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08/06/2007 04:52 AM ID: 64040 Permalink   

US Soldier Receives 110 Years in Prison


Jesse Speilman is one of four US soldiers convicted for the crimes of rape, conspiracy to rape and break and enter with the aim to commit rape as well as four counts of felonious murder. Speilman received 110 years in prison, beginning on Saturday.

A Fort Campbell, Kentucky military court announced that Speilman was in the group found guilty of raping Abeer Kassem al-Janabi, and killed the 14-year-old Iraqi girl's family, in addition to setting ablaze the family home in Mahmudiyah, Iraq.

"I hate the government,...You people put him [in Iraq] and now, this happened," said Speilman's sister Paige. Speilman received the longest sentence of the group, a dishonorable discharge, demoted to enlisted man, as well as loss of pay and allowance.

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  It speaks for itself..  
Given the sister's ignorant remarks, it's not hard to determine what king of mindset her brother has. Yeah, blame the government for making him a raping murderer.
  by: Nooze Worthy     08/06/2007 05:06 AM     
  he will be out in 8 - 10 years  
that's assuming the sentence doesn't get reduced or overturned on appeal.
  by: landers     08/06/2007 06:25 AM     
  Maybe the sister has the same 'problem' ?  
That'd make sense on why shes so quick to blame the gov't.

That or its just bandwagon
  by: hl2k   08/06/2007 08:15 AM     
110 Years starting Saturday, well they could have counted for time served and that would only mean 198 years...

Landers, no it don't mean he will be out in 8-10 years. He is not going to some crippled overliberalized state or federal prison system, oh no, he gets to do his time the hard way, the military still has prisons and barring some blatant problem with his trial he will still be there in the 22 century (unless he manages to die first that is)
  by: FTFFTW   08/06/2007 08:55 AM     
Odd, unhealthy psychological enviroments cause mental issues in people.

Wow never heard that before, we had better study this rare phenomenon.
  by: splicer   08/06/2007 09:33 AM     
  Nooze Worthy  
Most people will defend family members like this. She isn't necessarily wrong, but neither is the prosecutor.
  by: QuestioningAnswers   08/06/2007 11:11 AM     
  On defending family members  
If my son (not that I have one, or that he'd be a marine) had done this, I'm be building the gallows for him.

This wasnt just after an IED they gunned down the Iraqi crowds, wrong, but understandable, this was the premeditated gang rape of 14 year old girl, wrong and entirely unforgivable.
  by: Gogevandire   08/06/2007 11:22 AM     
  I really  
Dislike comments like the one the sister made. As the US doesn't enforce conscription, technically, he put himself in Iraq.

Then, he chose to murder and rape.

I really don't see how the US government is responsible. If all their soldiers sat down one day and said "no" to killing people, the government themselves would be powerless.
  by: Maxx20     08/06/2007 11:29 AM     
  Unless of course  
Not everyone sat down,.

If entire conscript armies can be forced to charge trenches defended by heavy machine guns and barbed wire, what chance does a soldier in a volunteer unit have of saying no.
  by: Gogevandire   08/06/2007 11:50 AM     
  while reading the sistr's comment  
i thought the she was going to criticise the Iraqis in her next sentence.
It must have been traumatic to ee people dying and be the target of locals; but come on, he chose this job and could have simply refused to go like many others reported on Sn.
  by: DarkAngelJG     08/06/2007 12:47 PM     
  he'll be out in 10  
quicker if he's got friends who know GW
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 01:00 PM     
  Of course the army didn't make them do it.  
But it does chip away at their moral decision making process. Dehumanizing the enemy is an early step is a critical process. This often starts with labelling them is rag-head, brown-types.

Once the culture is there, the shooting, bayonetting, bludgenoning is just a natural and logical progression.

Remember, the concept of drill sargeants and training is to break the enlisted and remould them into a usable tool. People accept this because they want the life skills/pay/education funding/citizenship that comes in a trade-off.
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 01:15 PM     
Exactly. And new studies to back this up:
  by: QuestioningAnswers   08/06/2007 02:09 PM     
  @ QA  
:-( Can't view the article... apparently you have to be signed up. Stupid newspaper companies wanting my information... Looks like a good read though...
  by: h00ter86   08/06/2007 04:51 PM     
  Maxx20 Is correct  
Raping someone and murdering a helpless child is not part of war. It happens more than we think though. Some people really anger me, they enlist themselves to fight a war that they have no knowledge to why they are fighting it.
"uh 911" No that was Afghanistan. This war is a cover up, Bush made this bull crap up about weapons of mass destruction. WTf?1?! He just pulled that out of his ass. WE ARE IN IRAQ FOR ONE THING. OIL! We dont give a shit about how insane the Gov is in Iraq we care about our economy. Man Can't wait till all these politicians die off, then hopefully a better generation will take over and go after the right things.
  by: pineal420   08/06/2007 08:05 PM     
The economic survival of the US isnt a good thing for US politicians to go for?
  by: Gogevandire   08/06/2007 08:13 PM     
  Economic survival, good. Parasitism, bad.  
Economy is based on competition, management/stewardship of a company/nation.

It's not rampant defecits, embezzlement, corruption and nepotism. I know we'd nuke Japan again, if we thought it would save our auto industry. That's not now economy works.

Propping up shakey, doomed fiscal policies with bones of other nations.
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 08:36 PM     
  Economic Survival of Halliburton  
Have YOU noticed the economy improve in the last 5 years? Have gas prices dropped?

Whose pocket do you think this is lining? Trading in fear and hate is no way to justify a war.
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 08:49 PM     
  Guinea Pig  
We must not be dependent on freaking Oil in the first places. The burning of these fuels is just contributing to the Major Global Warming factor, instead of wasting money on this bullshit white man war we must use it to find better resources of transportation. It is 200 Freaking 7 and still we are burning Gasoline. Come on guys. It is our money being spent on the gas and like Red said have they dropped at all since we have been at war? Not at all. Use the money for something else, so many scientists out there that can change these disastrous ways of humanity yet they are too busy with other pointless inventions and accomplishments.
  by: pineal420   08/06/2007 09:05 PM     
2000 freaking 7* lol
  by: pineal420   08/06/2007 09:07 PM     
  @Goge: well hijacked  
How did this get from rape & institutional brutality/criminality to one of you attempting to justify a war?

No, on second thoughts, don't bother to answer.
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 09:39 PM     
  just re-read it all.  
Pineal had sidetracked it.
  by: redstain   08/06/2007 09:41 PM     
  by: GogeVandire   08/06/2007 10:41 PM     
Basically the studies proved that people are not in complete control over their own minds because of their subconscious programming. And because of this, they aren't even consciously aware that they're being influenced to do things.
  by: QuestioningAnswers   08/07/2007 12:06 PM     
  Good points  
about how the military dehumanizes soldiers and corrupts their civil judgment. But there are those people who are criminally inclined that make it into the armed forces. Who's to say that Jesse Speilman wouldn't have ended up raping some girl in civilian life had he not had he not become a soldier?
  by: John E Angel     08/07/2007 08:43 PM     
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