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Kidnapped American Pleads For Life

 

A video has surfaced of an American kidnapped in Baghdad last November in which he calls for Arab leaders to help spare his life.

The video shows Roy Hallums, 56 with a rifle aimed at his head pleading for his life. He states his name and the fact that he works for the security forces.

His pleas include a call for help from Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi and he adds “I’m not asking for any help from President Bush because I know of his selfishness and unconcern for those who’ve been pushed into this hellhole”.

 
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  oh shit not again  
 
this sort of stuff is really sickining .Not nice to see , imagine or even report on .I hope this guy is saved by some miracle and doesn't just end up as another forgotten victim of this conflict.
 
 by: rory182     01/25/2005 06:12 PM     
  not to sound insensitive  
 
but why the hell would an american be doing there. Hell I know not to go for work or vacation. Its just a risk that he deciced to take...
 
 by: doobie   01/25/2005 06:32 PM     
  Why has it taken so long to come out? n/t  
 
 
 by: bag     01/25/2005 06:51 PM     
  Pushed into this hell hole?  
 
The probably goes to the people who live there too.
 
 by: xellos_m   01/25/2005 07:52 PM     
  so let me get this straight  
 
this asshole is a civilian, in Iraq.. WTF is he doing there in the first place? Ah, that's right, he's following the money.. lots of money to be made by US civilians there helping rebuild, etc.. sucks for him that he got caught, but if he hadn't been a greedy bastard in the first place, never woulda happened, now would it? This coward has the gall to berate Bush for those who have been "pushed into this hellhole".. yeah, I'm sure there was a lot of pushing to get this prick in there...
 
 by: sjava     01/25/2005 08:39 PM     
  Balance your opinions!  
 
Remember that Japanese guy last summer who was kidnapped in Iraq. He was there 'on vacation'. His government's attitude was a big shoulder-shrug. Appropriate, I thought.

Same here? Not really. This guy might have been unemployed, in debt, and in dire-straits before coming to Iraq (now he is in real dire-straits) so he took a job making a few hundred bucks a day to do whatever. Lots of people are taking risks to improve their own lives-- selfish, perhaps, but he still needs help to save his life. Are kidnapped Turkish truck-drivers delivering water to Iraq worthy of the same disrespect shown by forum-posters here? They are only doing their job, too... for profit.

And remember, when someone sticks a rifle into your temple, you'll probably say what they want you to say. This could be some sorta reverse kinda psy-corps method the insurgents are employing.
 
 by: tin_robot   01/25/2005 08:51 PM     
  lol  
 
a few hundred bucks a day?? She-it, these guys are making way more than that
 
 by: sjava     01/25/2005 09:28 PM     
  It's the money that gets them interested...  
 
plus they are told that if they stay with their bodyguards they will be OK. So they think it is easy money. Slightly higher risk but it'll be OK.

I would be doing the same if I thought it would save my life.
 
 by: bag     01/25/2005 09:59 PM     
  C'mon....  
 
Do you guys really believe he would curse out Bush rather than ask him for help? It's obvious that there is a good chance his captors are telling him what to say for their own reasons. A little demoralization for the U.S., maybe? Who knows, but I wouldn't jump the gun thinking that this guy is the one prompting a plea to Gaddafi.
 
 by: Visitor2   01/25/2005 10:21 PM     
  Insensitive bastards  
 
How could you sit there and criticise this guy? Has your anti-Americanism become so extreme that you'd justify the acts of these bloodthirsty monsters?

It sickens me just to read comments blaming this guy.

It sickens me how blind people have become.

It sickens me to see a society so blinded by their quest for liberalism that they chose terrorists, mass murderers and fanatics over civilians.

You make me sick.
 
 by: tempest     01/25/2005 10:58 PM     
  wow  
 
it amazes me how many of you comment on this without reading the artcile.

The guy there worked for American forces and catered to the Iraqi Army. HES NOT A CIVILIAN...
 
 by: ddrz2k3   01/25/2005 11:26 PM     
  what??  
 
He works for a Saudi company that does catering (=food!) for the Iraqi army.

1-That hardly makes him a military person.
2-Even if he were, this abuse is still not one bit justified.
 
 by: tempest     01/25/2005 11:44 PM     
  well  
 
catering also means providing services to.. I doub't some guy would travel across an ocean to supply food to a foreign army. Even if it were true he'd still be affiliated with the Iraqi army, and therefore the American army which is allied with it. I'm just trying to say that he's not just some random civilian being held for hostage.

That being said.. i don't think the kidnapping is right either.. but it's playing by our (America's) own rules..
Ex: those who were found/thought to have catered to Al-Qaeda are now jailed or in Guantanamo Bay (kinda of like being kidnapped)
 
 by: ddrz2k3   01/26/2005 01:30 AM     
  @ddr Are you even listening to your bull****??  
 
Capturing prisoners of war and questioning them is the same as humiliating a man in his last hours, decapitating him, taping it, and showing it to the world?

If that's your rationale, then I really have no argument left.
 
 by: tempest     01/26/2005 01:41 AM     
  Its a Gun to His head, he can say what he wants  
 
Who the hell are we to judge? Especially with free speech. I mean really, if this is factual, its his brain about to be splattered, they may be his last words and some have a problem with what he says?!?!

This is an important saying "I don't agree with what you said but I will fight to the death for your right to say it."
 
 by: ericcode   01/26/2005 03:05 AM     
  Catering to der enemy!  
 
Die American kaffir!


... is what they would say, they being the terrorist fanatics.

LOL -- LITERALLY NOW: "Catering to the enemy" LOL LOLO.


I love Americans. I love America.

That's why I want to be rid of a bad case of the Bushes, and a war we are needlessly invested in a land on the other side of the Earth of who's only possible harm could have been directed at... Israel.

Israel the ally...

And of what essence is it that Israel IS an ally, uhm?

None whatsoever, we are there to defend what amount to racist zionist colonialist interests in the middle-east; and for our own oily purposes.

Slippery as a fish, and twice as stupid, is our president with the chip on his shoulder -- and vendetta in his chimp mind "because, after all, he tried to kill my dad..."

And this is sufficient justification for the endeavor?

Oiy. Bush, the zionists, the oil magnates, the American Christian religious fundamentalists, et al can all keep each other.

May they find their [abortion-clinic bombing, racist] path parallel other such greats as the Islamists and the Taliban.

Of which they funded and armed trying to defeat "godless" Communism umpteen years ago.

Of which FDR, way back when, nutured and fought WWII to save. In Russia, and China. It wasn't an accident, and Hitler -- the last man commonly recognized to be so, was truly a patsy in this regard.

Remember, he didn't want the U.S. in the war, he knew he couldn't match our production capabilities. FDR had to force the Japanese to attack us by cutting off their oil supply lines in the Dutch East Indies.

What would we have lost?

Austrailia, perhaps.

I love Austrailia, but if the Japanese REALLY wanted it, and England was a bit too busy defending the mother country...

So goes the way of all nations in time and history. Perhaps they would have given it relative autonomy; a virtual Hong Kong as it was to China for so long, only, Austrailia, and to Japan.

Whatifs and couldbes; pity.

Instead we quashed a Hitler which primarily wanted to annex EASTERN Europe (rotten edifice, conquer Communism) and contained the Japanese soas to save Mao's forces from their wrath.

FDR refered to Stalin as "Uncle Joe."

He loved Communists, and Communism, and tried his best to implement every plank of the Communist Party platform here in the U.S.

He believed in Hitler's methods, too. "Ownership is unessential" Hitler said; merely Regulate without the burden of the idea; so goes FASCISM.

3000 years of liberal philosophy quashed right back down to then later-day Roman tyranny. Regulation; the disregard for property rights or ownership... Fascism.

So went Hitler. The Communists were obsessed with ownership. They never made a practicable system beyond that. It had no basis in reality outside of what Fascism offered as a half-meassure.

So FDR brought Fascism to our shores; to prevent it's spread overseas.

And he snuggled up to Communists and sought their aims through this Fascism.

Anyway, I hope the poor sniveling coward makes it out alive. His pokes at Bush are humorous.

Death to all fundamentalists; Christian, Muslim, and Jew alike. All others from lesser-notables: That goes for you too.

And no virgins. Just bloody, dark death.
 
 by: verboten   01/26/2005 05:20 AM     
  Excuse me!  
 
Has anyone read reports of outrage concerning this prisoner by Amnesty International, the International Red Cross, the United Nations, the French newspapers or any anti-war group demanding an investigation concerning his treatment?

Oh?
 
 by: firstsgtmike   01/26/2005 12:35 PM     
  @firstmike  
 
Good point ...
to which I'd like to add that a lot of people fail to remember the conditions that some American soldiers were forced to make statements concerning crimes during the Vietnam War ... they were treated with considerable hostility when they got back home for signing declarations about American slaughters in the region when in fact their signatures were lifted from paper they had signed their names on so that the Red Cross could communicate their capture to their families....

My point is this ...ignore everything he says about Bush or whatever he has a gun to his head ...Jesus if someone put a gun to me like that I'll say whatever you want me to hear ...

I'm not sure if this guy is Military , CIA or what but I do know (from a few books you read sitting around airports and waiting rooms) that if you are captured by the enemy the last thing you should do is all that Hollywood "you won't get anything out of me PIGS" bull because that will get you killed instantly ...you have to play the confusion card and act like you don't have a clue as to what's going on or why you're there etc ... you buy time for your own people .....(If it's a military thing they'll have to call of all operations you know about because sooner or later you are going to talk)

So don’t blame the guy for having a go at Bush or anyone else for that matter he’s now a mouthpiece for those holding him.



 
 by: rory182     01/26/2005 02:39 PM     
  @verboten  
 
does that mean death to ALL fundamentalists? Religious? Political? Like fundamentalist Libertarians?
 
 by: sjava     01/26/2005 02:51 PM     
  He Deserves it...  
 
We keep telling people to stop going over there because they will be targeted... they go over get kidnapped and then beg for their life...

maybe he should have listened.... good riddence
 
 by: Rarely_Useful     01/26/2005 07:50 PM     
  @rarely_useful  
 
your nickname is a good assessment of your comments...
 
 by: tempest     01/26/2005 07:55 PM     
  @rarely_useful  
 
He obviously went over there a long time ago... and I doubt you would feel the same way if it was your ass with a gun in your face, pleading for your life. Grow up, and try to see things from other people's perpectives.
 
 by: fredfredrickson   01/26/2005 08:04 PM     
  Rarely_Useful  
 
I agreed with you ...

@ tempest & fredfredrickson.
LOL I just loved it when I read your " insensitive bastards " comment . :)
Yes, the American hostage is a victim of a situation beyond his control ...
But let me ask you this... What about the thousands of dead Iraquis victims resulted from this Bush pre-emptived war ??
At least this American hostage had the choice to be in Iraq or not , you cant say the same for those dead Iraquis victims.
 
 by: Vyresh   01/27/2005 07:07 AM     
  @rarely_useful & Vyresh  
 
So the guy deserves it because he chose to be there to try to help the army (who themselves have no choice in being there)? I hope you are given the same consideration that you give others.
 
 by: opinionated   01/29/2005 08:33 PM     
  @Vyresh  
 
I suppose you don't want any journalists out there either ??
 
 by: rory182     02/01/2005 05:06 PM     
 
 
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