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12/14/2007 10:53 AM ID: 67152 Permalink   

Couple Suffers Nightmare as They're Attacked 230 Times in 4 Years


David and Jill Walsh from Wickford in Essex have been living in 'hell' for the past 4 years after Irish travellers set up an illegal camp near their £220,000 home.

In 4 years they have suffered gunshots, death threats, intimidation, trespass, littering and abuse from their new, illegal neighbours. Police have dealt with 12 'major' incidents including gun battles and stabbings.

The situation is now so bad that postmen refuse to deliver and utility workers require a Police escort. Faeces and dead animals have also been left at the couple's property. Jill Walsh: "We put all our savings into this house."

    WebReporter: Maxx20 Show Calling Card      
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makes me sick. They should raise a militia and burn this scum out. I spoke to a chap at the petrol station where I worked once, he told me how he set fire to a field with gypsies in when they threatened his wife. I'm usually not one for acting violently against others, but for gypsies, I'd make an exception.

From source:
Superintendent Glenn Caton said: "Unfortunately, this diary is an accurate picture of what they are facing and my heart goes out to them."

*No one* in this country should have to live like that. It's thoroughly disgusting.

The reason Irish travellers are here? Ireland's Public Order act... "a person without the consent of the owner, shall not enter or occupy any land or bring on to that land any object which might either damage the land or effect any amenity attaching to the land or prevent other people using the land".

Section 24 to be precise.

Damned right too, these people are nothing but vermin who wreck the lives of decent upstanding people.
  by: Maxx20     12/14/2007 11:06 AM     
I'm really glad we don't have gypsies.

Since they're there illegally and making threats, shouldn't the police be able to do something about this?
  by: Svengali   12/14/2007 01:01 PM     
How do you send a court summons to an address that doesn't exist (because it's illegal)? Equally, said summons would never be delivered because postal staff are too scared to enter the area. It takes an army of Police to deal with these people, they're above the law and they know it. That and they have 'human rights' irrespective of whether they act like human beings or not.
  by: Maxx20     12/14/2007 01:06 PM     
  @ Maxx20  
"*No one* in this country should have to live like that. It's thoroughly disgusting."

No-one in any country should have to live like that!!
  by: Dook   12/14/2007 01:17 PM     
Very good point, totally correct.

Mods: I just noticed an 'i' missing from 'Times' in my title, could someone fix please? Cheers :-)
  by: Maxx20     12/14/2007 01:27 PM     
Couldn't the police go in and threaten them to be taken to jail if they don't move on? Do you really have to send a summons to them in order for the police to handle the matter? After they disperse, post officers there until it becomes too much of a nuisance for them to stay there? It just seems so baffling to me that this problem can't be handled?
  by: Svengali   12/14/2007 01:32 PM     
  I Fooking ate Pikeys!!!!  
Pikey scum!!! Kill them all!!!
  by: m4cro_   12/14/2007 02:16 PM     
Courts take time. These people would be bailed to appear before a judge, they'd just move on, then wouldn't appear in court, Police would be sent to get them and they wouldn't be there anymore. They also have 'human rights' which means that although their presence is illegal, they have the 'right' to be there. This meshes into the story I wrote up about the EU treaty yesterday. euro-crats can over-rule UK courts, so, our judges say 'illegal' EU trumps them with 'human rights' and they stay.

So far as the criminal activity is concerned, the Police are often scared of these people. There are a lot of them and they're intensely violent. I heard a story (off a mate) where Police showed a man his stolen car on a gypsy encampment. They said to him, they had located it but couldn't justify the huge resources and injury to their officers of retrieving it.

Even raiding these encampments risks injury or worse to the Police, then witnesses to the crimes are threatened by other gypsies. If you stand in court and testify against one of these people, what the couple in the story are suffering would look like a picnic. Read "gun battles and stabbing" as 'result of challenging them'.

People fear these groups and with good reason. We need strong laws, stronger punishment and army intervention. None of which the politicians have the balls to do.
  by: Maxx20     12/14/2007 03:04 PM     
Wow... that's uhh... messed up? Something really needs to be done about them...
  by: Svengali   12/14/2007 03:10 PM     
  Sounds like  
The UK needs a right to bear arms (under the where we Americans got the idea from) and what is known in someplaces as a "Make My Day Law". Of course actual jail sentences would help, but that would require treating criminals as though they had committed crimes.
  by: Major-General   12/14/2007 03:26 PM     
  I can not imagine  
this without reason but I feel sorry for them.It must be terrible to live there.
After all some time they have to move elswhere.
  by: vizhatlan     12/14/2007 04:11 PM     
  Why didn't they just sell up and move on?  
Why after 4 years are they still living there?

If it becomes obvious that the gypsies aren't going anywhere and they are causing that much trouble for your family, for safety reasons alone, I would have moved out of there years ago.

It's a shame our government and police forces are so incompetent that they can't sort this out.

  by: sparky_fox   12/14/2007 04:46 PM     
  They should be happy  
After all, all those gunshots could only be coming from police defending them from those criminals. Because no one except police have guns in the UK. I'm sure they're glad they're not legally allowed to defend themselves from the intruders.

Its stories like this that give the stupidity to the "ban all guns and we'll be safer" morons.
  by: brinlong     12/14/2007 04:49 PM     
errr... whos gonna buy it? You'd have to beg someone to sell to. They'd be lucky to get half what its worth with the squatters there. "Over heres a full bath, over theres the pikey gun battle, every day at 11 sharp."
  by: brinlong     12/14/2007 04:51 PM     
  The word pikey  
its illegal too call them that

or so it seems.
  by: Jammy-Doger   12/14/2007 04:59 PM     
  how can i get a hold of them?  
i got guns, a small tactical squad and im up for hire. and don't tell me they're dangerous, cause my 7.62 rounds are a little more dangerous.
  by: spun47x   12/14/2007 05:42 PM     
as brinlong said, the property is worth nothing. In the source it suggests that it's halved in value and the couple put their life savings into buying it. That's it for them, they don't have a choice.

Jammy: yes, their 'human rights' it's scary isn't it? I wonder who's looking out for the human rights of the couple though... oh yeh, no-one.

spun47x: I would never advocate violence but I can pretty much guarantee you and your 'tactical squad' would be hailed as local heroes. You'd have to do the business covertly though, while the Police can't do anything to the gypsies, you're guaranteed they'd arrest anyone who dared defend themselves or this defenceless couple.

My heart really goes out to them, but what can they do? They're victims of circumstance and poor government.
  by: Maxx20     12/14/2007 06:01 PM     
I never said they wouldn't loose money on the sale of their property, I was just saying that you can't really put a price on your health and that whatever the cost it would have been better had they chosen to move.
  by: sparky_fox   12/14/2007 06:01 PM     
oh, dont worry, the only proof that will show we were ever there, will be the blood of gypsies and a great fire!
  by: spun47x   12/14/2007 06:19 PM     
  Family Project  
They should set up bear traps and spring guns in the yard and sit in the window with BB/pellet guns so they can shoot the crap out of anything moving in their yard. Might as well get some fun out of this f'ed up situation.
  by: h0tdamn365   12/14/2007 07:01 PM     
heres some advice for them.
1 inbreed remover kit will be needed ingredients.
1 ligther
1 can of petrol
1 mask
1 wake up call at 3 am
some dead burnt inbreeds.
these red headed freckled inbreeds really bother me
  by: stonedwookie   12/14/2007 10:16 PM     
In a perfect world you can't put a price on your health. Unfortunately, this world is far from perfect, and to get by sometimes you have to do things which aren't particularly sound for your health.
  by: velger   12/15/2007 12:04 AM     
  Just call Bush Up.  
It seems he likes to deal with other countrys problems before ours. Plus it will be quick. One carpet bomb run should take care of it.
  by: AAXEL21   12/15/2007 02:57 AM     
Snatch is a hilarious movie.
This story is not.
  by: aerise   12/15/2007 05:46 PM     
  our coutry only protect...  
the people that commit the crimes and the victims just gets kicked in the face everytime.
  by: captainJane     12/15/2007 06:53 PM     
they should send the army to kill the people there >:-(

then we will have a safer place!
  by: bugmenot   12/15/2007 11:19 PM     
Although I must stress my disapproval of violence and destruction, I think in this case, your suggestion is positive.

It's a sad day when the use of 'mercenary' groups is essential to anyone to guarantee their own safety. Let alone in the 'developed world'.

However, these people are truly defenceless, the government has failed them completely (refer quote: "Unfortunately, this diary is an accurate picture..."). It has always been my belief that once the law has failed, there is no recourse but to act outside it. For that reason I think spun's suggested course of action is a good one. Food for thought for the Brits.
  by: Maxx20     12/16/2007 01:01 AM     
  the sad thing is...  
if locals did rally and burn the scumbags out, over the next few weeks that area would probably be filled with practically every gypsy illegally camping in england. all looking for revenge.

england is now bordering pathetic, it is run by middle class liberal idiots who havnt got a clue. The justice system is ridiculus and commands no respect and offers no reassurance.

I would love it if the average man and woman in england took to the streets in protest about the way our country is being run. but it wont happen
  by: bungholio   12/16/2007 01:35 AM     
  Target Rich Environment  
when all the gypsies get in one place....

F**k 'em.
  by: LeePIII   12/18/2007 06:32 PM     
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