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10/25/2007 01:14 AM ID: 65903 Permalink   

Prisoners Choose to Save Prison From Fire Rather Than Escape

 

Norway: Prisoners from the Arendal Prison have chosen to fight the flames rather than escape when a fire broke out. By the time fire crews arrived the prisoners had rescued another prisoner who had been in danger and extinguished the blaze.

The prison hosted a party to say thank you to the prisoners. Prison guard Daniel Trollsas said that the incident showed there are many "good and reasonable" people in prison and recounted another incident where a prisoner saved his life.

"We couldn't let such a nice prison burn down. I've done time in a closed prison, I wouldn't wish that on anyone," said Ronny Stenberg, one of the prisoners who helped bring the fire under control.

 
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  Good for these men  
 
I think they should have their sentences reduced to time already served for their voluntary act of public service.
 
 by: white albino   10/25/2007 02:02 AM     
  i said the same thing  
 
about the 2300 California state prisoners helping with the fires out there...
 
 by: ladiedragonfli   10/25/2007 02:05 AM     
  THey are there to pay a debt to society  
 
and rehabilitate. If they are willing to save someones life at risk of their own, and fight fires sounds to me they are pretty rehabilitated or at least well on track. Helping out with other fires would definetly pay their debt to society. Good to see them trying to turn their life around.
 
 by: ssxxxssssss   10/25/2007 02:22 AM     
  yeah  
 
but in norway, you go home for the weekend, of course you would save it. The one dude commented that he spent time in a "closed" prison and it wasn't fun. This was obviously one of the many "open" ones that let your murderin' ass out on the weekends. True, if you don't believe me lookup the band "mayhem" from norway, same thing happened to a bunch of members of that band.
 
 by: meshuggahfan   10/25/2007 05:10 AM     
  Do they get free cable?  
 
If so I'd save the place too =]
 
 by: Zmethod     10/25/2007 07:34 AM     
  well  
 
if they wouldn't make the prison so damn comfortable, give them really good meals, cater to them, give them internet, TV, and ect. Perhaps they would think twice about going to prison in the first place.

Prisons should not be fun. They should get out thinking and telling everyone how bad it is, vs saying how good it was.

I know what is right and wrong. I believe 99% of the population also knows. I spent the night (or 2) in jail and I realised it was not for me. But you know what, it was not as bad as I thought it would be. It should have been a lot worse! Just my 2 cents.
 
 by: slayer06   10/25/2007 07:37 AM     
  I'd  
 
like to know what their reoffence rate is compared to tougher jail systems. I hardly think living by the law of tooth and claw for x years makes for a civilised person when you release them.
 
 by: ixuzus  SuperVisor   10/25/2007 08:05 AM     
  Study  
 
A study was released somewhere in feb of 2005, which stated that crime rates in countries with lower punishment were lower than in countries with high punishment. If I have the time, I'll look it up.

So, by the logic of the study, repeat offenses should be lower in a system with lower punishment and a bigger focus on rehabilitation.
 
 by: Zygo   10/25/2007 08:48 AM     
  But is it the chicken or is it the egg?  
 
As sentances get easier and shorter in the UK, crime rates moved up.
Markedly so.

Its hard to compare Norway to Chad to because Norway isnt Chad.
Other factors apply.
 
 by: AnsweringQuestions     10/25/2007 09:31 AM     
  @AnsweringQuestions  
 
you'd also have to factor in what counts as crime in norway and britain. countries like the uk and usa have more laws against drugs than scandinavian countries, which is a major factor when figuring crime rates.
 
 by: ManilaRyce     10/25/2007 10:06 AM     
  @Zmethod  
 
You party animal!
You'd save any place that has a titty bar and a steak dinner!
 
 by: white albino   10/25/2007 10:44 AM     
  Another view  
 
What if they did run?
They'd be caught eventualy.
And sent to one of those hard core pound me in the ass prisions.

Which, if their prison got burnt down, they'd possibly go to anyway,
 
 by: AnsweringQuestions     10/25/2007 03:16 PM     
  Rehabilitation vs Retribution  
 
Norway's penal system focuses on rehabilitation? Well you have your difference right there.

Our penal system focuses on retribution and segregation from the rest of society.

You want proof? Listening to some of the comments on what we should do to law breakers will suffice.
 
 by: redstain   10/26/2007 04:07 AM     
  A semi-informed perspective  
 
Having worked at a federal correctional complex with low, medium, and maximum security compounds, I can say there's a big mix of individuals. Some of the guys in there made one mistake in the past that screwed them over for life (and they regret it), and some of the guys... well, I'm ashamed to even share the continent with them.

I wouldn't say that these guys actions immediately opens them up for early release, but I think it should provoke an evaluation of those involved to consider moving them to another step (ie: halfway house, house arrest, etc).

 
 by: ID10T16   10/26/2007 06:29 PM     
  @Slayer  
 
"if they wouldn't make the prison so damn comfortable, give them really good meals, cater to them, give them internet, TV, and ect. Perhaps they would think twice about going to prison in the first place."

Why do people think prison is a vacation? So prison can offer 3 hots and a cot, internet, and t.v. to a criminal. I've done 18 months and found far it from being paradise. Where should I start? I didn't get to see any family. I didn't get to watch t.v. because people are more into watching shows like Cops and Jerry Springer. The meals were horrible. When I worked outside the prison gates, I had to bend over and cough to come back in. There were guards that went on the occasional power trip. I had to be on guard 24 hours a day for other inmates playing the power struggle game. I lived in a 8 by 10 cell with someone else. Prison was a harsh reality for me. I don't hardly ever complain about it because it was my fault I was there in the first place. However I thought I would add my 2 cents on experience.

One last thought....I would rather be homeless and on the street then in a prison.


 
 by: MinorThreat75   10/27/2007 10:52 AM     
 
 
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