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02/16/2007 11:16 AM ID: 60296 Permalink   

Hershey's Moving to Mexico, Cutting 1,500 Jobs

 

US chocolate maker Hershey's has announced it will be moving 10% of its operations out of the US and cutting 1,500 jobs from its global work force. The three-year restructuring plan will save Hershey's US$190 million per year.

Spokesperson Kirk Saville didn't give any real details, saying only that "Some (plants) will be expanded, some will be downsized and some will close." The company will be opening a new plant in Mexico under the plan.

Hershey's President Richard H. Lenny said: "We recognize this will involve considerable change over the next three years, and intend to make this transformation of our supply chain as smooth as possible for our employees and customers."

 
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  this is bad...  
 
NAFTA NAFTA NAFTA NAFTA

...not good for American workers.

The U.S. can not continue to lose industry. The alarm bells are going off.

America has got to produce it's own goods for it's own economy. This is not a racist thing. This golden rule needs to apply to all countries.
 
  by: simonstudio   02/16/2007 01:16 PM     
  Yur doin a heck of a job Dubya, heck of a job  
 
 
  by: Valkyrie123     02/16/2007 02:22 PM     
  Pay someone  
 
$2 in mexico, or $5 in the US, + medical insurance, paid sick leave ect.

Hardly a choice.
 
  by: Gogevandire   02/16/2007 02:31 PM     
  Get a few..  
 
More large companies to move to Mexico and Mexico might have to put up their own wall..
 
  by: StarShadow     02/16/2007 03:56 PM     
  Welcome to America  
 
The country of retail and fast food jobs only. Coming to you in 2008

Daddy Bush starts it, Bill signs it, Shrub watches everything cross the borders. Bendover and enjoy it Citizen Joe Q American.
 
  by: TaraB     02/16/2007 04:08 PM     
  Idea...  
 
Ok I've got an idea that I see no problems with as of yet. Perhaps if it seems plausible to everyone here, we should all try and submit it to our local lawmakers, etc. I propose that a new law be made forcing all American-Owned companies to (at the very least) pay the American Federal Wage to ALL employees, regardless of which country they are working in. This would solve a few problems.
1. Less companies would outsource...
2. Those companies that do outsource would at least be providing decent wages to people who really need it!
3. Companies who do outsource could still save money just on basic operating costs, taxes, and the fact that they'd still only be paying the Federal Minimum wage (and I believe that most factory workers in the US make at least a little over that figure). I think this plan has real potential, anyone else think it sounds good?
 
  by: theavenger8     02/16/2007 07:12 PM     
  @Goge  
 
The thing is, this is one of those cases in which I think the government needs to assert itself over business. If one doesn't favor regulation, then perhaps it ought to be penalties and roadblocks for companies to move out of America but try to keep their base and market here. Reducing regulations so they can set up their sweatshops here is not the answer. They should not be just allowed to do this without any negative consequences.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     02/16/2007 07:28 PM     
  WoW  
 
Hershey was the last company I would of expected to move to Mexico. I mean hell they already have an entire town built around their factory in PA. It isn't going to be the same knowing where the chocolate is produced anymore. I know a lot of people in the area took pride in knowing it was produced locally by people you knew and talked to everyday.
 
  by: ronny_cordova   02/16/2007 10:59 PM     
  The only way to stop shit like this  
 
is to send a message to companies who choose to do this - From here on I wont buy Hershey's product. heaven forbid Americans stop eating chocolate. Fat asses.
 
  by: Classy   02/16/2007 11:40 PM     
  Hershey's Kiss...  
 
your job goodbye!
 
  by: beltman713   02/17/2007 02:41 AM     
  .  
 
I got an idea, lets raise minimum wage again, so we have to pay $4 for a loaf of bread!
Keep the jobs here
 
  by: Rodney Jason   02/17/2007 05:31 AM     
  @theavenger8  
 
say good by to your afordable clothing and materail objects then. Doing that would really throw our econemy for a spin.
 
  by: shoezacks   02/17/2007 09:59 AM     
  3 ways out of this economy pit  
 
shoezacks is right, stopping people from lowering cost of their products will crucify the economy.

We can only do one/combination of three things, some of these are unpopular. Tell me if I'm wrong:

1) make products that can't be copied by other nations & stay 5 years ahead of these nations.

2) start to bring down minimum wage. Tax, enforce, encourage upper wages brackets to be brought down accordingly.

3) Invade another nations, force them to buy our products/sell us resources.
 
  by: redstain   02/17/2007 10:37 AM     
  @Classy  
 
I know we dont agree on many thing but we agree here. This is a bad way of doing business so I agree with you 100% on this one.

At the same time I wonder if Hershey's already uses slave labor or child labor in to obtain cocoa? Watched democracy-now on v-day and they were showing how a lot of these chocolate companies employ slave or child labor in obtaining cocoa. They also showed some stuff about flowers and diamonds... I feel all bad buying things for the women in my life now... A lot of the money paid for these 3 things goes into the pockets of war-lords, terrorists and companies that employ forced labor...
 
  by: slavefortheman     02/17/2007 06:41 PM     
  ...  
 
mmmm Mexican made chocolate, doesn't that just sound appetizing.

Last thing I'd eat is food made in some third world country, where it's unsafe to even drink the water.
 
  by: LondonOntGuy   02/18/2007 06:17 AM     
  ...  
 
and as a follow-up to my previous post, it's no wonder the auto makers are in trouble.

With everyone losing their jobs thanks to outsourcing, how can anyone afford to get a new car? It's a big trickle down effect, and as someone said, it's only going to be Wally World, fast food and those parasite employment agencies that have taken hold of every job in London.
 
  by: LondonOntGuy   02/18/2007 06:20 AM     
  ya...  
 
i think a lot of you are kinda on track, but lowering the minimum wage i think is could be a bad thing, we should just raise taxes on companies that export their jobs so it makes them similarly priced to american made goods, the big companies would not gain any or much money for having their factories in other areas.

i have a feeling this is going to haunt us in the next few years with a big recession or possibly a new depression if nothing changes anytime soon
 
  by: jager9x9   02/18/2007 07:59 AM     
  Lower the minimum wage  
 
and a lot of people send a higher percentage of their income on neccessary items (Food, rent, electrcity, ect.) and less on non essential items. Less people shop in stores that leads to cut backs there which means even less money being spent and so on.
 
  by: jaded fox     02/18/2007 10:39 AM     
  contempt alert: [S Americans invented Chocolate]  
 
@LondonOntGuy: It IS unsafe to drink the water, partially because of bugs, partially because of the heavy mineral content.

I suppose Chocolate has gone full circle and gone back to S America. Besides, I prefer Belgian Chocolate.
 
  by: redstain   02/18/2007 01:03 PM     
  Whole lotta bad economics. [AGGRESSIVE RANT ALERT]  
 
I'm not saying lower minimum wage and that's it. I'm saying lower *ALL WAGES*. If you just squeeze on strata or sector then you cause an imbalance in 'flow of wealth' and you're gonna get one of those gaps between rich and poor like the ones we deride in Saudi Arabia. We need a balance drop of our luxuries.

Let's face it, it's not their fault our goods are more expensive. No one will buy American unless it's *competative* with the rest of the world. Sticking artificial harnesses on the economy is avoiding the frying pan and going for the fire. Forcing our companies to "stay uncompetative" will cripple our products and kill our exports. That goes for aritficial 'taxes on imports'.

You can't have your cake and eat it. High or even Medium standards of living are subjective (and arguably, relative) terms.

* This standard of living is is mutually exclusive with a competative economy. **
* You can't have a great nation by maintianing fat a---- and baby-breeders on welfare **
* You want a competative country, Shut Up and start bleeding for it.
* Stop whining about: "They took our jerbs". 'Cos you're fat and out of shape!

Go out into the street and frog march a jobless guy into the nearest employment agency. And get out of my face.
 
  by: redstain   02/18/2007 01:19 PM     
  and another thing [CONTINUING RANT]  
 
Patriot? My Axx, more like politiains.

One of the things I hate is people blame others for their own mistakes. I hate it in slopey shouldered politicians. And I hate it in weasely, slopey shouldered malcontents.

You wanna be a patriot? Stand up and be counted, take responsibility; what are you going to do to improve matters?
* help a guy get a job?
* managers, stop handing out pay rises like candy (ESPECIALLY to yourselves).
* get your kids back indoor to do their home work, they're behind the mall smoking weed anyway.
* anyone without a job, thinking about a kid? "put that d*** down, step away, get a job or at least watch TV instead"
 
  by: redstain   02/18/2007 01:31 PM     
  Money isnt worth anything  
 
Messing with wages doesnt work.

Just before we sdtart, I'm a big fan of exploiting third world countries for cheap labour.

Anyway.


Ok I've got an idea that I see no problems with as of yet.
*********
Buy an economics book, you wont sleep for a week.

Perhaps if it seems plausible to everyone here, we should all try and submit it to our local lawmakers, etc.
*******
It doesnt, I'll explain why

I propose that a new law be made forcing all American-Owned companies to (at the very least) pay the American Federal Wage to ALL employees, regardless of which country they are working in. This would solve a few problems.
***********
If then problem is Americans own companies, yes that would solve it nicely.


1. Less companies would outsource...
***********
Perhaps, most would go bankrupt from foreign competition though

2. Those companies that do outsource would at least be providing decent wages to people who really need it!
***********
And?
Need is relative.
Personaly, I think I need a hyundai coupe more than someone from ethiopia needs food.


3. Companies who do outsource could still save money just on basic operating costs, taxes, and the fact that they'd still only be paying the Federal Minimum wage (and I believe that most factory workers in the US make at least a little over that figure).
**************
So no american jobs are actualy saved?

I think this plan has real potential, anyone else think it sounds good?
***********
It does, in theory, but it doesnt work.


@MOC
No doubt Hugo will start calling me a Nazi again, but hitler had a few good ideas, one of them was autarchy.
Translates roughly as autonomy, essentialy, Germany sold goods, or traded them, it didnt buy them.
Killed a lot of people, but turned them into the worlds leading military power in a few years.


shoezacks is right, stopping people from lowering cost of their products will crucify the economy.
**************
In that respect, yes


We can only do one/combination of three things, some of these are unpopular. Tell me if I'm wrong:
*************
well thats a given :P


1) make products that can't be copied by other nations & stay 5 years ahead of these nations.
*************
A japan based model


2) start to bring down minimum wage. Tax, enforce, encourage upper wages brackets to be brought down accordingly.
**********
See, the problem is, the people that earn millions, do so becuase they are worth them.
Take that away, they will leave and find someone else to pay them it instead.
The biggest mistake any "economist" ever makes, is thinking he fight the rich.

3) Invade another nations, force them to buy our products/sell us resources.
**************
The cause of all war, this one works too.


Let's face it, it's not their fault our goods are more expensive. No one will buy American unless it's *competative* with the rest of the world.
*********
Or inless you force them too

Sticking artificial harnesses on the economy is avoiding the frying pan and going for the fire.
***********
Can be

Forcing our companies to "stay uncompetative" will cripple our products and kill our exports.
************
Which is why the west is owned by China

That goes for aritficial 'taxes on imports'.
*************
Can work, although not in a trade model, see autarchy above.


Go out into the street and frog march a jobless guy into the nearest employment agency. And get out of my face.
**************
See, I knew there was a sensible person inside you somewhere,


I advise everyone to buy a good ground up economics book and learn it, amazing stuff.
 
  by: GogeVandire   02/18/2007 07:45 PM     
  ahh man  
 
cutting off jobs. thats scary. I would be ticked off as an employee :(
No money to support family, its sad. I feel sorry for the ppl who lost their jobs. But, will it work better thou under certain circumstances?
 
  by: @ngel   02/19/2007 06:56 AM     
  I got made redundant on a monday morning...  
 
...a few years ago.

Second person in the office and I was told by employer not to bother unlocking the shop. We were going through pay re-negotiations 'cos of lean times. But no-one saw it coming. The owners upped and left with the money.

I went home, felt like throwing up, by evening I drew up a plan of what had to be done next day. (Track down and shoot owners was a side note in margin but discounted it as whimsical).

If you got responsibilities and commitments, you can't b*tch about it - cos this is what separates men from sheep. I admit, I didn't have to worry about children then so, my condolences go to those out these who do.

5 weeks of 9-5 job hunting including the weekend later. I had sent out 10 sepeculative emails a day except on days I had interviews.

I've seen what being made redundant does to people who've been working in *same* company for decades does to other people. It's not pretty. Condolences, but time to get back out there.
 
  by: redstain   02/19/2007 09:36 AM     
  it happens  
 
When I was 17 I had a side job, the day before pay day (monthly) the owner emptied all the bank accounts, took all the stock (over night) and declared bankruptcy, then ran off to Ireland.

We all had a meeting, pitched in for new stock and re opened for the weeked, all got paid.
 
  by: GogeVandire   02/19/2007 12:30 PM     
  ours did something similar  
 
Declared his books first year and last year(as he was winding down; unbeknownst to us).

So as far as tax was concernerd, the tax office could only estimate how much business was made in the intervening years.

I am only speculating - you don't know who I am - he can't sue me.
 
  by: redstain   02/19/2007 03:34 PM     
  If you sell it here  
 
then you ought to have to make it here as well. Also, if these businesses would quit offering jobs and benefits to illegals then there would be no reason for them to cross the border. I say fine the hell out of businesses for millions and millions of $$$ who hire them and aid them being here. Take the money that we get in fines and build that wall.
 
  by: rickynlevy   02/19/2007 05:53 PM     
  outsourcing & border control: (different problems)  
 
@rickynlevy: Well, there you have it. The old illegal immigrants issue; I'll let you drum on about that.
* "they took our jerbs" blah
* "minutemen" blah
* "nevermind our economy is based on/requires an underclass and everyone's too proud to be paid that sh*t wage" blah
* immigrant's got that cushy job and I'm under misconception I would have been selected if he wasn't there" blah

Enjoy your own fantasy world. Bye.

=== === ===

Back to outsourcing and competing with the rest of the world.

Every nation needs imports. But it's a problem if no-one wants our exports to pay for our imports. Capice?

It doesn't matter if we don't outsource, if our wares are expensive, then the world will buy Japanese or German or Indian. Those immigrants you're talking about are the only ones keeping cost of production down.

The government's balancing between the fact 2006 we still owed 64% of our GDP and the fact we get paid too much (the dollar's too strong). Not just a case of "me, me, me".

Yeah, your job is a "Right". But competing is an "Obligation". Quid Pro Quo.
 
  by: redstain   02/19/2007 08:22 PM     
  correction:  
 
"are the only ones keeping cost of production down"

should be:

"are the HELPING TO KEEP cost of production down"
 
  by: redstain   02/19/2007 08:25 PM     
  Other considerations.  
 
I don't think this is just a "Mexicans get paid less" issue. Mexico is closer to where cocoa actually grows, and the more closely knit supply line could reduce costs.
"If you sell it here you should make it here"?
Hold on. Do you realize how many goods that you use every day are made in other countries? Do you know what the goods would cost if they were made in the U.S.?
Besides, outsourcing gives Mexicans jobs in Mexico, so they don't have to immigrate illegaly... isn't that what you wanted?
As to the wages paid, no one's forcing the Mexicans to work there. If they are willing to work for X amount of cash, then companies should be allowed to offer it.
 
  by: GuyFawkes   02/20/2007 11:08 PM     
  @Guy Fawkes - transport  
 
Transport isnt an issue really anymore.

Virtualy all fresh fruit/veg is flown half way across the world and into the UK's supermakets.
 
  by: GogeVandire   02/21/2007 10:58 AM     
  I'd be for this  
 
if I knew they weren't just going to exploit mexicans.
 
  by: youreoverhere   02/24/2007 09:47 PM     
  drybacks....  
 
I've been to Smith Falls. Its a nice little town. What a shame to think that the good burgers of that place fall on hard times because of the hard-nosed and impersonal policies of an accountant-run treat company. Is there any contradiction more evil that that of a a candy company that runs a heedless sweatshop and then outsources jobs?

The name for people who swim the Rio Grande is well known and considered to be a slanderous epithet. But I don't think that there is any term for companies who do this that could be too strong.

Now your kisses are gonna taste like dryback sweat.
 
  by: Rip Snorter   02/24/2007 10:38 PM     
  I sent this letter to Hersheys.  
 
I sent this email to info@hersheyspa.com They promise a 48 hour response to all email. I suggest you all do the same:

SO, Hershey’s is planning to move 1,300 jobs to Mexico? Marvel kills Captain America, and Hershey’s kills 1,300 American jobs. How about if I move my money and stop buying Hershey’s products? I buy American whenever possible. I do not shop at Wall-Mart or buy Chinese or other foreign products whenever I can. I would happily pay slightly more for a Hershey candy if I knew it was made in America, as always, instead of some cheap unskilled Mexican day laborer. You are willing to sacrifice American jobs, a cities livelihood, and quality control to hire cheap l labor in a country who has unsanitary conditions, poor quality. Mexico is notorious for diseased citizens. I am disgusted with Hershey’s and the behavior of the trust. I sincerely hope you reverse this horrible decision.
 
  by: BikerDude   03/08/2007 07:26 AM     
  Mexico noteriety  
 
Before I am attacked, I want to clarify: I like some parts of Mexico, but it is a widely known fact that fruits and vegetables imported from mexico has been the cause of hepetitis outbreaks in America and elsewhere. I used to live on the American side of the Mexican border,and I can testify to the unsanitary conditions in Mexico, with raw sewage flowing down the streets during even slight rainstorms. Mexican citizens are commonly not vacinated. The reason companies want to move to Mexico is not just for the cheap labor, but also the lax sanitation and employment laws. There is already enough disgusting stuff in chocolate without Julios finger or even feces ending up in it.
 
  by: BikerDude   03/08/2007 07:32 AM     
  Milton Hershey ... Founder of Hershey Corp.  
 
Anyone who has ever lived in or near Hershey, PA, knows the story of Milton Hershey. It was his mission to care for the people of the community. He only bought dairy products from local farms in support of them. He had housing built for his employees to raise their standard of living. It was the investment in the families of his employee's that built Hershey Corporation to what we know it today.

The news was shocking to me and I'm sad to say that as I walk thru the military commissary that I won't buy a Hershey Bar just because it's a Hershey Bar. Lord knows I don't need it either.
 
  by: Chris~n~Tammy   04/03/2007 04:40 AM     
  i think this is a double edged sword for people.  
 
People are angry that mexicans come looking for jobs in the U.S and then people are angry that companies are going to Mexico giving them jobs.

In reality its probably a good thing we are employing labor in Mexico giving them jobs, the better Mexico is off, the better we are.
In my opinion, Mexico could be the replacement of China for goods shipped into the U.S., if it were in good shape.

Its a lose, lose situation for Hershey's, people want their products cheap, but at the same time they want fairly well paid employed people here.
There would be an outcry of increase of prices just as there is an outcry for jobs being lost in the U.S.

Lowering the Min wage?
Do you really think the people that work there are getting paid minimum wage? how is that going to affect the work force of Hershey.
These people have retirement plans and everything, i don't think lowering the min wage would help any in this case.
I also don't see how this has to do with Bush, but just simply steps for a company to ensure its survival in the market.
Also keep in mind this is only 11% of Hershey's workfoce going to mexico, and a solid 80% is stil in the U.S and Canada.
Yes i said Canada too, its funny how people aren't complaining about Canada having some of the workforce, but when it comes to Mexico...there is a problem.

And there is also the question of 94% of Hershey came from the U.S before this announcement, so i wonder where the 6% is. So its pretty clear that Hershey has had outsourced jobs already, and they are just now taking advantage of it.

Here is the wages for hershey's workers.
"The lowest-paid union-scale plant job pays $15.20 an hour, he said. An average wage is $18.78 an hour."

Thats all i have for right now :o
 
  by: sp00ky187   04/03/2007 05:31 AM     
  why bother moving?  
 
They could make it easier by just hiring illegals and firing the Americans.
 
  by: henrybird   04/07/2007 02:21 AM     
  @henrybird  
 
you are talking about a city pretty much built around Herhsey, if they were to fire the locals and hire immigrants, then there would probably be riots.
 
  by: sp00ky187   04/07/2007 05:00 PM     
  Hershey moving  
 
If the Fair Tax Bill were passed many of the companies
moving out of the country and outsourcing would stay
 
  by: cookiepress   09/25/2007 03:47 PM     
  You are all missing the point  
 
Everyone keeps talking about taxing these companies and companies staying competitive in teh world and everything, but there is one simple fix. STOP paying these CEO's hundreds of millions of dollars to run the companies into the ground in the first place. I mean I am for the CEO getting a fair share, but too many companies anymore are paying Joe Ceo to run the company into the ground, then paying them another couple million to leave the company. Companies could cut costs, pay their workers a litte better and compete on a global scale.
 
  by: chris80014   10/27/2007 07:44 PM     
  @chris80014  
 
I agree with you. This is an old thread, but still relevant.
The US's biggest export is jobs and factories. What a shame.
 
  by: Lurker     10/27/2007 07:55 PM     
  balancing a leaky checkbook  
 
We all know if we keep hiring migrant workers, we'll be out of jobs.

We also accept, if our companies don't keep costs down and competative, we'll go under.

So what's the deal here. Two immutable edicts of fiscal logic. It seems like we're walking a wobbly tightrope between unemployment and national collapse. How are other nations surviving when we seem to be failing.

Raise taxes, help the poor, raise taxes, help the poor. We have bounced between the two tried and tested measures to stabilize our economy. But it's not working! These extreme measure *should* be working; it's worked for other nations. But for us it's a recipe for another disaster. Each bandaid we put on sends our economy careening into another economic chasm.

Ladies and Gents, there is a leak in our economy. For decades we have continually shifted the weights to the port and to starboard in an attempt to stop out boat from capsizing. But it's still taking on water. And us 'cooking the books' till next election is no longer hiding the fact our economy cannot keep haemorrhaging a massive deficit.

I think we all have theories where the spending is going.

But if we have a fiscal plan no more substantial than a 'new lick of paint', then our economy ... like our environment is f**ked.
 
  by: redstain   10/27/2007 09:06 PM     
  NAFTA  
 
Guess what, CLINTON signed the NAFTA agreement.....
 
  by: jrdpad1986   11/14/2007 09:01 PM     
  @jrd  
 
Christ here comes the "blame some high level
politician" argument. The fact is that the United
States is losing economic superiortiy due to more
regulation and legistlation against business
practices....(which is not a bad thing.) If we want to
stay strong and competitive in the coming decades
we must bring education and vocational skills
funding as our number one priority. Corporations
see the U.S. as an old, expensive market. They are
moving to survive in an increasingly more
competitive world.
 
  by: rj712   11/14/2007 10:17 PM     
  Rediculous!  
 
With all the people in the US that are job less already, I just don't understand the need for these huge Companies to just add on to this. As Manda was saying as she origanally answered my post on myspace about this subject, "This is the reason for the huge decline in our economy now." I guess because I'm not as involed in politics or news as I should be (as I think most Americans aren't?) that I miss things like this that are blatently harming us as a whole.
 
  by: Bloo_31   05/08/2008 05:22 PM     
  SAD  
 
I will no longer buy any thing to do with hershey again what a shame!!!!
 
  by: tawny54   06/12/2008 04:04 AM     
 
 
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