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07/27/2007 10:04 PM ID: 63846 Permalink   

Bush Subpoenas Michael Moore


Michael Moore reports he's received a subpoena from the Bush administration regarding his trip to Cuba for the filming of his movie "Sicko."

Moore went to Guantanamo Bay with three rescue workers from 9/11 to bring to light the fact that detainees there get eye care, medical and dental services, something not even the 9/11 workers can get back home in New York.

The distributors of "Sicko," the Weinstein Co., plans to donate 11% of box office receipts on August 11 to "help these workers and the other workers who need help."

    WebReporter: awhompbamboom Show Calling Card      
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so moore has been subpoenaed for showing how inadaquete healthcare in the US is compared to cuba and other countries.

hmmm gee... could they be looking for a way to silence one of their biggest critics... sounds like such to me.
  by: havoc666     07/27/2007 10:35 PM     
  The key statement here is  
"Michael Moore reports"
  by: seniorgato     07/27/2007 10:37 PM     
  It really doesnt matter  
if you dont like Michael Moore or not. At least he is bringing some public scrutiny to the US's horrible health care system. Sounds like this film p!ssed off some people in that swamp of corruption known as DC.
  by: slavefortheman     07/27/2007 10:43 PM     
Please quote passages word-for-word and don't add in info not in the source. I'm not sure if you started with one source and switched to another, but I had to rewrite sections 2 and 3.

  by: caution2     07/27/2007 10:47 PM     
I'd suggest you re-word the start of paragraph 2, 'to bring to light' would be more appropriate, to 'make light' of something means to make fun of/joke about it.
  by: StarShadow     07/27/2007 10:51 PM     
Didn't notice!
  by: caution2     07/27/2007 11:04 PM     
how can the Bush Amn subpoena anyone? Or maybe Moore was speaking metaphorically.
  by: John E Angel     07/27/2007 11:54 PM     
  He broke the law  
If you film yourself smoking pot and it gets out, chances are, you'll go to jail.

If you go to Cuba, film it, then release it nationwide in theaters I should expect that YOU WOULD GET BUSTED!!

Why is this a scandal? It's illegal to go to Cuba! Why should law enforcement turn a blind eye to someone blatantly breaking the law? Just because he's something of a celebrity? Oh please.
  by: losangelaskan   07/28/2007 01:49 AM     
Because the laws banning travel to Cuba are silly and outdated. Should be arrest people for working on Sundays? Some states still have that on their lawbooks.
  by: velger   07/28/2007 02:24 AM     
I hear what you're saying, however, it's still a law that is very much in effect. If you have issue with the law being in place, take it up with the law-makers, not the law enforcers.

The embargo on Cuba may be one that many people disagree with, but it has come up time and time again and it continues to be in place. While you may not agree with the embargo, it would reflect poorly on the law enforcers to not act on someone who is so blatantly breaking the law.

I am not crazy about the embargo, personally, but just because I disagree, doesn't make my opinion the "legal" one.

He broke the law. It is not a conspiracy that he was arrested. He knew what he was doing, and he's not above the law. In fact, I would not be surprised if part of his purpose was to instigate this "scandal". Michael very much enjoys being the "victim".
  by: losangelaskan   07/28/2007 03:11 AM     
  Any way you look at it, Michael wins  
Free publicity for Michael and his movies of a type money can’t buy. This guy is playing his 15 minutes of fame into 15 years. I’m impressed. Play the pinhead puppets of DC like a harp from hell Michael. I approve. Let's weigh the cases we have here....a criminal conspiracy between the AMA, the health insurance companies and the Republican Party and OMG! some guy going to Cuba for medical care. Looks a bit different in that light doesn't it. Yea, we need a trial alright, and Michael Moore should be on the witness stand. Asshats.
  by: valkyrie123     07/28/2007 04:46 AM     
  Moore should handle this subpoena ...  
... the same way Bush and his underlings are handling all the subpoenas flying their way these days -- just ignore it.
  by: l´anglais     07/28/2007 04:58 AM     
  I still think  
that Eric Swartz says it perfect in his Clinton Got a BJ jingle that was put up in the forums.

If I was Moore and there really is a subpoena I would tell Cheney he goes first :-p
  by: TaraB     07/28/2007 05:25 AM     
  Look Who's Coming to Dinner!  
Someone would be crazy to put Michael Moore on the stand. They should also subpeona all the politicians that endorse corrupted pharmaceuticals that legally torture hundreds of thousands of Americans with evil business practices.
  by: theironboard     07/28/2007 10:11 AM     
  Thanks, Caution!  
Sorry for the trouble; I was indeed working from two sources and should have quoted them both. Here's the other source:

Will be more careful in the future.
  by: awhompbamboom     07/28/2007 10:14 AM     
  Cuban Embargo  
With our freedom of speech and freedom of the press acts, it was written into that embargo, that, any reporter or other agent of a news source, may travel there for journalistic purposes.

At least Moore has a transparent platform to fight back from. We can all "see" what he was doing in Cuba, reporting.
So Mr. Bush and Cheney, did you really think that firing the US Attorneys that would have lobbied to prosecuted you by now for such heinous activities was gonna protect you from prosecution indefinitely? Don't forget, once your out of office, those doors you keep barricading closed will be opened.

And America ..... WAKE UP !
Where is all of the public out cry? Where is the Boston tea party? The Constitution was set up to give us all that power. The 3 Branch Government model was designed so this kind of thing should not be able to happen.

As a citizen I personally have a right to know what my government is up to. So far this administration has done nothing but hide facts, tell lies, kill innocent people, steal our freedoms and liberties, and, get rich doing it. The have created the The Divided States of Embarrassment.
Dick and Bush need to stay where they belong, in a bedroom, behind closed doors. Not in any form of public office.

  by: netwerk     07/28/2007 02:25 PM     
  Seriously? You aren't allowed to travel to Cuba?  
And no free health care system? The USA is sounding more like a third world country every day.
  by: CrisW   07/28/2007 03:33 PM     
"Seriously? You aren't allowed to travel to Cuba?
And no free health care system? The USA is sounding more like a third world country every day."

well my short simple answer is that at no point in my lifetime (since 1985) as the US ever represented freedom (and i'd argue that at no point during post-WW2; veitnam comes to mind)... only the illusion of THEIR freedom... as an american you have the right to travel abroad... but only where the US government approves of... you can say whatever you want, so long as you don't draw too much attention to yourself, today you say the wrong thing your a "terrorist", or a "terrorist sympathizer"... if not at very least your "un-american"... and somehow many americans like to believe and the government and media love telling you that the people do dislike or even hate america, don't hate america but rather the "freedom" they have, or to be more accurate in light of the current climate of the US the rights americans are supposed to have.
  by: havoc666     07/28/2007 04:04 PM     
  How should I feel?  
My wife can travel to Cuba, but I cannot? I see all these fantastic travel documentaries on Havana and I really want to go there-- great music, food, people, beaches, etc...

Is the Travel Channel even allowed to show these documentaries in the USA?
  by: theironboard     07/28/2007 05:50 PM     
i believe there are ways around the embargo... such as comming to canada and flying from here, alot of people in canada go to cuba every year for vacations and what-not... though this might be illegal as well for americans.

another thing isn't it funny that cuba produces the hold grail of cigars and that many politicians have been caught with them or otherwise known to smoke them... Arnold Schwarzenegger has even travelled to canada to get them.

isn't it also funny that the US hates cuba so much and wont trade with them but yet have no problem holding their illegal prisoners there.
  by: havoc666     07/28/2007 06:16 PM     
You have missed a bit of history. Guantanamo Bay Cuba was leased the the US Government after Cuba's war for independence from the Spanish. The perpetual lease was originally signed in 1903. The lease was reaffirmed in 1934 with the signing of a treaty between the 2 nations. This treaty granted a perpetual lease of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to the United States with, I believe, only 2 conditions. The only way the lease can be broken is if both governments decide to break it, or if the US abandons it. Since it is in a strategic location, no president has considered abandoning it. Since it isn't actually part of Cuba, it does not violate the embargo for the US base to be there. Every year the US sends its lease payment to the Cuban government. Since the Cuban revolution in the '50s, Cuba doesn't cash the checks. It has been said that Cuba, under Castro, did cash the first lease payment it received under Castro's rule.
  by: tomblik     07/28/2007 09:52 PM     
exactly what i was thinking.
so if i visit cuba will i be allowed to visit the US or no?
lets hope belize doesn't join the list too!
  by: DarkAngelJG     07/28/2007 10:10 PM     
Our civil liberties are being undermined by the Bush administration, that's why there hasn't been a new-age boston tea party just yet, so to speak. :)

Surely most of you have seen this?
  by: DekaR   07/29/2007 11:54 PM     
"Sorry for the trouble; I was indeed working from two sources and should have quoted them both. Here's the other source:
Will be more careful in the future."

You can't have two sources for a story. You can only have one source link.
  by: Lurker     07/30/2007 12:02 AM     
  Look! A Distraction!  
By focusing on the less important point of Moore going to Cuba Bush can distract from the most important point about the film. Whether you like Moore or not, it doesn't take a genius to see that the U.S.'s current medical system doesn't work. I hope that it doesn't take a movie to tell you that. Or maybe I do. I suppose there are a few fortunate people that haven't had to fight with insurance company. The point is that as an American I am ashamed that the people (in general) are so easily distracted by meaningless drivel while more serious events take place in our government.

And might I add, Moore took American Heroes to get the health care they much needed and deserved. What the hell is wrong with us?
  by: cryingstrings   07/30/2007 08:14 AM     
"Whether you like Moore or not, it doesn't take a genius to see that the U.S.'s current medical system doesn't work. I hope that it doesn't take a movie to tell you that"

But "free" medical care isnt a universal panacea either, come to the UK and visit the NHS.

"And might I add, Moore took American Heroes to get the health care they much needed and deserved. What the hell is wrong with us?"

Moore also splices together and edits interviews to support his arguement.
Were they ground zero workers?
I dont trust Moore to tell me that.
  by: Gogevandire   07/30/2007 09:56 AM     
I hope he [M oore] DOES ignore it [the subpeona]. Then they will have all the more reason to prosecute his sorry butt.
  by: LeePIII   07/30/2007 07:20 PM     
  Mabey I read a different article.  

He didn't go to Cuba, he went to Guantanamo Bay which is US territory.

Those he took with him were to witness the wonderful health care that is provided to those lucky people our government has ask to stay and chat for awhile.
  by: rustek   08/01/2007 02:29 PM     
is an ass-clown. I know we have issues with the health care system but I refuse to watch anymore biased crap that he puts together after Fahrenheit 9/11. If you have no idea what I am talking about watch Farenhype 9/11. Get the real truth about that Michael Moore documentary.
  by: theillusionary   08/03/2007 11:38 AM     
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