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10/04/2006 02:34 PM ID: 57414 Permalink   

1 Million Bullets Per Minute: $100 Million to Move


A revolutionary new "supergun" can actually fire 1 million bullets per minute, or 1 million grenades. This incredible weapon was invented by Mike O'Dwyer, an Australian scientist based in Brisbane.

China wants Mr. O'Dwyer and has offered him US$100 million just to move there. He declined the generous offer. The weapon is called Metal Storm, and can be applied to almost any caliber of weapon. The average rate of fire for an Uzi is a mere 3,000 bpm.

Very few firearm revolutions have occurred in the past 60 or so years. You could send out a cloud of bullets or grenades in 1-2 seconds. The U.S. military has successfully tested this device and production is expected in as little as 12 to 24 months.

    WebReporter: majikimaje Show Calling Card      
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Oh come on !!! sorry but I just can't stop laughing over this..

#1 how do you reload this
#2 how long does this take
#3 where do you carry spare ammunition?
#4 How long before you become buried alive in all the empty shells?
Oh this is just too much!!!
  by: majikimaje     10/04/2006 02:41 PM     
  I remember hearing of this years ago.  
I guess its now pretty much completed. Very nasty. I would like to personally thank Mike O'Dwyer for how his science will benefit humanity worldwide. (I bet he's real proud).
  by: crunch     10/04/2006 02:45 PM     
It uses solid ammo, that is shattered to produce the high quantity of ammunition, and support the rate of fire, it also allows efficient reloading.

This isn't a new weapon it has been around for at least 2 years now, the new aspect is china trying to poach a weapons inventor.
  by: lauriesman     10/04/2006 03:00 PM     
That's just what we need at a time like this - more high-tech super killing machines.
  by: daniel2508     10/04/2006 03:03 PM     
If anyone was going to have this weapon, at least we're the ones developing it, and not China.
  by: NicPre     10/04/2006 03:23 PM     
  the china connection...  
... is new info, but Metal Storm has been around for awhile. I rememebr reading about the technology in the late 90s.

It's a pretty cool system. Essentially what happens is all of the bullets are in the barrel of the gun. An electroinc pulse fires the bullets when you pull the trigger instead of a physical hammer.

Depending on the trigger setting you can either fire 1 bullet per trigger pull, or fire them all off. The electronic singal fires the leading bullet first, then the next, then the next, then the next... All 10(?) rounds exit the gun in a fraction of a second.

The million rounds per minute weapon is the 36 barrel prototype. It doesn't actually have 1 million rounds in it, it's just the fireing rate. Essentially it fires 180 bullets at a rate of 1 million per minute (in these tests, can hold more than 180 bullets, but not anywhere near 1 million =P)

Check out the prototype video here

the 1 million round rate is the final test of the sequence. The ammount of destruction this gun can do is just brutal.

  by: Dedolito     10/04/2006 03:45 PM     
  as an aside...  
.. originally when they were trying to sell the idea of this weapon in the 90's they not only touted its military capabilities but tried to sell the idea of using it as a forest fire supression tool.

They had some mock video clips of a plane flying in and firing a huge number of Pyrogen fire suppressant projectiles into fires burning in remote areas.

It was an interesting idea, tho I'm not sure how practical it would have been.

Clearly metal storm has moved on to purely military applications and have even moved beyond their "simple" firing mechanism to putting their rapid-fire guns on robots. They have a variety of remote control treaded vehicles armed with their launchers, as well as a remote controlled mini-helicopter.
  by: Dedolito     10/04/2006 03:56 PM     
  I am....  
...very surprised that the news on Metal Storm is new to the shortnews community...
  by: definition   10/04/2006 05:08 PM     
  I remember this  
This was invented when I was a kid.
  by: Eidron   10/04/2006 05:22 PM     
  Scary times  
Yup, it's the end alright. probably from now on your going to start hearing more news about who has more effective "weapons"

Also isn't this consider a WMD? I think it is.
  by: Ph0bia   10/04/2006 08:37 PM     
He should tell China to shove it.
  by: SerialTickler     10/04/2006 08:39 PM     
Who has it already??? USA!!. After acquisition of such device, how do you go out and destroy lives on the pretext of, "seeking to eliminate Weapons Of Mass Destruction"

( Kinko rolling his eyes in dismay looking for Dubya to slap him in the back of his head)
  by: kinko     10/04/2006 10:56 PM     
  Metal Storm  
The weapon is a joke.

First of all think of this:
-How heavy is that gun gonna be with 1-million bullets dripping out the side ready to be shot?
-How are going to move it fast enough when rapidly spraying on attackers so that you don't waste 50,000 bullets on 4 people?
-Imagine reloading this. -.-
-Imagine carrying the ammo for this.
-Imagine the cost of the ammo for one million bullets...where's that money gonna come from? taxes.

It's a ****ing joke.
  by: dark_blayd   10/04/2006 11:00 PM     
You might want to read Dedolito's posts in this thread..
  by: StarShadow     10/04/2006 11:07 PM     
  Military Channel  
An episode of Future Weapons on the Military Channel has a good feature on this weapon. One use of it would be for border defense. The units can be placed a long a set defense line and be connected to a sensor grid providing unmanned defense. Depending on the ammo they can literally tear a tank apart in a second or two. It's a pretty unique concept and design and will be interesting to see how it works out in the field.
  by: ronny_cordova   10/04/2006 11:08 PM     
*sigh* watch the link I posted. These things don't actually carry that many rounds. The mil rounds a minute is the rate that it fires at, not the number of rounds it actually fires.

I'm impressed by the handgun application of this technology. 10 bullets loaded into the barrel with the option of firing 1, bursts, or all bullets at a time. That's some serious stopping power when you need it without having to move to high caliber weaponry.

The reload mechanism for the handguns impressed me too. Instead of clips of ammo, you carry spare loaded barrels. Slide the empty barrel off, snap a new one into place. A lot like a clip really.

For the 36 barrel, 1 mil rounds a min rated gun, it's pretty awesome to see but in that scenario I'd think a high caliber weapon would do better for cheaper. On the other hand the versatility of the weapon, from single fire, staggered fire, or all-out barrage might make up for in relative cost-ineffectiveness (compared to high caliber weaponry) at high fire rates.

On the other hand if you slow the firing rate down, like they do in the early vid clips, couple that with a computer targeting device and you'd have a device that could keep a relatively steady stream of suppression fire, equivalent of a couple of dozen soldiers, all in one device.

I know that in the larger caliber weapons that this technology has been mated to has made for some really formidable self-targeting smart weapons that, after deciding target priorities, go after the targets with a ruthless efficiency that toggles between single and multi firing modes as needed to obliterate the targets.
  by: Dedolito     10/04/2006 11:14 PM     
  I swear this was reported...  
But I can't find anything. Here's a CNN story from 2003.
  by: caution2     10/04/2006 11:20 PM     
  To all the people who  
think this is going to be used on human targets dont be so foolish. This system is primarily to be used againts artillery (distroy incoming 'dumb' projetiles, and for missles aimed at stationary or semi stationary targets (ie HQ buildings and ships). They would not spend 1 million rounds on a few people think about it. Grenades though is strange, although it could be used i doubt it would be unless they required it as a new form of artillery.
  by: ssxxxssssss   10/05/2006 12:47 AM     
Why would anybody need a firing rate of one million bullets per minute? Could you imagine how many of those bullets would be wasted.

And could you imagine how often you would have to reload and how slow reloading would be.

It's like playing counter strike with the "m249"..a great rate of fire, powerful but not very accurate and reloading is very slow.

Except to add to the downsides..with this new gun you would have to reload even more often due to rate of fire.
  by: dark_blayd   10/05/2006 12:55 AM     
Why would anybody need a firing rate of one million bullets per minute? Could you imagine how many of those bullets would be wasted.

And could you imagine how often you would have to reload and how slow reloading would be.

It's like playing counter strike with the "m249"..a great rate of fire, powerful but not very accurate and reloading is very slow.

Except to add to the downsides..with this new gun you would have to reload even more often due to rate of fire.
  by: dark_blayd   10/05/2006 01:07 AM     
  Does no-one read  
The orginal articles or go the the website. A 4 round grenade clip loads in about 5 seconds, quicker I suppose if they were not taking the time to show how easy it was. Yeah loading the whole 16 tubes of grenades would take a bit but the with the idea of multiple barrages of these going on the denial incoming attack is great. I also suppose there is a speed loader for these things.. load all 16 tubes at once like a spead loader for a revolver.

Now to all those that are going where would they put 1M rounds of ammo.. the UZI listed in the above posting is reated at 3K rounds a minute.. So too all the dee dee dee's that can't figure out that the uzi does NOT have a 3K round clip.. the answer is simple.. the same place the uzi get it's 3K round clip.

So Before you post and look like a total DEE DEE DEE. Goto the wesite, watch all the videos, then ask your self, Do I really want to show the world my ignorance.

@ Majikimaje, Dedolito.

Good job both of you.. and to Dedolito, Keep putting DEE DEE DEE's in their place.
  by: CaveHermit   10/05/2006 01:24 AM     
I believe you have some egg on your face, I'd suggest you see to that.
  by: anony-chan   10/05/2006 01:42 AM     
  Well finally  
Someone who hasn't sold out to China, much like walmart did and those damn Dell execs..
  by: cbuilding   10/05/2006 03:52 AM     
because you could use the same device for anti-infantry at a low fire rate and anti-tank at a high fire rate. The versatility of the weapon's stopping power is the point of the device.

These things are supposed to get loaded with a couple tens of thousands of rounds from what I understand. At 1 mil round/min you would run out fast enough of course, but then how many tanks you planning on having to stop?

Reloading isn't much of a pain if you have replacement devices ready to go. The whole system is plug-and-play. Run out of ammo, snap off the barrel and snap in a new one. Long as you;ve got spare barrels/boxes reloading is quick.
  by: Dedolito     10/05/2006 04:23 AM     

@Dedolito...okay, fair enough...are the 'barrels/boxes'...the big head thing? or what =/
  by: dark_blayd   10/05/2006 09:02 AM     
  oldie but a goodie  
Good article, good read, good information. only downside is people not reading everything and making themselves look very foolish by asking questions already answered. Its not so much the gun, but the technology that makes it great. Lots of good uses for it when it comes to wartime stuff. very versatile.
  by: confed   10/05/2006 04:04 PM     
  Read before you post!  
There is a definitive need for a device that can fire 1,000,000 rps. When an incoming missle or artillery shell is identified, Metal Storm can produce a veritable cloud of "bullets", which will destroy the incoming threat.

The grenade "attachment" will be VERY effective against infantry and will allow th US to soften the enemy lines up without losing a soldier.

The large caliber version is very effective at eliminating hard targets and buildings.

If you can't see the value of such a tool, then you really need to move on to a basketweaving article or something.
  by: twisted_mister   10/05/2006 04:23 PM     
  In comparison  
SA80 - 650 rpm, comes with 30 round clip

M16 - 750/900 rpm, again, usualy 30 round clip

Goalkeeper - 4200rpm, belt fed.

No gun has enough bullets for a minute of full auto.
  by: GogeVandire   10/05/2006 08:23 PM     
  i could picture this  
being used in a new tiananmen square incident. :\
  by: hamstertube   10/06/2006 11:24 PM     
  weapon will primarily be used as interceptors  
as GogeVandire says: Goalkeeper also has a high rate of fire. So does Phalanx guns.

Check for videos on the internet.

These guns at fill a bucket with cartridges in a few seconds; completely emptying the magazine. These guns are 'bin-loaded'. My mate said that at close range, the shockwave of the gun firing throws you back off-balance slightly.

They are basically used to throw up a wall of lead in front of an incoming missile - shredding it.

The shredded missile basically makes smaller holes in the super structure when it finally reaches the ship.

With 1,000,000 rpm, you could possibly knock out incoming shells (if you could develop a guidance system smart enough).
  by: redstain   10/07/2006 12:03 AM     
  the anti armour  
value is pretty awesome as well, but yeah, primarily for prematurely detonating missiles, rockets and artilery shells.
  by: GogeVandire   10/07/2006 12:36 AM     
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