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01/14/2005 03:08 AM ID: 45596 Permalink   

Replanting Seed Seen as Technology Piracy: Farmer Sued

 

Genetic Modification giant Monsanto is suing Missouri farmer Homan McFarling for technology piracy because he replanted seeds from a harvest. Monsanto says that its pact with farmers prohibits them from reusing the company's technology.

Farmers, on the other hand, have been replanting seeds for ages. McFarling says: "My daddy saved seed. I saved seed." He grows soy on a 5,000 acre farm. A year ago, Tennessee farmer Kem Ralph was sentenced to 8 months prison for a similar action.

Monsanto says it gets 500 "tips" a year involving farmers who replant the company's products. The company says most farmers settle before being taken to court. Private investigators have been dispatched to small towns to find violators.

 
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  If its Genetically engineered then makeit seedless  
 
I mean, DUH.
 
 by: ericcode   01/14/2005 03:34 AM     
  Give it up, Monsanto; it's a lost cause!  
 
There's not enough criminal complaint logs, prosecutor time, courtroom facilities, or sympathetic jury sentiment for your consolation!
 
 by: Luhker     01/14/2005 04:10 AM     
  anything  
 
to make a lot of money at the expense of others.
 
 by: emp3r0r     01/14/2005 05:03 AM     
  They are going after farmers who didn't buy...  
 
They are going after farmers who didn't buy the seeds as well, if you replant your own seeds, but happen to contain stray seeds blown over from farms adjacent, they are still seeing as doing something illegal. Messed up, yes, but its being happening for years.
 
 by: Trent Steel   01/14/2005 08:02 AM     
  as if....  
 
Poor farmers. As if they weren't already having problems with stating in business.... some corporate scientist needs to show up calling them pirates.

Argh! Plow them rows, Matey!
 
 by: theironboard     01/14/2005 09:53 AM     
  @ ericcode @Trent Steel  
 
The seeds are what they are harvesting. Soybeans without seeds would be like pea pods without peas. There isn’t much of a market for soybean husks.

@Trent Steel
Soybeans are round and hard, a little smaller than a pea and don’t blow far in the wind.

I still believe that if you bought the seed in the first place, anything you harvest from that purchase should be yours to do whatever you choose to with it. After all, Monsanto can’t tell you who you can and can’t sell your harvest too.

Am I the only one on this channel that grew up on a farm?
 
 by: valkyrie123     01/14/2005 02:58 PM     
  lol  
 
I didn't grow up on one, but I grew up in a farming community, went to school with farm kids, so I know exactly what you're talking about
 
 by: sjava     01/14/2005 03:07 PM     
  I think...  
 
that trentsteel wasn't referring specifically to soybeans. What happens if a bird consumes some and the poops seeds elsewhere?

But, that aside. My family had a couple of acres gowing up. Not a farm, but still a lot of hard work.

Once they buy the seeds I say they should just shoot the scientists for trespassing on their land.

It's a ridiculous greedy thing to go after farmers.
 
 by: theironboard     01/14/2005 03:13 PM     
  I think...  
 
that trentsteel wasn't referring specifically to soybeans. What happens if a bird consumes some and the poops seeds elsewhere?

But, that aside. My family had a couple of acres gowing up. Not a farm, but still a lot of hard work.

Once they buy the seeds I say they should just shoot the scientists for trespassing on their land.

It's a ridiculous greedy thing to go after farmers.
 
 by: theironboard     01/14/2005 03:22 PM     
  I grew up on a farm too  
 
My dad grew grain for years. We never had to buy seed because we used grain from the previous year's harvest. We cleaned it, treated it, and sowed it that way, year after year. We sold seed grain as well as feed. No one ever told us we couldn't do it because famers have been doing it exactly this way for centuries.
Any court that would have held up Monsanto's argument was obviously judged by someone who never set foot on a farm, yet that's exactly what happened. When farmers can be sued successfully by a company for having their genetically engineered grain grow on their land accidentally by an act of nature, it's time for farmers to band together and unionize, as they have in other countries.
Maybe a year's strike or so would smarten up some of the judges and courts when they see people in cities who formerly never cared about farmer's rights rioting over food in such a country as the USA.
Then again, didn't that happen back in the 30's?
 
 by: DustyRider   01/14/2005 05:51 PM     
  I grew up near farmers, so ...  
 
I'm with them against Monsanto, the real thief in this scenario!
You scored 'ringers', val & DR!
<inside joke>
 
 by: Luhker     01/14/2005 10:50 PM     
  @valkyrie123  
 
Your right on that one. But you could still put in a faulty gene to make the seeds sterile. The seed would still be there but not root. But then they would have to give live plants to the farmers and not seeds.
I forgot what they harvested on a soy plant.

But what about Cloning? Would that be seen as piracy? Or Cross-breeds?
 
 by: ericcode   01/15/2005 12:21 AM     
  No farm  
 
I never grew up on a farm not that that should be a prerequisite to having an opinion. I can certainly say I have met a lot of farmers and I have yet to meet a lazy one. Farming is a damn difficult tough job and I cannot for the life of me understand why people to choose to do it. But these corporate bastards are just being ridiculous. They are suing their own customers and alienating the farming community. The very community they are profiting from. I do hope that word gets around what kind of bastards they are and that farmers across the nation boycott their products.
 
 by: ZCT     01/16/2005 07:19 AM     
  so we are putting patents on life now?  
 
Things are out of control when companys get away with shit such as this.
 
 by: knadidas25   01/16/2005 09:43 AM     
  monsanto  
 
is the same company thats been manipulating the FDA for years to keep approval for some of its most controversial chemical additives - notably aspartame, which decomposes into formaldehyde in your brain (i think thats the right one) - its a food additive.
 
 by: lauriesman     01/18/2005 03:14 PM     
  knadidas25  
 
patents on life yep it's been done ... a bacteria that eats oilspills .
Of course when they allowed this they opened the doors to all sorts of things without public debate on any of the issues .....


The documentary The Corporation has interviews with Businessmen and Corp CEO's who say in the future everything will be owned by someone (usually them ) including space , the human genome , the genomes of animals ...etc

Out of Control is quite an understatment this is crazy and should be illegal

oh Monsanto are the people who make that crap that gets into American Milk ..remember the Fox reporters thet were fired for reporting this after Monsanto threatened to pull advertising dollars out of Fox Corp if they ran the story (which they re-wrote 83 time )

Monsanto came up with a product to increase milk production despite the massive surplus of milk on the Panet ( In Ireland they pay farmers not to produce the stuff) This was found to be really doggy stuff that gets into humans not sure if it's still being used in the US ...probably ..anyone got an update on that
 
 by: rory182     01/24/2005 04:32 PM     
  WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ...REALLY  
 
Not sure if it will work but I suggested a Monsato
Boycott to www.karmabanque.com you can support
it if you want and see if it works... just an idea
 
 by: rory182     01/24/2005 05:27 PM     
 
 
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