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10/14/2006 08:11 PM ID: 57622 Permalink   

Indian Hindus to Convert to Buddhism

 

In protest against the injustice of the Indian caste system, thousands of people will attend a mass conversion ceremony in the central city of Nagpur (India) where many low-caste Hindus will convert to Buddhism.

Low-caste Hindus, also known as Dalits or Untouchables are constantly discriminated against and face a lot of prejudice; they hope to escape such treatment by converting to Buddhism.

The ceremony is the 50th anniversary of scholar Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar’s conversion to Buddhism. He was the first low-caste Indian to convert to Buddhism and encourage other Indians to join the religion.

 
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  13 Comments
  
  So  
 
can this count as converting or just moving from one bad living condition to a hopefully better one.

Reminds me of the forced conversion thoughout Europe. Being forced to be part of another religion, be it by the sword or by 'running' from discrimantion can hardly be called a conversion can it?
 
  by: Flutje   10/14/2006 09:33 PM     
  Sad  
 
It's sad that they must convert and leave their religion for another, just to escape idiots who have nothing better to do than discriminate.
-np-
 
  by: NicPre     10/15/2006 12:02 AM     
  @NicPre  
 
It is sad, unfortunately this is how the religion now works. As of right now they have no chance to move up in society, as bad as it sounds this is probably the best thing they can do in order to better themselves. Just from my experiences... it seems as if all the other religions in India have a much easier time then the Hindis themselves.
 
  by: diem928   10/15/2006 01:57 AM     
  @Diem  
 
AT Hindus themselves. Hindi is the language spoken as main language in India. Most Hindus speak Gujjarati.

Besides above. I dont understand the mantra of this religion (Hindu)As one has to accept the caste system in order to be elevated in a foodchain! Or worship a cow and elevate it to a devine supremacy..Tsk.Tsk.Tsk...
 
  by: kinko     10/15/2006 05:54 PM     
  @kinko  
 
Such a glowing display of tolerance! You sound a lot like Osama bin Laden, who calls Hindus "cow worshippers."
 
  by: l´anglais     10/15/2006 06:01 PM     
  @l'anglais  
 
y'know Hitler and I both liked fine art! Kinda makes you wonder....
 
  by: Fiebre   10/16/2006 03:39 AM     
  @kinko  
 
That's nothing i heard about some crazy relgion called Islam, where you have to get on your hands and knees and pray several times a day, all facing towards some place called mecca. They make the ladies dress up like ninjas.

Not to mention some other wacky one called Christianity, where they all all worship some guy on a cross. And they have to sing songs and read a big book called the bibble or something.

its religious-iffic

 
  by: koultunami     10/16/2006 01:18 PM     
  @kinko  
 
Is that devine supremacy or bovine supremacy?

Anyway, I worship cows all the time.
I prefer to sacrifice them on my barbeque regularly. Medium rare preferred!

 
  by: Zpravodajec     10/16/2006 07:12 PM     
  @Kinko  
 

Yes that was my mistake it was clearly a typo. I know the difference between the two. Is worshipping a cow no more ludicrous then worshipping a man? As a matter of fact a cow sounds much more reasonable to worship considering they were/are much more useful in the real world when compared to worshipping dead men.

Let me know when you see a dead man provide Food(dairy products),Fuel(cow patties which are is still the major source of fuel for homes in India), & labor(plowing) in today’s world.

If I created Hinduism I would have also preached that the cows were sacred since they were much more useful alive then dead 5000 years ago.

And actually the social caste system as we know it today did not come about until much later in India’s history (we are looking at a religion/society starting around 5-3000 B.C.E.). The Rig Veda even has a hymn that states “I am a bard, my father is a physician, my mothers job is to grind the corn…”(source: (RV 9.112.3). Which shows that the religious side of the caste system did not prevent intermarriages between castes.
 
  by: diem928   10/16/2006 11:39 PM     
  So  
 
That means that the faith doesn't matter to them if they can just convert to Buddhism
 
  by: leparsdon     10/17/2006 02:44 AM     
  @anglais  
 
Oh tolerant I am and I can live, I have lived with them, I speak their dialect and two of their languages fluently, however I cant pretend to ignore their worshiping idiom.

You see, last papa was really against a cross and a depiction of Jesus on the cross, and he actually pointed it out, by saying that; many would parceive Christianity as a religion of idolaters, that was his reason.

I was oneday on the Streets of New Delhi with my Dad, Streets were jam packed with everything, from human to animals and everyone was busy minding their own bizwax. All of a sudden this lady pushes her way to a cow urinating. What my Dad and I saw, left me agash.

This woman was collecting the urine in her palms and washing her face and drinking and saying her mantra.

I conclude have nothing further to type as the scene just appeared very vivid.
 
  by: kinko     10/18/2006 05:18 AM     
  It is not a great change of faith  
 
In some places around the indian subcontinent buddhism and hinduism go hand in hand, so these convertions are quite benefical for those born under low caste. Those people will easily convert to islam or christianity as well to escape prejudice.

Mind you high caste is not a guarantee of wealth and easy life. I spent a lot of time in India and have seen many brahmins (highest caste) living on the streets and doing menial jobs.

As for hinduism itself, it has a great philosophy behind it, perhaps the best among all major religions, but at a practical level it is plagued with supersticions of all kinds.

In the south of India there are some that believe if as much as a Dalit's (low caste) shadow crosses a brahmin (hi caste) a purification ceremony is needed so the brahmin can be clean again. This is very sad but is their tradition and is very hard to change.

@Kinko
The official and most spoken language in India is Hindi not Gujarati although they have common roots (sanskrit).
 
  by: _strider_   10/18/2006 11:02 PM     
  @strider  
 
this is what I wrote "AT Hindus themselves. Hindi is the language spoken as main language in India. Most Hindus speak Gujjarati." Anything else to add on??
 
  by: kinko     10/19/2006 01:14 AM     
 
 
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