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01/10/2005 03:24 PM ID: 45527 Permalink   

Islamic Leader Calls On UK Muslims To Emigrate or Fight

 

The former leader of banned Islamic militant group Al Muhajiroun has called for UK Muslims to emigrate or fight because of the post-9/11 anti-terror legislation that has been introduced in the UK.

Sheikh Omar Bakir Muhammed wants to see British Muslims join in the Al Qaeda jihad, becoming suicide bombers if necessary. Anyone who chooses to neither fight or emigrate would no longer be seen a Muslim, he said.

The Sheikh also added that if Western troops were to withdraw from Muslim countries and the 'anti-Muslim' laws scrapped then jihad would be avoided and the UK could remain peaceful. He said that Muslims "love Britain".

 
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  The Mulsim Community...  
 
They don't need anymore bad bad media against them, otherwise the world is just going to come down upon them and were going to see stupid crazy suicide bombers in every country! This is what happens when you join the wrong religion...or SUICIDE CULT!!
 
 by: luc2010   01/10/2005 04:31 PM     
  but he's going to hell, according to the qu'ran  
 
According to the Qu'ran, any suicide bombers, or anyone that kills civilians for ANY reason, is not a muslim and is condemned to hell. No suicide bomber or terrorist or hostage-taker is muslim, they are, by Allah's word, evil.

Personally, I'm not a muslim and I think anyone blindly following a religous text is a fool, but if this guy is going to make up anti-islamic lies, he should read up on what is supposed to be his own religion.
 
 by: The_Paladin   01/10/2005 05:42 PM     
  and about "loving" britain  
 
I think very few British people, muslim or no, "love" Britain, given how badly most Brits treat the country and others (in comparison to say European countries), tho i think its more likely that muslim immigrants love the ridiculously high payment they get for doing nothing, rather than anything to do with the country itself.

Also, the laws since 9/11 aren't specifically anti-muslim, the laws are just anti-human rights. There's no direct attack on muslims, that'd just be racist nonesense.
 
 by: The_Paladin   01/10/2005 05:52 PM     
  How many...  
 
Qu'rans are there? Evidently a bunch. Every Muslum group seems to follow a different one.
 
 by: lurker     01/10/2005 07:41 PM     
  The Koran..  
 
Is no different than the bible. Its all in how you interpret it. If people were to follow the bible exactly as it says, They would be called Christian extremeists. The bible promotes all sorts of bad behaivor but the modern day "believers" say it no longer applies in this day and age. *shrugs shoulders
 
 by: knadidas25   01/10/2005 08:00 PM     
  @knadidas25  
 
Can you provide examples of the promotion of bad behaviour in the Bible? I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm unaware of their existance.
 
 by: Flashby     01/10/2005 08:03 PM     
  Oh boy...  
 
This is going to turn into one of them crazed forums with people spouting biblical quotes at each other, isn't it?

It's all a matter of interpretation- bible, koran, and even wacky stuff like Nostradums' predictions.

But, no 72 virgins for Bakir Muhammed waiting for him later on when he dies (hopefully sooner rather than later).
 
 by: theironboard     01/10/2005 08:16 PM     
  You are not reading either, it's obvious!  
 
It is fully evident that you folks making these comments have read neither the Bible nor the Qu'ran.

At least Muslims have the excuse of being generally illiterate because it's in the best interest of Islamic leaders to keep rank and file Muslims in the dark, and so more susceptible to dangerous superstitions such as receiving the attentions of 72 virgins if you die a martyr. Sadly, literacy is not much better among shortnews.com users, and many are nearly as superstitious as Muslims, Hindus, etc.
 
 by: Luhker     01/10/2005 09:13 PM     
  they're in the same mess we are  
 
looks like the jerry falwell of the islamic world. and people wonder why there's constant war. "you're not one of us because you don't hate our enemies enough" offering the youth up as sacrifices on the altar of war is the last thing western muslim groups should be advocating
 
 by: cellardweller1   01/10/2005 11:09 PM     
  Well...  
 
I've read the New Osama version of the Koran and it clearly says I can have lots of virgins if I blow myself into little bits and take some non muslim unbelievers with me. There again it is the readers digest version, one page.
 
 by: bag     01/10/2005 11:10 PM     
  Yeah,  
 
Christians have their share of insane sects:

http://rawstory.rawprint.com/
 
 by: lurker     01/10/2005 11:31 PM     
  All Muslims please fight  
 
come on...give it to us. lol
That would be cool to be rid of all with this war. Even if it goes on for years..better now than later.
 
 by: TOBYKIETH     01/10/2005 11:32 PM     
  @lurk - @toby  
 
@lurker
Last time I checked there was only ONE version of the Quran which all Muslims follow and it's still the same even now and will remain so till the end of time.

The bible on the hand is constantly edited and re-published every year so that Christians can cater for new cult followers and homosexuals alike. They contend that people change, therefore the rules should change. I guess none of you Christians on here actually read your bibles, I say practice before you preach.

knadidas25 makes a great point, when it comes to the teachings of Christianity, it's always "yes, but that was before (in the old testament), we are more civilised these days...". LOL!


@tobykeith

your quote:
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come on...give it to us. lol
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Remember what happened last time the chimp said that? lol ok maybe not.

I think you'll find the Iraqis have already brought it on and you won't know how many GIs actually died, until some of the others get back. I wish people like you would go and fight though, go on show them what a neocon nutter is made of! LMAO!



 
 by: Jimbob-Jones   01/11/2005 01:19 AM     
  Really?  
 
Sorry, but the Koran states, explicity, that Mohammed said that to bring the Day of Resurrection, the Muslims (not Allah, but his followers) would have to kill Jews. And that if a Jew tried to hide behind a rock or tree, that rock or tree would call out "oh Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!"

Yeah...anyone who kills isn't a Muslim. Right. As for Christianity, nowhere does the Bible tell Christians to go and kill people in order to get something from God. Most religions, aside from Islam, state that their deity will deal with unbelievers in the future, or karma, or whatever. In Islam, the Muslims will do the killing, personally.
 
 by: Visitor2   01/11/2005 09:07 PM     
  I have done my service pal.  
 
I am too old to battle those nut jobs over there. I need to enjoy all the benefits that they are giving us.
 
 by: TOBYKIETH     01/11/2005 09:10 PM     
  Well at least get your facts right  
 
@Visitor2

Your Quote:
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Sorry, but the Koran states, explicity, that Mohammed said that to bring the Day of Resurrection, the Muslims (not Allah, but his followers) would have to kill Jews.
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Don't be an a$$, nobody "brings" or decides when the day of judgement will be, not even Muslims. Allah (God) alone knows exactly when that day will be, no event, person or anything could change that. Muslims believe this life is just a test for each individual for the life after death. A day will come when the whole universe will be destroyed and the dead will be resurrected for judgement by God, this will be the day of judgement. In the same way we all have fixed life spans given by God, nobody will get extra time or time extended for a particular reason, when that date and time arrives you will die, not even the finest doctors in the world could save you, even if you happen to be very rich. I am not sure about what you are describing, perhaps you can direct me to a valid source?

Islam does NOT teach to kill either, but it offers the right to self defence. I think you are having difficulty understanding like some of the others here. Maybe next time try backing up your opinions with some established sources.

Christianity killed AT LEAST 16,000 Muslims (actual death toll exceeds 100,000), How come conservatives in America mention the religion of every suspected terrorist from the Middle East to further bash Islam... yet they never mention the religion of every American war criminal in Iraq or Israeli war criminal? Between 80,000 to 100,000 Iraqi Muslims have been killed under Christian American and British occupation, yet you still hear the same ole neocon whining about "Muslims being taught to kill", you're pathetic at best.


@Toby
No please show the liberals how to fight, would it be too much to ask you to go on the battle field and "defend" your country like a "real american hero", because all I ever see you doing is this:

http://www.funpic.hu/
(Yes that's right, cheerleading from the sidelines like the chimp, quite an embarrassment you are.)
 
 by: Jimbob-jones   01/12/2005 12:02 AM     
  @Jimbob-jones  
 
That was an interesting interpretation of Islam and while I agree with much of it I think Muslims can be misleading in their definition of 'self-defence'. Common sense would say that the term 'self-defence' would apply to an individual who comes under specific physical attack. Unfortunately its now being read as pertaining to the whole faith and the 'attack' can be one of a non-physical nature (economic, social, political, etc) on the faith generally, ie. if one Muslim is attacked the rest have the right to kill out of self-defence of the faith. That is a good example of how Islam seems to have become a religion obsessed by a feeling of victimisation and sanctioned violence (strange, since Islam is apparently peaceful). Would you not agree?
 
 by: Flashby     01/12/2005 01:38 PM     
 
 
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