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10/16/2007 06:39 PM ID: 65703 Permalink   

US Patriot Missile Fired Accidentally

 

Doha, Qatar: The Pentagon announced that a Patriot missile was accidentally fired from Camp As Sayliyah. The spokesperson for the US base, Holley Silkman, refused comment, other than "We're investigating the incident, which happened last night."

There were no injuries reported after the missile landed in a farm area. The missile is alleged to have exploded in mid-air.

 
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  37 Comments
  
  Protocol?  
 
We don't need no stinkin' protocol. Just push the pretty buttons.

Blatant incinuition from me because of all the precise protocols that involved with launching ANYTHING in the military.

It's not like you left your car turn signal on.
 
  by: Discarded Vet   10/16/2007 07:05 PM     
  you really believe: "it was an accident"?  
 
Bombing of Al-Jazeera news station by precision missiles.
Accidental precision bombing of Chinese Embassy.
Accidental discharge whilst cleaning rifles around Native Americans.

It's just a matter of what they can get you to believe.
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 07:14 PM     
  Although I like crazy conspiracy nuts  
 
as much as the next guy, is it not conceivable that the thing got a false threat reading and fired?
 
  by: AnsweringQuestions     10/16/2007 07:41 PM     
  false threat  
 
The system is never FULLY ready to launch, it ain't SG1, human interaction is needed for a fire.
 
  by: Discarded Vet   10/16/2007 08:02 PM     
  @ redstain  
 
I hear what yer saying. But, they shot a farm? lol
 
  by: Discarded Vet   10/16/2007 08:03 PM     
  Although I like neo-fascists  
 
as much as the next guy, this action is provocative; letting off firecrackers a few hundred miles off of the Iranian coast.

It's about as innocent as "coincidentally" having "navy exercises" a few miles off the coast of China when the Taiwan thing was kicking off.
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 08:29 PM     
  I know very little  
 
about missiles n stuff except that they are AWESOME. But seriously how do you accidently fire one of those things? Did someone lean on a button or type a "0" which is for firing instead of a "1" which means dont fire? WTF? Maybe I should enlist so that when these things happen I'll completely understand:|
 
  by: h0tdamn365   10/16/2007 08:43 PM     
  "...off of the Iranian coast....."  
 
Ahh, see, this is what happens when ya drop out of school. I've heard of Qatar, but didn't think that's where it is.

Got-ya now. Yeah ....... very incitive.
 
  by: Discarded Vet   10/16/2007 08:44 PM     
  aaah  
 
next one is gonna be : sorry we accidentally launched a nuclear missile, wasn't our fault thought, damn computers !

 
  by: ProTesTa     10/16/2007 08:53 PM     
  It's had to be a missile base:  
 
because moving a fleet into persian gulf would not be an option for the forseeable future. Politically, and strategically.

I reckon the Quatari's are rueing the day now.
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 09:03 PM     
  One scenario  
 
Perhaps they were having an exercise, failed to put the computer into the correct mode, and when they fired the imaginary missile...

"Lt, what was that sound?"

Just a possibility. As to why it hit the farm, that was what was in it's trajectory after they destroyed it remotely, I assume.
 
  by: David M Barger     10/16/2007 09:18 PM     
  One fairytale is as good as another  
 
Another Scenario:

They wanted to send Ahmenijhad an express deliver of flowers. When the realised they sent a missile into the air, the detonated it immediately.

And as a way of apology, Bush and Cheney and Ahmenijhad had a three-way gay sex session - to make up.

Just as plausiable .. see?
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 09:40 PM     
  honest..  
 
They've posted up the youtube videos to prove it.

Dick and Bush: one night in Tehran
[grainy low-light footages]
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 09:45 PM     
  Based on past performance...  
 
There is no way a Patriot could hit anything.
 
  by: Major-General   10/16/2007 10:43 PM     
  based on current govt. performance  
 
Govt. shouldn't be given any sharp pointy objects.
 
  by: redstain   10/16/2007 10:53 PM     
  @Major-General  
 
Perhaps, since it did fall on a farm, they were attempting to prove that the Patriot could "hit the broadside of a barn", but alas, they failed even that task.
 
  by: Zpravodajec     10/16/2007 11:15 PM     
  On the patriot  
 
Firstly, Disc is right apparently, they always need a human to say fire, seems a bit pointless, but there you go.

As for hitting the broad side of a barn, well, they're a lot better than most studies give them credit for, sometimes.

A missiles flying at your house, patriot launches, knocks the missile off course and blows up your next door neighbour.
Did it succeed?
If your house is a battle ship or an airstrip and your neighbour is the sea/desert, then yes, it did.
If your house is a house and your neighbour is just your neighbour, then no, not really
 
  by: AnsweringQuestions     10/16/2007 11:45 PM     
  Oh Oh  
 
Oops!
 
  by: ichi     10/16/2007 11:47 PM     
  Just Wondering  
 
What if the missile was launched on purpose,and by some miracle hit its designated target,and exploded the same in the air,and we were fed some B.S. that Gomer accidently pushed the complicated launching sequence.
 
  by: ichi     10/16/2007 11:55 PM     
  patriot system automatic mode..  
 
the patriot system does have a full automatic(dalek) mode and can fire without any human intervention it does have manual and semi-automatic modes aswell, early accuracy wasn't great but that has massively improved with work on it in recent years
 
  by: tommyab   10/17/2007 12:04 AM     
  redstain  
 
wearing the tinfoil hat a little tight today are we?

http://www.robtex.com/...

The patriot is a surface to AIR missile friend. Don't get too excited. It has a self destruct function so that it CANNOT become a V2.
 
  by: jimmy344   10/17/2007 12:12 AM     
  @jimmy344: damn, your keen mind saw right thru me  
 
Yes, your incisive and unearthly intellect has exposed my logic as flawed. Flawed under the merciless and withering gaze of your analysis.

Hmm, but I have not said this was a first strike. To attempt a strike while Iraq, Afghanistan is unresolved would be worthy of a Darwin Award.

For the same reasons, we have not sailed out fleet into the Persian gulf.

I am talking about sabre-rattling as an overture to the first shorts.

"this action is provocative"
innocent as "coincidentally" having "navy exercises"


The pervious examples of actual airstrikes were examples of how the govt. couldn't be trusted to tell a shaggy dog story, let alone a honest one.
 
  by: redstain   10/17/2007 12:37 AM     
  "The patriot is a surface to AIR missile friend"  
 
Are you trying to be friendly? Or is that the usual disingenuous camaraderie you get from government ops, PAL?
 
  by: redstain   10/17/2007 12:45 AM     
  Thx redstain  
 
I only take offense to glaring ignorance of information due to a zealous mindset. Since you're keeping the answer to world harmony a secret and read the SECOND definition of sarcasm in the dictionary, I'll go easy this time. Ya know, they have places for you guys where you can actually spend your time helping humanity rather than dealing with the lesser minions of Satan like me. Maybe a non-profit in your local community would be a great start!!! <deleted by admin>
BTW thanks for the immediate DOUBLE post! Maybe less coffee or god forbid Sanka to soothe those raw nerves?
 
  by: jimmy344   10/17/2007 01:27 AM     
  Strategic Issue of Persian Gulf  
 
I am assuming that many of the soft targets in Iran are based inland. The way to get to this would be via the Persian Gulf.

The only problem is that - ignoring the obvious constriction point at Hormuz - the Gulf is a shooting gallery. Even tactical missiles can span the gulf, as can short range fighters. So the potential exposure would put placing a fleet there unprudent.

Which is why we have a missile base there. Our first line of defense .. and offense. Unlike carriers, Qatar cannot be sunk.

I wouldn't want to be a building insurer in Qatar though once the shells start flying.
 
  by: redstain   10/17/2007 01:53 AM     
  RedStain  
 
Alright alright calm down we understand your theory and were all capable of creating the same conclusion. Theres no need to yell at the top of your lungs.
 
  by: steme   10/17/2007 03:58 AM     
  I think I've still got a "SCUD BUSTER!"  
 
t-shirt somewhere in my footlocker. Or did I accidently fire it!? Hmmm
 
  by: Zmethod     10/17/2007 05:00 AM     
  I smell B.S.!.......  
 
Before the missile can be fired It requires 2 personel to similtaneously turn keys which are 3 metres apart.
Then each man has to open sealed satchels and enter the code within on a keyboard.
 
  by: cavador   10/17/2007 10:12 AM     
  Had Iran done that;  
 
we would be flying UAVs all over there right now. The UN would be demanding to do a quick inspection and FOX would be showing the Prez saying Iran was a threat.

I suppose it's true; you can't hear the outrage when you're 'in' the bubble.
 
  by: redstain   10/17/2007 12:14 PM     
  Cavador..  
 
Do you care to back up anything you just said lmao. And a movie name dosent count.
 
  by: steme   10/17/2007 06:56 PM     
  @cavador  
 
That's right.. They could have spilt a mug of coffee on it when the 'cup holder' malfunctioned.
 
  by: redstain   10/18/2007 01:38 AM     
  @cavador  
 
In case you are confusing your missiles.... The Patriot system is mobile and it doesn't take two people to launch them. The only missiles in the US arsenal I know of that require 2 people to launch are the Minute Man III and the Trident (ICBM and SLBM respectively) and we wouldn't put either of them in Qatar.
 
  by: testeng     10/18/2007 05:23 AM     
  @testeng: sooo many coincidences  
 
Of all missile bases; This one near Iran.
The Timing: When everything is inflammatory.
Then message: when this would be interpreted as sabre-ratteling
The convenieve: When it would be inconvenient to place the fleet there.
The support: testeng giving support it's 'possible' and 'plausible'.

... but no one *actually* thinks it's an accident... do you testeng?
 
  by: redstain   10/18/2007 09:20 AM     
  This is how screwed out media is: watch  
 
Google: Missile Iran and Qatar.
How many articles link Iran and the 'accidental' launch? Precious little.

So our news is being conscientious in reporting the news but conveniently left out the 'correlations'. The result? A lot of people; including SNers saying;

"so we launched, what's the big deal?"
Still trust McMedia?
 
  by: redstain   10/18/2007 10:04 AM     
  @redstain  
 
There is some interesting information on previous Patriot failures here (http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/... The information is outdated (by technology standards) but it does point out the inherent problems faced with with any complex military system.

In 2003, thee was a friendly fire incident over Karbala, Iraq. (http://goliath.ecnext.com/...

More information (that also offers contradictary info to the first link) can be seen here (http://www.fas.org/...

It all seems to point to a system that being called upon to do something that it is not quite capable of doing.

The friendly-fire incident involved a breach of fire protocol, so it would seem that is not at all unlikely to have been done again. Or it could be another of those wonderful system glitches.

Qatar is in close proximity to Iraq, so by that virtue, it is in close proximity to Iran. The fact that it was launched errantly, could have very little to do with its proximity to Iran, or the lack of media reports.
 
  by: Zpravodajec     10/18/2007 09:46 PM     
  @Zpravodajec: they are two different circumstances  
 
You comment suggests this blooper is similar to the blooper of the accidental downing of a Jet in Iraq. These cases are not similar.

The incident in Feb 2003 was in a time of WAR. The missiles acquired a definate lock and it was a case of a 'friendly fire/false positive'.

The Qatari incident was not in a time of WAR. The did not report a target lock. In fact, there was no reason to launch anything.
 
  by: redstain   10/19/2007 12:18 AM     
  An Erkle Moment  
 
Oops did I do that. Sorry Carl
 
  by: starmutt   10/19/2007 12:53 AM     
 
 
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