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02/03/2006 06:38 AM ID: 52657 Permalink   

Cheerleader Fired For Being Hooters Girl

 

Johnson City, TN - A student at East Tennessee State University has claimed she was kicked off the college cheerleading squad because she had a job at Hooters restaurant.

The 18 year old freshman said that she was removed from the team with no prior warning and the coach told her that being a Hooters waitress was unacceptable and violated the university athletic code. The college has declined comment on the case.

In an interview the teen stated that her cheerleader uniform was more revealing than her Hooters uniform. She also said that if it was acceptable for the boys basketball team to eat there, she should be allowed to work there.

 
  Source: tennessean.com  
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  bah  
 
[insert beeb]ing morons...
 
  by: Emp3r0r     02/03/2006 07:01 AM     
  If  
 
If this article is true then this bitch coach needs to be fired right away. There is no reason to kick someone off a team for doing a perfectly legal activity. The Hooters outfit is actually less revealing than a typical cheerleading outfit. So this is just a pile of steaming crap.

Bring on the lawsuit.
 
  by: ZCT     02/03/2006 07:04 AM     
  But how else...  
 
Would these people be able to protect everyone from the reality of the world?
 
  by: splicer   02/03/2006 07:50 AM     
  yea  
 
I went to school at ETSU for 2 semesters. Very conservative bible belt area... ...that being said this is ludicrous. As ZCT said, the cheerleader outfit is more revealing than the hooters outfit. How dare that girl assusme some financial responsibility and actually get a job while she is in school! The coach wont get fired, the girl wont get reinstated, and it will just go away.
 
  by: twisted_mister   02/03/2006 12:53 PM     
  That so wrong  
 
Why pick on the girl just because she has a job?
 
  by: CrisW   02/03/2006 02:03 PM     
  Isnt being a cheerleader the same as  
 
working at hooters except without the crap food?
 
  by: Lobdaddy   02/03/2006 02:29 PM     
  BUT HOW DID SHE TASTE?  
 
Sorry, just had to. It is a restaurant after all.
 
  by: Valkyrie123     02/03/2006 04:03 PM     
  Way to lower the tone Valkyrie123 :) n/t  
 
n/t
 
  by: CrisW   02/03/2006 04:17 PM     
  little hottie needs a spanking..  
 
ok well maybe that was too much but;

this may be a bit too much to but what the hell I have tons of shit to do but am so tired and bored of work so I will take the liberty of disecting this story in typical ZCT response fashion. (only to the people involved in the story not real ones reading, i know im loosing it)

Sams said that she knew some people would find the Hooters uniform — a tight-fitting white top and small orange shorts — revealing.

-NO SHIT, YOU ARE REALLY GETTIN IT! IM JUST ASS UMING YOU GOT THE JOB THERE BECAUSE OF THAT VERY REASON YOU'RE YOUNG HOT AND DIRRTTTYY AND WANT TIPS FROM MUCH OLDER DIRTIER (NOT IN A GOOD WAY, DIVORCED HOMOPHOBIC MEN)

-BTW HOOTERS WINGS I THOUGHT USED TO BE GREAT, IN WHORELANDO, FL. LAST WEEK I GOT 5 FOR 6 BUCKS AND THEY SUUUCKKKKEDD... AND THE WORKERS LOOKED LIKE INFECTED EX STRIPPERS. (NOT ALWAYS THOUGH YA YA)

"But so is my cheerleading skirt. I feel more embarrassed to wear my skirt sometimes at the games than I do walking around in my uniform," she said. "We wear pantyhose (at Hooters). We don't underneath my cheerleading skirt."

-TELL US HOW YA REALLY FEEL SWEATHEART, THESE CHANGE OF HEARTS AFTER THE FACT GET FUN EH?

Mike McNeil, vice president of marketing for Hooters, said he wasn't familiar with the situation, but supported Sams' protest of her dismissal.

-UHHH NO SHIT ASS, IT'S CALL FREE ADVERTISING!

EVEN THOUGH IM BEING A DICK, its fun she'll make it and they really have no reason to off her for that, but theres always alllways alterior motive kids. youd think she could get a better one though.. perhaphs she was bangin her hubby.
 
  by: OptIcalIllusIoN   02/03/2006 08:11 PM     
  @Topic  
 
Aye Carumba - Bartholomew Simpson
 
  by: Mr-Anderson   02/04/2006 01:44 AM     
  @OptIcalIllusIoN  
 
“little hottie needs a spanking.. ok well maybe that was too much but;”

- Yeah you could say that. But really if you are going to make a post in which you don’t wish to sound like a drunk misogynist this is probably not a great opener.

”this may be a bit too much to but what the hell I have tons of shit to do but am so tired and bored of work so I will take the liberty of disecting this story in typical ZCT response fashion. (only to the people involved in the story not real ones reading, i know im loosing it)”

- You have a way to go yet.

”Sams said that she knew some people would find the Hooters uniform — a tight-fitting white top and small orange shorts — revealing.”

- The Hooters girls wear pantyhose that cover their legs and you cannot see anything more than typical college girls wear when going out for a night out. But in any case, what of it?

”-NO SHIT, YOU ARE REALLY GETTIN IT! IM JUST ASS UMING YOU GOT THE JOB THERE BECAUSE OF THAT VERY REASON YOU'RE YOUNG HOT AND DIRRTTTYY AND WANT TIPS FROM MUCH OLDER DIRTIER (NOT IN A GOOD WAY, DIVORCED HOMOPHOBIC MEN)”

- On the one hand you can argue that Hooters should be closed down. After all if I opened a restaurant called Jockers and only hired good looking white men I would have multiple lawsuits on my hands. But then America is a land of inherent sexism, so I guess that’s why Hooters is still open.

Whatever your comments regarding the fundamental business model of Hooters, who are you to judge this girl as “DIRRTTTYY” simply because she works at Hooters?

”BTW HOOTERS WINGS I THOUGHT USED TO BE GREAT, IN WHORELANDO, FL. LAST WEEK I GOT 5 FOR 6 BUCKS AND THEY SUUUCKKKKEDD... AND THE WORKERS LOOKED LIKE INFECTED EX STRIPPERS. (NOT ALWAYS THOUGH YA YA)”

- So do you think that a waitress working at Hooters has the power to change this? This is like blaming the old greeter at Wal-mart because they decimate the community by destroying multiple small businesses and creating a virtual monopoly in the area.

"But so is my cheerleading skirt. I feel more embarrassed to wear my skirt sometimes at the games than I do walking around in my uniform," she said. "We wear pantyhose (at Hooters). We don't underneath my cheerleading skirt. -TELL US HOW YA REALLY FEEL SWEATHEART, THESE CHANGE OF HEARTS AFTER THE FACT GET FUN EH?”

- Yep, both cheerleading and working at Hooters is a part of a culture that has no problem objectifying women. What are you trying to justify here? You appear to be making derogatory comments about her simply because the best paying job she could find was working in a sexist restaurant, and her hobby was being a cheerleader, inspired by the sexist culture.

”Mike McNeil, vice president of marketing for Hooters, said he wasn't familiar with the situation, but supported Sams' protest of her dismissal.-UHHH NO SHIT ASS, IT'S CALL FREE ADVERTISING!”

- Yes how dare he support his employees.

”EVEN THOUGH IM BEING A DICK,”

- Why are you being a dick?

“its fun she'll make it and they really have no reason to off her for that, but theres always alllways alterior motive kids. youd think she could get a better one though.. perhaphs she was bangin her hubby.”

- I don’t get people like you. But I can only assume from your sodomizing of the English language in your post that you have little or no education. As such sexism, racism, and ignorance go hand in hand, so it is little wonder that your post is just a bunch of ill-conceived ideas presented in the style of a person for whom English is a second language.

Instead of trying to emulate the way I post, why don’t you just muster the tiny command of the language that you have and try and explain in a meaningful way how you feel and what you think?
 
  by: ZCT     02/04/2006 06:22 AM     
  I dont know enough  
 
about the policy in question - id assume that there is something codified that would cover this or she wouldnt have been dismissed from the squad.
 
  by: lauriesman     02/04/2006 11:57 AM     
  @lauriesman  
 
As another poster pointed out this area (that I happen to live in) is an ultra conservative Southern Baptist Bible Belt area (you'd probably love it here!).

Cheerleading is okay because rampant sexism and objectifying women is considered okay around here. Cheerleading is of course considered a normal wholesome all American pass time.

Getting a job at a sexist restaurant that objectifies women in a slightly different way is totally wrong. It’s quite a double standard really and just another way they like to keep those damn women in check.
 
  by: ZCT     02/04/2006 01:57 PM     
  You Gotta be KIDDING ME!!  
 
As a fellow Hooters visitor and knowing some of the girls by name both first and last, some of them work to pay for school, children, and for smoething to keep them out of trouble. Now it seems to reason if she worked at McDonalds the money wouldn't be that much but a Hooters it is somewhat better providing a way to pay school off quicker resulting in less money on the intrest side. She seems smart to me! With that said 99% of thoes girls are smart! So just take that and run it up the coaches AZZ! At least when she does graduate she won't have some shitty job as a coach with pissy pay!
 
  by: SmokinRam01   02/04/2006 05:19 PM     
  the girls  
 
may be hot, but i can't stand the food.
And from what i know they treat the girls like shit and hooters has been in the middle of a scandal of video taping them underessing.
 
  by: sp00ky187   02/04/2006 06:35 PM     
  That Hooter's is the only place on Sundays....  
 
Johnson City is quite a difficult place to enjoy. That Hooter's is the only place you can go to on a Sunday morning for a decent meal because all the church-types take over all the other venues. Spent a few hung-over Sunday mornings in that very Hooter's...

In addition, Southerners are famous for not tipping. What's she going to do now? Go to work for some other less profitable line of work that fits into her demanding athletic and academic schedule? I think the Piggly Wiggly closed down years ago and there is no red-light district (oh, there used to be quite an amazing highway that was nothing but brothels... years ago.) The conservatives have beaten the hell out of the Gentlemen's clubs there and I am not even sure if any are left!

P.S. You've never lived until you've had a beautiful Tennessee girl moan sweet-nothings into your ears while making love under the stars in the Smoky Mountains.
 
  by: theironboard     02/04/2006 06:48 PM     
  People always  
 
have to stick their noses where they don't belong. People turn each other in left and right. 'Why your deck is 1 centimeter too wide, which is in violation of code!'
 
  by: cbuilding   02/04/2006 07:50 PM     
  I want a hooters... nt  
 
 
  by: Emp3r0r     02/04/2006 09:15 PM     
  Just another example...  
 
Just another example of how a frightend society struggles to find someone or something to blame and punish. Religous fanaticism struggles against the natural expansion of reality because of it's inability to adapt. The future is just gonna get stranger and stranger and so it should. Repression, denial, it cannot be contained.
Even if this girl was a stripper, that's her biz!
 
  by: amodedoma   02/04/2006 10:33 PM     
  Contracts  
 
Are legally binding - if you agree to one, you are required by law to observe and complete the contract.

Whether you think you have a right to dance naked in a strip bar, work at a service station, or shovel cow manure is irrelevant - utterly and totally. If you agree to a contract that says stipulated among other things not bringing the school into disrepute then you have to observe that.

Now we don't know what the contract said, we don't even know if this is the reason she was removed from the squad (we only have her allegation it is) but crying foul is a knee jerk reaction at best.

If you don't like the conditions of a contract, don't agree to it. It is that simple.
 
  by: lauriesman     02/07/2006 03:22 AM     
  @lauriesman  
 
Sorry, but no. A contract is only legally binding if it is legal in the first place.

If I ask you to sign a contract to supply me with cocaine it is clearly not a legal contract.

Just because a college forces all their 'athletes' to sign some contract does not make it legal or legally enforceable.

You really think there is a legal contract that states that there are only certain restaurants an ‘athlete’ can work in during their own time? Also if you read the source it clearly states that the male basketball team had eaten there. So it is okay for a male team to eat there, but not okay for a member of a female team to work there?

Sorry, but at the core this case is one of gender discrimination. If you lived in this area as I do, you would understand the mentality of these sexist assholes that believe the woman's place is in the home, and that if they step out of line they need a good beating.

These so called female athletes are being asked to dress in a skimpy costume and jiggle around for the entertainment of the predominantly male audience at a sporting event. To try and take the moral high ground with Hooters is beyond ridiculous. As a foreigner the concept of cheerleading is quite absurd to me. When I see a college like this making decisions like these I am further astounded. You teach a girl that dressing in skimpy costumes and dancing around is okay, as long as you are not earning money while doing it? Please, it’s tripe. You can’t justify it with contract law 101.
 
  by: ZCT     02/07/2006 05:47 AM     
  @ZCT  
 
"dressing in skimpy costumes and dancing around is okay, as long as you are not earning money while doing it?"
lol, you hit it on the head. The school will have to explain how they are not making any type of profit from the skimpy cheerleading.
 
  by: kmazzawi     02/08/2006 10:53 PM     
  @ZCT  
 
There is nothing illegal about a provision regarding bringing the school into disrepute - thus your entire post is moot.

If indeed there was aomething illegal about that, then fine you might have a point. As it stands you're just rehashing the same tired arguments.
 
  by: lauriesman     02/10/2006 02:52 PM     
  Cheerleading  
 
(I'm not really going anywhere with this, just rambling, so skip over it if you're not interesteD)

is an established institution in the US. Don't ask me how the skimpy outfits got started, suffice to say that it is the norm.

In fact, there is a certain stigma associated with being a cheerleader at all - one that combines the elements of blonde bimbo, slut and snob. This stereotype is completely unfair, but it is part of being a cheerleader in so much as the stereotype exists and has not been overtly or noticably challenged.

Where is the difference between cheerleading and working at Hooters? If there is one, it is a point marked in the social conscience and cultural background of the school and the area. Working as a Hooters girl has its own stigma and stereotype.

Being a cheerleader is her duty as a member of the cheerleading squad, an activity that takes place within the confines of the sporting event environment, and is a distinct cultural context. The uniform is as much a part of that context as the dances and routines. We can liken this to the on-stage/off-stage contexts of an actor/actress. What is acceptable on-stage is not necessarily acceptable off-stage. Thus it comes down to the social conscience of the school and the area as to whether her actions in some way tarnish the schools image or the image of the schools atheletics program . To be clearer: if the school can show that its image in the eyes of the community it is part of has been tarnished by this girls actions, then any provision in a contract regarding bringing the school into disrepute (and I use this particular clause as it is quite standard in most school contracts where students become ambassadors of the school through various programs) can be legally exercised and her membership of the cheerleading squad terminated.

 
  by: lauriesman     02/10/2006 03:10 PM     
  @lauriesman  
 
Nice try. But you are wrong.

The school feels that Hooters is fine for the male basketball team to visit to celebrate a win, but wrong for a girl to work there?

Have you even been to Hooters? I've eaten in this specific one, it being just three minutes from my home. I can tell you that the girls are very well covered with nothing overtly exposed. You'd see more slutty outfits at the mall any day of the week. In fact I've seen people in CHURCH wearing worse than a Hooters uniform.

It is a discriminatory double standard, and it is sad that you are defending it. But perhaps you don't understand the culture in the South as well as you claim to.

As far as appearence goes here are some pictures:

Hooters Girls:
http://image05.webshots.com/...

Cheerleaders:
http://www.bigheadben.com/...
http://www.empusa.net/...

It is perfectly clear that a cheerleader has more exposed. Just because you feel it is a tradition, does not make it right. Subjugation of women has been a very longstanding tradition, like racism. It doesn't make it right though.

As for your tripe about contract law, they would have to do a lot more than talk crap to prove that Hooters brings the school into disrepute somehow. As I said I have eaten there several times, and there is nothing there that would create a problem. The place is packed with families; the same establishment was used by other school teams to celebrate wins. To somehow try and paint a picture of some seedy little strip club full of hookers is a total fabrication.

I know that your ultra conservative Christian values make you feel the need to defend authoritarian institutions to push back against what you see as the erosion of ‘traditional’ family values, but try to think beyond the dogma for a second. Discrimination is not right and it is not fair. In America a girl may have to take jobs they don’t wish to just to afford an education. America is all about deep divisions between the haves and the have nots. Thanks to the radical Christian freak who runs this country we have deeper divisions between rich and poor than ever before. This girl wanted an education, but you would deny her that because she is poor. So poor she has to work in a restaurant that objectifies women. Her culture persuaded her that it is okay to dress like a slut both for work and for her hobby. Her circumstance required her to work just to afford school. This girl is the victim here, the underdog (the kind of person Jesus would seek out to help). But you attack her and condemn her for wanting an education and working in a legitimate restaurant legally?
 
  by: ZCT     02/12/2006 01:56 PM     
 
 
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