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10/18/2007 07:57 PM ID: 65752 Permalink   

Paradise for Sex Offenders


The Palace Mobile Home Park in St. Petersburg, Florida has the earned a reputation as a "paradise" for sex offenders. Of the 200 residents in the adults-only low income trailer park, 95 are convicted sex offenders.

With legislation in many areas of the U.S. dictating where sex offenders and predators can live, many see this trailer park as a paradise. It is located far enough away from places where children might gather to help prevent relapses.

Due to nature of the residents, there is a constant police presence. So far, there is only one reported case of re-offending. He was turned in to police by one of his neighbors, a fellow sexual offender.

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  Possible its a good thing?  
This might be a good thing, since theres no kids around and they all know what one another's going though this could help them get back to being a normal human being if thats possible

Or they just may form a evil cult of the damned to early to tell.

All kidding aside i am happy to see another offender turn in one that started to do it again.
  by: xloner12     10/18/2007 08:21 PM     
  Its all good...  
Until they leave the area and can't deal with children because they haven't learned to control their problem.

But we shall see if they just keep away from society.
  by: splicer   10/18/2007 09:27 PM     
I agree. As much as I hate sexual predators, fact of the matter is they will end up back in society and even sexual predators have rights. It's not like the police can put up a razor wire fence and keep them in the trailer park.

As much as everyone would like to see a sexual predator fry or spend life in prison, it doesn't happen like that.

Just keeping them away from childern is going to make it worse then they do run into childern.
  by: kristmen   10/18/2007 10:41 PM     
Not really, consider genuine alcoholics and alcohol - exposure at any time is going to be just as bad, these people are CHOOSING to live away from the problem. I say, let them be and let them have what happiness they can for doing the right thing.
  by: lauriesman     10/19/2007 01:52 AM     
  What they need  
Is a nice island with plenty to occupy them in the way of work it would make them feel of some use instead of being allowed to think to much, wear them out with work that’s what I think.
  by: captainJane     10/19/2007 06:40 AM     
  Where are these people going to go?  
As a sex offender in Florida, I point out that sex offenders can NOT live within 1000 feet of any school, park, playground or other place where children congregate. It really is difficult to find any housing that complies with this. This bunches sex offenders into small unincorporated areas of counties because other options are not available. We are also subject to the toughest restriction and registration laws in the country. And we are being punished - rather than helped - by the system LONG after our release and rehabilitation has been successfully completed. "Paradise" is hardly the word for it as they have nowhere else to go.

I, as a released and successfully rehabilitated member of society,
I am still subject to all the places I cannot go, things I cannot do. Subject to new laws being created every day for the rest of my life.

In the city of Tampa, a new law provides for criminal punishment of landlords who knowingly rent to sex offenders. How is this allowing us to "live at liberty"

Does incentive like this really help us live in society? Or are we forgetting what we are trying to accomplish here? The ultimate goal is fewer sex offenses against children right? Not making laws that are going to make this MORE likely to happen.

As far as the "island comment" Florida's position on this is "It is not our responsibility to tell sex offenders where they can live, but only to tell them where they cannot live"

Is it really constructive to bunch us all up in one place? Having to be around it, I can say that this can act like a magnifying glass and increase the problem in a given area.

Please comment.
  by: tasccole   10/19/2007 04:23 PM     
  @tasccole: a couple of questions  
Why aren't you in jail?

Nothing personal, heck I'm just a handle on the internet. But if the state sees fit to keep tabs on you 'in perpetuity', why aren't you behind bars?
  by: redstain   10/19/2007 05:11 PM     
I did my time, I have completed probation, I have successfully completed rehabilitation and I have followed the law ever since. At this point I try to be the most productive member of society that I can, and make the most of my life. I work every day. I come home at night and be the best person I can be.

Again what are you trying to accomplish here by putting sex offenders away for life? Is this going to make your kids any safer? A sex offender is listed on a state website as driving this car, here is what he was charged with, lives at this address, and here is his picture. You can tell your kids, hey if you see this guy, run! But what about the guy on the corner who hasn't been caught yet? The reoffense rate for sex offenders is much lower than the rate of new offenses being committed per the same number of people. Wouldn't you rather know where we live than not?
  by: tasccole   10/19/2007 06:29 PM     
  This sounds like a leper colony to me  
I had hoped we as a society had evolved beyond “banishment” but I guess not. Back to the 10th century and the dark ages. 1000 years of evolution down the crapper. What “pariah” will we attach the scarlet letter to next? We gotta have someone to blame all of our shortcomings on, we sure as hell can’t accept any responsibility for the ills of society, we’re all just victims.

Kudos to you tasccole. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
you are one of the 95% of sex offenders that does NOT re-offend. I used to be a prison Chaplin so I know what you are up against. Good luck to you and may the Goddess Bless.
  by: Valkyrie123     10/19/2007 08:26 PM     
Lists like this are for fascists. I am not kidding.

If you (speaking to everyone in general) don't believe in the justice system then just say so and whip out the nooses, start black-listing anyone who offends your sensibilities, start burning crosses, brandishing pitchforks, gassing pickpocketers, and supporting vigilantism.

I HOPE that one day the American society will get over their sexual appetite for underaged children-- it's out-in-the-open with such pap as MTV, YouTube, and tv shows like 'Saved by the Bell'. You know what I mean.

It's a cultural disease that can be stopped, but people insist on illegally punishing the reprobated (is that the correct word for someone who has completed a prison sentence and undergone rehabilitation)?

The justice system seeks to punish AND fix the problem--- these lists are a weird symptom of a sick sick sick society.

I don't know about the 95 percent of offenders who repeat their crimes... seems illogical to me. Wouldn't that mean that 5 percent of the people on the list are the ones living in these Palace Mobile Home Park. Where do people come up with these statistics?
  by: theironboard     10/19/2007 09:03 PM     
  double standard  
You know what is sick...the double standard.

I remember one guy got put in prison for 10 years for taking pictures of cheerleaders as they jumped in the air, taking panty shots and such and selling them on the internet to pervs.

Granted that is nasty and a criminal offense...

But A) those cheerleaders were showing off at a game in real life but considered okay.

Society does this often with double standards. You think how many underage girls are dancing around sexually with scanty clothes on and sell sex in music videos.

We have folks like Britney Spears who before they were old enough were a sex symbol.

But if a guy told a 16 year old to put on a sexy school girl outfit and dance around he's going to jail.

But it's perfectly okay to broadcast it to millions of homes on video tape with some music using sex to sell.

In fact it seems if you put anything on video it's legal.

You can get busted for buying a hooker for money but it's perfectly legal to pay a model to make a pornographic movie.

You are talking the same state that stakes out John's and prostitutes and goes through great lengths to try to stop it is the same state that makes the most pornography, California.

LA is the home of prostitution arrests yet when on video tape for money it's perfectly legal.

Double standards are out of control.
  by: shawn1flog   10/19/2007 10:32 PM     
  @ theironboard  
You have this statistic completely backwards. The stat is that 95% of convicted and released sex offenders DO NOT repeat their crimes.

When compared to the general population, the reoffense rate for sex offenders is much lower than the rate of new offenses being committed per the same number of people.
  by: tasccole   10/19/2007 10:35 PM     
Even if they have done something terrible, really terrible they should have some place to go. Who knows, they might get better and can life a normal life someday.
  by: iBye   10/19/2007 11:31 PM     
Ah. perhaps I am victim of the stereotype that sex offenders always repeat their crime.... it sure seems that's what people always say-- well, that and the incredibly hypocritical statement that they ought to be killed, etc... America is nuts.
  by: theironboard     10/19/2007 11:43 PM     
"When compared to the general population, the reoffense rate for sex offenders is much lower than the rate of new offenses being committed per the same number of people."

Perhaps this is directly related to the fact that sex offenders are so highly monitored. If other types of offenders were made to endure that is required of sex ofenders, then maybe the reoffense rate for other crimes would be reduced as well.
  by: Zpravodajec     10/20/2007 12:03 AM     
"I, as a released and successfully rehabilitated member of society,
I am still subject to all the places I cannot go, things I cannot do. Subject to new laws being created every day for the rest of my life.
poor you, unfortunately for you actions have consequences. you should and will have the label "sex offender" for the rest of your life, just as your victim or victims have to live with what you done for the rest of theirs.

and yes it is constructive to keep you all bunched up together as its easier to keep tabs on you, youve already proved you cant be trusted and due to the seriousness of your crimes its not worth the risk to just let you stroll back into society.

If you dont like it why dont you go for a brisk walk under a bus and save the state some money. Then you would be helping society.
  by: bungholio   10/20/2007 06:12 PM     
  I think  
That the lot of you need to re-evaluate your standpoints. If you're convicted of raping a girl who actually consented to sex in the first place, but cried wolf, you get the sex offender label. Now granted some people knowingly do it and intend on it, but then I do agree that they can br rehab'd. I'm a fan of the 2 or 3 strike rule, that way reoffenders actually face proper punishment as it wasn't just an accident.

Bungholio, I think your comment was in poor taste and you should give the guy a chance, he admits to doing something wrong, thats something not many people would openly admit to considering the stereotype. That takes balls and I respect that, despite any misdeeds s/he has done in the past.

Anyways, I don't see how this means that they are in a paradise, 'normal' people want to push sex offenders into a corner and out of their backyards, so that seems to have happened here. A paradise would constitute that they could re-offend at leisure. So in that case I think it was poorly titled.
  by: hl2k   10/21/2007 02:13 AM     
I was never trying to defend any of my actions in the past, nor was I trying to make anyone feel sorry for me. I was not complaining, I was stating fact. To try to blame this on anyone but me would be wrong, because I alone am responsible for my actions. I never asked for anyones sympathy. I must sleep in the bed that I have made for myself. I know this. Your comment of "poor me" was out of taste.

Although I will fight for your right to have your opinion, I respectfully disagree with you. Bad actions do not make me a pad person. Just one that has made some poor choices.

I would also like to thank everyone for their support, and words of encouragement in this thread. I was pleasently surprised.
  by: tasccole   10/21/2007 03:27 AM     
Good name you picked for yourself...
  by: LeePIII   10/24/2007 08:01 PM     
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