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Israeli Warplanes Bomb Beirut International Airport

 

Israel Defence Forces ("IDF") have confirmed that they have bombed Beirut International Airport forcing the closure of the airport. This action comes as 27 civillians, including 10 children, were killed in overnight Israeli raids on southern Lebanon.

Beirut International Airport is the country's only international airport. Planes were forced to divert because of this attack and subsequent forced closure. Immediate reports of casualties arising from from this latest attack have yet to be confirmed.

An IDF spokesperon has accused Hezbollah of using the international airport as a "weapons hub". UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan has called for regional leaders to exercise restraint and to prevent the conflict from spreading.

 
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  Hmmmm...  
 
"UN Secretary-General have called for regional leaders to exercise restraint and to prevent the conflict from spreading."

That would be ideal, and would save countless innocent Arab lives.

Unfortunately, I'm not really sure that Israel or the IDF have shown a great deal of restraint, as much as they have shown the opposite. Nonetheless, I hope they can heed the advice of the secretary.

I imagine other users may put my point in clearer and more poignant detail than I have here. What a tragedy.
 
  by: Quantum1.5     07/13/2006 08:45 AM     
  well of course  
 
the entire country of lebanon is a training ground for terrorists. israel has the right to bomb every square inch of the middle east, because that's where the terrorists are. c'mon there's arabs over there! you know what happens when planes and arabs get together. they really ought to concentrate those arabs into some kind of camp.
 
  by: manilaryce     07/13/2006 09:00 AM     
  Is it time...  
 
...to take out Israel yet?
 
  by: ozric   07/13/2006 09:00 AM     
  @manilaryce  
 
"you know what happens when planes and arabs get together. they really ought to concentrate those arabs into some kind of camp."

Yeah and the Japanese know what happens when nuke bombs and american bombers get together. Do you have any camping preferences?
 
  by: mikha   07/13/2006 09:34 AM     
  @mikha  
 
the word of the day is "sarcasm". sorry i don't use the <tags>, but i assumed it was pretty obvious.
 
  by: manilaryce     07/13/2006 09:53 AM     
  @manilaryce  
 
You sorta had me confused me there too with your first comment - the tags do come in handy </irony>
 
  by: CheesyBiscuits   07/13/2006 11:47 AM     
  doh! forgot my main comment  
 
Bombing neighbouring countries in not the way forward to freeing prisoners,
the US is pinned down in Iraq and should some Middle Eastern countries decide to storm isreal and put an end to the little problem, I'm afraid isreal only has its self to blame.
 
  by: CheesyBiscuits   07/13/2006 11:54 AM     
  I do understand  
 
using their military might to save thier soldiers, they owe them that as members of the military, but this act is by far exceeding anything that is required to get back the 2 captured soldiers. This is a civilian airport. So this is a crime. Attack the military if you have a just cause. If the military uses the airport then fine, but if not the citizens deserve no hardships.
 
  by: ssxxxssssss   07/13/2006 12:50 PM     
  @manilaryce  
 
Oops. I read you now, loud & clear.
 
  by: mikha   07/13/2006 01:18 PM     
  Please  
 
Don't be irrational...the Palestinian people voted in a majority of parliament members from Hamas inlcuding their prime minister. Hamas then decides to be retarded and actually take part in the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. THEN the idiots try to publicly barter for them after committing this horrendous kidnapping crime. They are the criminals and they are the ones at fault here.
 
  by: candeaz   07/13/2006 02:58 PM     
  @candeaz  
 
you need to read up on 1946 and see who the real criminals are.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/...
 
  by: JocKstEelUk   07/13/2006 03:17 PM     
  @candeaz  
 
As I recall there was a peace before Isreal started calling in air strikes on picnics.
 
  by: Kavok   07/13/2006 03:28 PM     
  @JocKstEelUk  
 
Piss off with your divertant anti-logic. Dont bullshit about the history to take away from the point which is: THEY KIDNAPPED MULTIPLE PEOPLE. The "political party" that Israel voted in has close direct ties with one of the groups involved with the kidnappings. Hezbollah is a radical rogue terrorist group that had the main part in conducting this. What kind of civilized world are we in that it is okay to kidnap people and barter publicly for them? It is horrendous and those people are beasts who would think in such a primitive way.
 
  by: candeaz   07/13/2006 03:32 PM     
  @candeaz  
 
wha you have to remeber is isreal is an illigal occupation without borders. can you tell me one other country on earth that doesnt have borders? the fact is you have the majority of the people living on the minority of the land with an oppresive enemy. Right now the Isrealis are one step behind the Germans with regards to the way the treat the palestinians
 
  by: JocKstEelUk   07/13/2006 03:46 PM     
  2 soldiers = 27+ civilians?  
 
Must be some new math going on over there. Yes, taking the soldiers was a bad move, but, at least in this instance, Hezbollah attacked a legitimate military target. How does Israel justify it's response of attacking civilian targets? This goes FAR beyond the "right to defend themselves." But hey, in these days of preemptive wars and taking out regimes that sponsor terrorsim, if you get a few civilin casualties, eh, it happens. This is war. </irony>
 
  by: justaperson     07/13/2006 04:14 PM     
  Israel screwed up  
 
This whole situation seems awfully twisted. Israel has always complained that hezbollah targets civilians and now Israel blows its gasket when hezbollah targets legit military targets? I do get why they had to do the initial show of force. They couldn't appear soft or there would've been more kidnappings... oh wait.. that happened. I think what happened here is that Israel completely screwed up with their general show of force. A more directed action might have been called for. Like maybe rescue the soldier... or 'arrest' a top hezbollah official. Instead, Israel has shown hezbollah that they can destabilize the whole region by just kidnapping a few Israeli soldiers .
 
  by: bane39   07/13/2006 04:45 PM     
  ....  
 
"Eight soldiers were killed and two were injured, in addition to the two captured in a Hezbollah ambush. The captured men have now been named as Ehud Goldwasser, 31, and Eldad Regev, 26.

Hezbollah guerrillas also fired volleys of rockets at the northern Israeli coastal town of Nahariya, killing one Israeli and injuring 14 others.

They also fired seven rockets at the town of Safed, 15km (9 miles) inside the Israeli border, injuring 11 people. One woman later died of her wounds.

Hezbollah has threatened to attack the Israeli port city of Haifa if Israel bombs Beirut. Israel has warned people in the Lebanese capital's southern suburbs to evacuate."
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/13/2006 05:01 PM     
  Wtf..  
 
Isreal are seriously going nuts. I think they need to be sanctioned HEAVILY for this crap. They are going to cause WW3 soon.

 
  by: Wakers   07/13/2006 05:55 PM     
  don't let guilt get you down  
 
the israeli government and it's armed forces need to be removed.

remember too, the israeli army is acting of it's own will at the minute and it now more or less a military junta
 
  by: political exorcism   07/13/2006 08:03 PM     
  @candeaz  
 
I'm with you. It's amazing how naive people are. Israel knows from years of experience, the only way to deal with those people (by that I mean terrorists) is to respond with force. It is all they understand. Israel has no choice. The US would do the exact same thing. This 'illegal occupation' thing is BS, pure and simple. Israel has every right to that land. The Palestinians were offered citizenship, but everytime Israel gives them an inch, they screw it up and suicide bomb Israeli civilians, not to mention elect Hamas!!!
 
  by: m11   07/13/2006 09:03 PM     
  @m1  
 
israel has no more right to the land than any other people/person ora race on the planet.

israel are not adhering to the balfour declaration, a quote from which being
"it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"

so how many wars has israel fought since it was magically created by this british jew?
 
  by: political exorcism   07/13/2006 09:11 PM     
  @political exorcism  
 
Israel has done nothing to deny rights to non-Jews on Israeli land. There are plenty of law abiding Palestinians who are voting Israeli citizens. Just not the ones in the camps bent on the destruction of Israel. It's common sense. They have every right to that land, it was granted by the British, who controlled it. And thousands of years ago, it was theirs in the first place. Remember the whole crossing the Red Sea thing?
 
  by: m11   07/13/2006 09:15 PM     
  @ m11  
 
"the only way to deal with those people (by that I mean terrorists) is to respond with force. It is all they understand. Israel has no choice."

Perhaps your right on this, but it may be that the situation is eminantly more complex.

I would certainly suggest that this policy of responding only with force doesn't seem to be more effective than any other solution. If it was, I would strongly suspect that the people actively opposing Israel's actions or even its existence would of "understood" by now. I would not be willing to assume that Israel's enemies fail to understand the language of force. However, it seems the cycle is unending. Thus, I would think there's additional dynamics at work here, beyond the scope of both of our respective commentaries.

Cheers ;)
 
  by: Quantum1.5     07/13/2006 09:23 PM     
  @m11  
 
"Israel has done nothing to deny rights to non-Jews on Israeli land"

The Balfour Declaration says about not attacking non-jewish communities in PALESTINE, it doesn't say non-jews on israeli land. Just to clear that up eh.

Secondly, after israel declared statehood the n eighbouring countries attacked. Israel then occupied land in palestine that was declared to the arabs, as per the UN proposal following from the balfour declaration
 
  by: political exorcism   07/13/2006 09:23 PM     
  @m11  
 
"They have every right to that land."

according to who? *god*? if that's the case, the arabs have been making the same argument since israel's inception.
 
  by: pixx   07/13/2006 09:24 PM     
  @m11  
 
By that same logic you could state that Native Americans can kick current Americans back to their countries of origin because they were here first.
 
  by: Daev     07/13/2006 09:26 PM     
  bah  
 
Oh for &*@#s sake if they still want to fight over land this will never end. Who cares!!! I don't think it matters when they are all dead.

@m11 The terrorist were looking to provoke Israel and have succeeded. Israel creates more problems for its self with this stuff. A more measured response would have been much better.

@daev good luck with that although I should remind you of the USS Nimitz.
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/13/2006 09:38 PM     
  @Emp  
 
I am not saying it would happen :P

I am simply saying by his logic if that was the way the world worked, then we would all be on ships heading back to Europe, well the majority of us at least. :P
 
  by: Daev     07/13/2006 09:44 PM     
  Reality  
 
Many of you seem to be missing reality. Land is taken and held, often by force. It is that simple. The British controlled that land and granted it to the state of Israel. Now the Israelis control it, through military force (notwithstanding that this was 'their land' from ancient times). There is no flaw in my logic. The United States conquered / purchased / was granted and has held its territory. Israel has done the same. As long as they can hold it, militarily, it is their land, the same as the United States. THAT is reality. Haven't you people ever played Civilizations? Daev: Native Americans can't kick American citizens off of 'their' land because 1) it's not their land, it was taken from them, and 2) they lack the military power to do so. It's simple.
 
  by: m11   07/13/2006 10:34 PM     
  @m11  
 
"Land is taken and held, often by force. It is that simple"

"(notwithstanding that this was 'their land' from ancient times)"

contradicting quote from the same paragraph. It also used to belon to persia is ancient times, amongst many other races
 
  by: political exorcism   07/13/2006 11:02 PM     
  :) daev nt  
 
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/13/2006 11:02 PM     
  @political exorcism  
 
Persia = Iran. I don't see Iran taking over Israel anytime soon, though they desperately want to. It is for this reason, that Israel cannot allow Iran to develop nukes. Regardless of what the US does, Israel cannot allow it. If Iran developed a nuclear weapon, Israel would be destroyed... it is that simple. The existence of the Israeli state depends entirely upon its ability to forcibly protect itself.
 
  by: m11   07/13/2006 11:11 PM     
  @m11  
 
persia was turkey, syria, lebanon, egypt, libya, iran, iraq and jordan. I'm pretty sure those countries together would be a force, most being in the arab league n that.

the world is now too small for countries, the only options are to let everyone co-exist or to close all borders everywhere and keep them like that.

getting back on topic.. israel is using any excuse to settle their old score with lebanon. the sooner israels ego gets deflated the better, there's only enough room one massive world ego and that's why they have half a continent to themselves
 
  by: political exorcism   07/13/2006 11:28 PM     
  political exorcism  
 
then please explain why Israel was attacked first?

Maybe if people can keep their terrorist to them selves, there would be less of an issue.
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/13/2006 11:52 PM     
  @justaperson: Close  
 
It's 1 Jew = 1000 Arabs

Rehavam Ze'evi, member of the Israeli Knesset stated, "Every Jew is worth a thousand Arabs." (Al-Fajr, Nov. 6, 1989, p. 15).
 
  by: FreakKeeper     07/14/2006 12:09 AM     
  @Emp3r0r  
 
ah ok, they were attacked because they have turned palestinian gaza and west bank into a giant arab prison. The control all the palestinian aid money through israeli/jewish banks and they shoot indestriminately at palestinians from their crude borders.

Probably also because they claim right to land from a widley disputed document, maybe because they are a nuclear weapons hub for america, maybe because they have conquered land not theirs according to un mandate..

or maybe just the fact they are in the middle east in the first place.. you can't tell me someone actually sat down and thought "here's a good idea, we'll move all the jews right in the middle of the arabs they'll be great mates"
 
  by: political exorcism   07/14/2006 12:12 AM     
  @Emp3r0r  
 
and if your talking about hezbolah which i think you were. Hezbolah is an organisation, not a country.
This is the equivalent of the british bombing dublin airport after the IRA london bomnings
 
  by: political exorcism   07/14/2006 12:18 AM     
  History of The Land:  
 
Israel:
History of the Land (partial)
Philistia - "Gaza Strip"
Israelite Conquest
Divided Kingdom
Assyrian occupation
Babylonian occupation
Medo-Persian occupation
Greek occupation
Syrian occupation
Roman occupation
Moslem occupation
Crusader occupation
Ottoman occupation
Zionism (1896)
Balfour Declaration (1917)
British Mandate (1922)
Nazi Persecution (1930's-1940's)
Independence "Israel" - May 15, 1948
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 12:43 AM     
  just something else as well:  
 
The Jewish people would be scattered worldwide; yet Israel would become a nation again-ref Isaiah 66:8; Micah 5:3. Prophecy fulfilled. This happened exactly as predicted on May 14, 1948.

Prophecy No:1 ^_^
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 12:44 AM     
  No: 2  
 
Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isaiah 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That?s 2 out of

2.Note: On Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the U.N. approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. On the morning of May 14, 1948 (the last day of the British mandate), a meeting of the People?s Council took place in Israel to decide on the name of the state and to finalize the declaration. At exactly 4pm, the proclamation ceremony began at the Tel Aviv museum. The 979 Hebrew words of the Scroll of Independence were read. All stood, and the scroll was adopted. The notorious White Paper, issued by the British in 1930 restricting Jewish immigration, was declared null and void. Members of the People's Council signed the proclamation. David Ben-Gurion rapped his gavel, declaring, "The State of Israel is established. This meeting is ended." Israel was brought forth as a nation in one day, at once. It happened exactly as predicted. At midnight, the British soldiers and high commissioner would leave. President Truman was swift in announcing U.S. recognition of Israel. The following morning, on May 15, Israel was under armed attack by the Egyptians, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, and Iraqis.
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 12:46 AM     
  i must be missing something  
 
"Land is taken and held, often by force... Israel has done the same. As long as they can hold it, militarily, it is their land..."

so the land is rightfully israels because they have the force to keep it? well if that's the case, isn't it well within a "terrorist's" right to also use force in obtaining land? if israel can hold onto the land then good for them, but if they can't then oh well. that's just how history works, right?
 
  by: manilaryce     07/14/2006 12:52 AM     
  @m11  
 
in other words, why should we condemn arabs, but congratulate jews for both using force in their attempts to acquire land? using your logic, any land taken from israel by iran or lebanon through violent means would rightfully be "their land".
 
  by: manilaryce     07/14/2006 12:58 AM     
  @bye  
 
you're second 'prophecy' is wrong, did the state of israel not at least begin to be created with the balfour agreement? that's 31years by me not one day.

Second, bit of a long story but, israel only came about due to the power the US gained after world war two. Remember the way they didn't join in til well late in the game? that was because they were waiting for the british empire to agree to dismantle it's empire when the war was won. which happened when independence was granted to india etc.
Anyway, with the jewish community having great sway in america, and america having great sway over the crippled british empire, they were forced to create israel.

Now you can use your quote about israel becoming a nation again, over and over again. Israel could be dismantled then years later someone else could do something similar and you use the same quote. Now imagine how many other sweeping quotes have been made by people in history and how many the quotes could be reused.. it kinda looses it's meaning don't you think?
 
  by: political exorcism   07/14/2006 01:00 AM     
  @manila  
 
It would seem that way.
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 01:10 AM     
  political exorcism  
 
a group funded and armed by who? and where were they attacking from?
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/14/2006 01:15 AM     
  Justification?  
 
Given the current situation of the world, I find it funny how alot of you are always ready to lash out at Israel.

The U.S used 5,000 deaths Sep 11, as justification for the thousands more who are currently dying. Now if Israel follows suit in the same fashion that the biggest and most powerful nation would, I'm not suprised for it and neither should they be blamed. Politics, wars all about which angle you look at it from really.

Time for WIII if you ask me especially the way the current nations deal with third world countries.

1) America went as far as Afghanistan and Iraq to neutralize the so called threats, so I don't really see how Israel is even close to being a tryant. Yes all this talk about them occupying an extra bit of land and all, but where does that stand when you compare it to the atrocities being committed across the world and that go unnoticed. i.e: U.S International Affairs, Iraq, Africa.

If anyone needs to get wiped off the map 1st it would be the U.S, 1 for the all the havoc that is in placce, 2 for destablizing the International community. Honestly who in their right believes International Law or the U.N works anymore especially after what Bush did and is doing.

2)The number of civilian deaths and casualties caused by both the wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan can never be justified. Nothing can be justified anymore on the International scene.

Law has been turned upside down. At the end of the day, its how you want to view things, and the way things are looking at the moment, I don't see how anything can be criticized. It's come to a point when we try to establish the so called laws we have in place there are actually none because they don't prevent nation after nation from doing what they have always done to counter an enemy, that is conquer, attack and destroy the enemy.

Exactly what the U.S did when they chose to attack Iraq and Afghanistan.

It gives every other country the same right to do the same with anyother country they feel that threatens them.

All about how much of the world market you control and weapons you possess to get away with it from now on.
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 01:17 AM     
  @political  
 
"The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated November 2, 1917, from British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour, to Lord Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation, a private Zionist organization. The letter stated the position, agreed at a British Cabinet meeting on October 31, 1917, that the British government supported Zionist plans for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine, with the condition that nothing should be done which might prejudice the rights of existing communities there."

If you look at it from that way then yes.

But it was what was accomplished on that day that caused the "Independence of Israel" to be established. It took one day for Israel to establish independence.

It was because of this Independence being established that Israel was attacked the next day.

@political thats how you want see it by I see it the other way around, since it was because of the Independence they established on that day the same reason why they were attacked on the 15th.
If you believe that it took 31 years its all a matter of opinion again.
 
  by: bye     07/14/2006 01:25 AM     
  Its just the begining people...  
 
lets hope for all our sakes this does not escalate into something much bigger.
 
  by: zmethod     07/14/2006 02:36 AM     
  @bye  
 
i appreciate your opinion, some good points.

it would be good if the sides were able to , or tried to, sit down and freely discuss thier opinions like this. It's all about understanding the other guys point of view.

it's getting scary now, iran has stated that an attack by israel on syria would be classed as an attack on the entire islamic world.. i always thought the polar shift would kill us but ww3 is looking closer
 
  by: political exorcism   07/14/2006 02:43 AM     
  @bye  
 
you missed out one,

2006 the continuing persecution of palestinians

and 1946 sould realy say land coup illigal declaration of the new state of isreal because thats what it s like it or not.
 
  by: JocKstEelUk   07/14/2006 06:45 AM     
  m11 and candeaz  
 
candeaz: "kidnapped multiple..."
well, this is what happens when you are in war, yous soldiers are either killed or kidnapped, being kidnapped is better than killing... killing civilians that is... killing civilians whith the person you are having the war with... and starting a whole new war and killing more civilians!
m11: "Israel has every right to do that" well, same way terrorists have every right to do what they are doing! no one has the right to end someone else's life, Period. "Reality" yes, it is a reality people will fight back, kill 1 civilian child and you can't be expecting his/her parents to welcome you into their house, their relatives to kiss your forehead and appologise for the trauma you have been through while killing their little one!
 
  by: DarkAngelJG     07/14/2006 11:11 AM     
  @Emp3r0r  
 
"a group funded and armed by who? and where were they attacking from?"

The group is largely funded by a few arab countries including iran, jordan, eqypt, syria and probably saudi by some means.

The are based in the land that was once occupied by israel, probably to stop them coming back. The land is recognised as lebanon mostly but by some it is no mans land
 
  by: political exorcism   07/14/2006 04:32 PM     
  then who struck first?  
 
who kiddnaped who?
how people fund a such group?
 
  by: Emp3r0r     07/14/2006 05:13 PM     
 
 
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