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01/04/2001 10:53 AM ID: 2444 Permalink   

Confirmation the Pope Has Parkinsons Disease

 

A doctor who is a member of the Pope's medical team has admitted for the first time that he suffers from Parkinsons disease.

The disease causes trembling of the limbs and head and travels throughout the nervous system. There is no known cure.

There is now renewed speculation that he could be the first Pope in 700 years to retire, but the Vatican deny this saying it will only occur if he becomes too ill to continue his duties.

 
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  strange  
 
why does he get this disease? does god not like him any more?
and does it mean he's going to die soon. and is there someone even more catholic to become the new pope.
and the word toooooo
is spelled too when its meaning is "very, more, also, certainly" or is used to make something sound more important. eg "It's (all) too much (=more than I can deal with)" or "I'd be only too (=extremely) pleased." or "It's too bad that you can't come..." or "We wouldn't be too surprised if..." or"I'm not going to school today." "You are too!".
and ill never believe ever what you admin say about orthography.
but, yes, there are no examples for the also "too".
;-)
have fun...
maud
 
  by: Ludmila     01/04/2001 11:14 AM     
  and again  
 
it's the Pope's medical team with apostrophe, because it's "genitiv" and singular. as theres only one Pope there always must be an apostrophe when you add an s. only with plural s theres no apostrophe between word and s.
 
  by: Ludmila     01/04/2001 11:17 AM     
  Genative  
 
With words ending in an s, the apostrophe comes after, or adds both the apostrophe and the s.

Example: The trees' leaves, or The girls's shoes are both correct.

And about the Pope: He is a man who has done a lot that is good in the world. Despite what you might or might not believe about the Catholic religion, to make fun of such a disease is only catty.
 
  by: SandraG     01/04/2001 11:25 AM     
  GENITIVE  
 
in English. and ive written my "genitiv" in "" because I know that cameron doesnt have any ideas about English grammar and its terms (or just little), but hope he know a little about German grammar.

If you think the Pope is great that is fine. My opinion is different. (if im allowed to. if im not, i wont tell anyone, that would certainly make my opinion better and more harmless).
And it doesn't matter how catty I am, as Ill go to hell anyway. (According to the Pope. I dont think that's a nice perspective either, cause I understand myself as Christian person. Although I don't believe in heaven and hell. My god tends to love everyone. Even the Pope.)

Neither tree nor girl end in s. The plural is. That's not what Ive been talking about. Or maybe you mean something completely different. And I dont understand it. I just thought a genitive singular is word+ 's, plural is word+s and genitive plural is word+s+'.
I've tried to explain just what i thought i had to because it gets more confusing the more one explains.
but cheers. i know that im not a native speaker and actually have no idea. maybe youve made it a bit clearer.
maud
 
  by: Ludmila     01/04/2001 11:57 AM     
  erm...  
 
My point about the pope is simply that I don't think he should be mocked for having a terrible disease, no matter what you think of the church he belongs to.

About the possessive, it doesn't matter if a word is singular or plural or otherwise, only if it ends in 's' or not. Though re-reading, maybe you meant that the only time the word 'popes' should be written is if you are talking about more than one pope, which is, as far as I can tell, true.
 
  by: SandraG     01/04/2001 12:08 PM     
  okay okay  
 
i feel sorry for everyone who's got horrible diseases, no matter what disease and who it is.
this is actually a lie, cause i cant, as there are too many sick and ill people.
but anyway, i dont see, why i should feel particularly sorry for someone whos had a certain disease quite obviously for quite a while and has tried to deny it, and has tried to still do a job that's difficult and not really THE post for someone who's got parkinsons disease. i think it's absolutely not responsible or reasonable or take a word thats appropriate to have someone in this condition on this post. and i also think it's very very very horrible and not quite honest to be silent about it just because someone's got certain interests like keeping their power.
and apart from that i still cant stand the Pope who represents the stubbornness of the Catholic church. Luckily lots of members of the Catholic church are able to think a bit further than he can. But I doubt anyone could think properly while suffering from parkinsons disease.
and again. this is just my personal opinion. and if you want it to, i'll repeat again and again and again that i dont like the Pope. and if you wanna know more, Im glad that he's so much closer to God than the rest of us - this is the only reason why he's never wrong. so nothing bad can happen, no matter how capable of his job he is right now.
And that he's better than me is not my very own idea. Go to the Dome or any Catholic service on a Sunday, when you want to learn, that youre just a nothing with lots of sins whereas the Pope is just as perfect as it can get.
 
  by: Ludmila     01/04/2001 01:58 PM     
  @ Ludmila  
 
Just a little question..... who was it scared you so much about the Catholic Church - its not all bad you know. It just seems to me that its never really come to grips with the modern world here in Europe like it has in my place. But hey....they still have trouble cause they remember Germany was where that trouble maker Luther came from wasn't it.....
 
  by: cameron     01/04/2001 04:40 PM     
  @cameron  
 
well, ive never been against the Catholic church like having a silly and reasonless prejudice... and when people were complaining about Catholic church I couldn't really agree, because I didn't know what it was they disliked so much.
Ive gone through a Catholic (upper Bavarian) "Kindergarten St. Augustinus" (I think, if it wasn' t him it was some St) and quite a Catholic school and i havent had any bad experiences with it.

And then I heard this horrible liturgy (right word???) which i didnt like. Cause the Pope (in my point of view) is just as human and therefore sometimes wrong as you and me (although I know that youre right, most of the time). Okay, this pissed me off. i still believe all humans are equal (at least in the respect how right or wrong they are and how much theyre love by a god).

The next thing I didnt like is the Catholic idea of spending money and increasing the chance to go to heaven this way (and who hasnt got money can stay away from cigarettes and alcohol for a day). The instructions how to do it were in the year 2000 on the door of the st emmerams church in regensburg.
I have to be responsible for what i do and i have to handle my mistake. No money in the world makes my mistakes better. Theyre mistakes and i have to live with it. But maybe its great, cause buying yourself a sinless life certainly is easier than living a responsible one. And i dont have to pay the one i call god to make my life good.

and there was a 3rd one i just forgot. oh, yes, it's these events in the vatican with thousands of people on the square. religion is something very personal to me. and im scared of mass hysteria things. they might cause an interesting feeling. but thats it.

if i say this and that about Catholicism i dont wanna offend anyone. I know that my "religion" is not better, and i know, that my church has lots of ideas i dont like either.
i also know that many things just depend on a person... and no matter which religion therell always be people i like better and people i like less.

well, at the moment i wanna go back to my political book. but if you want more statements about catholicism, im up for it.

and can anyone tell me whats so wrong with luther (was he right, or why does the Catholic church have trouble with him), and why do you feel sorry for the Pope if he doesnt even feel sorry for himself (when he doesnt wanna be ill and just relax and be looked after but still do his job) and what are the really good things Catholicism (compared to other sects like my protestantism) has done to the world in recent years (not that i could come up with (m)any examples for my church). but Sandra seems to know quite a few catholic ones.
 
  by: Ludmila     01/04/2001 05:19 PM     
  Bah  
 
I won't debate religion, especially not here. My intention was never to say that any religion is the "right" one, or better than any other. Only that it is my opinion that it is inappropriate to mock someone's illnesses, because you believe differently than he.

If you are interested in some more information about the Pope, CNN did a article at http://www.cnn.com/... . Somehow, it doesn't seem to me to show a picture of a small-minded old man who is intent on sending people to hell.
 
  by: SandraG     01/05/2001 11:27 AM     
  Wow  
 
Now how did you find that article - I won't agree with everything but it puts it a little more in perspective. Maybe its not so bad to be Catholic.

But I still can't agree with his views on the ordination of women. Thats just plain silly. And as for abortion and birth control,I fully understand that he wants to foster a view of responsibility taking and morality, but it seems to me there is a kind of morality in decisions to use birth control as the world is out stripping its resources and ablity to deliver to all those there. We don't really need many more people.

But hey - this discussion was good thanks.
 
  by: newsmaker     01/05/2001 11:45 AM     
  aha  
 
if you get your opinion about the Pope by ONE single article that's fine. although I dont understand why you think the article is so positive.

I think journalism is great, always tells the truth and this article shows that the Pope is THE man of the 20th century. Im going to believe this now. because when i hit the print button it will be printed and what printed is true.
I think the pope deserves something different than my opinion which is based on little knowledge and a few personal experiences and more than your link.

Fine that you really read my comment.
you would have noticed, if youd follow the news every now and then just a bit, that when im talking about the vatican's opinion about other christian communities i refer to a publication which is more recent than your article.

then I still dont see, why someone whos got such a horrible disease should be in such an important decision.

i have discussed what i think about catholicism and you refuse to (for some reason i dont know). theres no better example for bad discussions and a very bad argumentation.
even being insulting and personally offending is less cowardish (from a linguistic point of view).

Sandra Im very unhappy that you start a discussion and then run away trying to make it look good by just relying on ONE article.

Im not going to agree that the pope is" who has done a lot that is good in the world" (although i know he has) unless you tell me why... the time when my mum could tell me things without explaining the reasons why is over. and its been over for a long time.

have a nice weekend everyone.

(and @cameron: do you think the abortion and contraception thing is so important - people really should decide that for themselves... i think theres no help for people how allow someone - no matter who- to rule the most private things in their lives. )
 
  by: Ludmila     01/05/2001 05:12 PM     
  Hmm  
 
Ludmila, from what I have seen, your entire argument is based on putting words in someone else's mouth, then saying how wrong those words are are - both mine, and the Pope's. Or are you trying to imply that the Pope has personally told you that you are going to Hell? Your argumentation has been irrational, and off the topic. You want to start up a discussion about religion, I won't take part in that - to tell you how far off from the teachings of the Catholic Church your opinions are would do no good. The discussion I started was that I disapprove of your insulting the Pope over a disease. When you seemed ignorant of any good that the current Pope may have done, I referred you to an article by CNN - an unbiased hard news source - which is able to provide some background. Your response is to insult me personally, as well as to refuse to accept the validity of any source which doesn't back up your own shaky opinions. Yes, you are right, because it is written in the news doesn't mean it is right. But on the other hand, it also doesn't mean it is a lie.

If you want to consider me running away, because I refuse to let you provoke me into changing the subject with incendiary comments, so be it. This "discussion" is over for me.
 
  by: SandraG     01/08/2001 09:55 AM     
  I won't debate  
 
source: SandraG
 
  by: Ludmila     01/08/2001 10:00 AM     
  >...aha  
 
As someone who has quite a lot of experience as a 'Catholic' (altarboy for plently of years, knowing quite some priests, very religious family, etc.) and who is also quite interested in other religions, I can say that criticizing the pope in the way you did, is quite intolerant and far from being Christian.

I'm not very religious, but I still consider myself as being Catholic, though. I don't agree with great parts of the Catholic dogma, but if I would decide I can't live with their teachings anymore, I'm free to become an atheist or join a different religion. But it would not justify attacking others beliefs and insulting what they might consider holy. I can criticize consequences caused by religion (e.g. 'I disapprove forcing women to wear veils') but not their religion itself (e.g. 'the Koran sucks...').

So criticizing the pope's decisions is absolutely fine, since everyone should state his/her opinion, but attacking the pope personally is imho quite unnecessary and very bad style. Especially if you use a severe and tragic illness for it.

And, at last, a little hint: Discussions are much more productive and much less annoying if the participants agree on not insulting each other. That includes personal attacks and accusations.
 
  by: thalion   01/08/2001 10:20 AM     
  @ thalion  
 
ive written before that i know the Pope has done a lot good to the world. the rest is my opinion.

thank you.
 
  by: Ludmila     01/08/2001 10:46 AM     
  >..@thalion  
 
/Quote start
"why does he get this disease? does god not like him any more? and does it mean he's going to die soon. and is there someone even more catholic to become the new pope. "

"Although I don't believe in heaven and hell. My god tends to love everyone. Even the Pope."

"and apart from that i still cant stand the Pope who represents the stubbornness of the Catholic church. Luckily lots of members of the Catholic church are able to think a bit further than he can. "

"and if you want it to, i'll repeat again and again and again that i dont like the Pope. and if you wanna know more, Im glad that he's so much closer to God than the rest of us - this is the only reason why he's never wrong. so nothing bad can happen, no matter how capable of his job he is right now."
/Quote end

Of course it's your opinion. It would need a lot more to make it a fact. But if I would replace in your statements the word 'pope' with 'Ludmila', wouldn't you feel pissed and insulted? Well, I would for sure.

Criticize what he _does_, not what he _is_. If you don't like him personally, that's your choice. But don't insult others who might consider the pope as someone they honor and respect.

Quote start.
"I won't debate
source: SandraG

by Ludmila"
Quote end.

Oh my. Let's drop to the niveau of children. So I probably should write now:

"I won't listen to reason.
source: Ludmila"

But that would be pretty low, no?
 
  by: thalion   01/08/2001 11:05 AM     
  ok guys  
 
Very nice for you all to be taking part here - but plese cool it down a little. I don't want to have to end it.
 
  by: newsmaker     01/08/2001 11:12 AM     
  (-:  
 
But if I would replace in your statements the word
'pope' with 'Ludmila', wouldn't you feel pissed and insulted?

well, depends on he it comes from. certainly not when it comes from someone in the shortnews community who i personally dont know.
feel free to say what you think.
i do as well.
 
  by: Ludmila     01/08/2001 11:15 AM     
  who it comes from  
 
I wanted to say.

im perfectly calm by they way. and cool anyway!!! (this is MY personal opinion).

(-:
 
  by: Ludmila     01/08/2001 11:23 AM     
 
 
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