10-Year-Old Boy Hangs Himself after Transgendered Revelation
A ten-year-old boy in from Intake, Doncaster in the UK has hanged himself after revealing to his mother that he wanted to become a girl, his inquest was told.
Cameron McWilliams, who liked wearing girl's underwear, had expressed wishes to start using make-up mere days before hanging himself, it was announced in the hearing.
The boy's 31-year-old mother remained open-minded about his desires to express himself, even purchasing female underwear purposefully for her son. She refuses to believe he intentionally committed suicide. The inquest was adjourned to a later date.
I guess it's just another one of those cases where no-one will ever really know his motive behind it, unfortunately.
I'm not too sure if I subscribe with the parents believing it was accidental, although I guess it is a possibility with him being so inquisitive about the subject of hanging prior to his death.
this would be a pretty difficult thing for a 10 year old to handle without serious support and intervention to help her. Sad. As nasty as the world is to trannys she might be better off, and that is even sadder. It really says something about the world we have created.
and I know that we all do it from time to time, but I think a little sensitivity about this wouldn't go amiss. This is a real tragedy, the kid was only 10 and clearly was having a hard time reconciling his feelings.
The above post hits the nail on the head for me. I'm truly surprised at the number of people who can nonchalantly joke about things like this really, with quite cruel jibes too.
Have people really become so desensitized to these happenings? Or is it because the story involves someone transgendered? I'd wager the tone here would be different if the story just highlighted that a non-transgendered hung himself.
am pretty sickened by some of the comments and the general lack of sensitivity shown here.
This was a 10-year-old boy who was clearly going through a very traumatic and confusing time. This kid must have felt so helpless and trapped, like he had no way out. It's really sad for someone of such a young age to feel that the only way out is to end their own life, for them to think that nobody can help them and they are on their own is just so sad.
I think some of the above comments are posted by people who have never lost a loved one themselves, or felt sadness. (Hopefully) When they lose someone close to them, they won't be joking anymore.
Part of me is thinking that this is a huge tragidy and that no child deserves to go like that.
The other part is saying that this is hardly a loss considering.
The mother was so accepting she even bought him panties to wear, this makes me wonder if stronger role models might have helped this kid rather than 'support'.
Right, the general consensus here is those who make jokes & those that feel they are insensitive.
I will admit, they dont know the person personally so really they shouldnt be making such remarks BUT, and heres where it get's confusing.
Alot of people, especially those in the forces, use such black humour to get by in every day life. Its a defence mechanism for those of us who cant cope any other way.
So there it is, I see both sides of the fence & both are right :)
"The other part is saying that this is hardly a loss considering."
"Considering" what? That, since he wasn't your average white bread, cookie-cutter stereotypical male citizen, he couldn't have contributed anything to society? Or, "considering" your prejudice which has you arbitrarily devaluing the lives of some people?
I don’t see how you could call abusing a dead 10 year old with gender dysphoria a “defense mechanism”. This 10 year old didn’t do anything to assault or harm anyone. I would call this asinine behavior an “offense mechanism” though. It seems to be the way ignorant assholes deal with anything they don’t understand and are afraid of. From what I’ve read, gender dysphoria is not a communicable disease, so relax, if you weren’t born with it, you will never get it. Those born with it could use all the help and support you can give them. It’s a butt ugly world out there and it is up to each and every one of us to make it a better place for everyone. I have yet to read a story about a tranny attacking a straight person because of their sexual orientation yet every week I see another story about a tranny being murdered by a straight person because of his/her sexual orientation. Are straight people that insecure? Here’s last weeks tranny murder, 15 years old: http://www.latimes.com, This needs to end. Your ignorance is not bliss for your victims.
Oh I apologise for thinking to human race would be better off without certain elements in it.
This kid may well have contributed, he could even have invented something truly wonderful, but the point is I don't care because his genes are obviously faulty and I don't want them in the gene pool.
Anyone else who has faulty genes should not be in the gene pool.
Eventually the benefits of selective breeding would show through, but since as a race we show compassion for even the most miserable of lives (Not directing that at this kid in the story) we will never know.
Oh and instead of accusing me of devaluing this kids life why don't you tell me why his life was as valuable as it would have been had he not been broken in the head. I think you are over-valuing his life.
(By the way I do feel sorry for the family etc, losing any child is very harsh)
I've honestly never read such ignorant comments from a user anywhere. You take the cookie, sir.
Because someone is transgendered they're "broken in the head?" Do you honestly believe what you're typing here? If so I genuinely feel sorry for you. Your comments bear a scary resemblance to one certain person trying to establish a "pure" Aryan race at one time.
Being as polite as I can here, being transgendered myself and personally repulsed by your views, I suggest you travel around a little more and learn to appreciate the different flavours of society rather than trying to brand anything different from yourself as polluting the gene pool or "faulty" because we're different.
Travel broadens the mind, honey. For you, I'd recommend an entire world cruise forthwith.
"Oh I apologise for thinking to human race would be better off without certain elements in it."
Don't apologize for either ignorance or foolishness, just fix them. ;)
Sarcasm aside, if you care to explain, why don't you lay out your scientifically sound plan for eugenics? What is your criteria for an "unfit" classification? What predictive measures, tested accurate, do you use to determine if a person qualifies, and how do you control for them in a real-world setting? Or, is it all based upon your own prejudices which have no scientific validity whatsoever; and if so, why the hell should we value someone like you over someone like him?
omg a 10year old, i remember when i was 10 i burned insects with my dads magnifying lens and threw rocks at cats and birds, didnt yet have the intelligence to prefer a pussy for a penis or hang myself coz i wasnt a girl, i actually hated girls at that age, they were so gay lol
Did you know at 10 years old whether you were a boy or a girl? You did know which bathroom to use? I would expect so. So did this child. Unfortunately she also knew the equipment she had didn’t match the brain she had, that’s called dysphoria. She may not have known what this condition was called but I’m sure she knew something was wrong with this picture. Transgenders usually know by the time they are 5 years old that there is something wrong, they just don’t have the education to know that it has a name and there are others like them. By simply being who they see themselves as, they are labeled and ostracized from society. A very heavy burden for a small child. Judging by some of the nastier comments on this thread it is easy to see why this child hung herself. This is exactly the kind of hate that drives children to suicide. Do a little reading, educated yourself, make the world a better place. Stop the hate.
I dont think anyone who's not lived, died, lived, died and then got both sets of memories could be.
I know to use the boys toilets, because those are the toilets I was told to use. I played Rugby and not Rounders, because I was told to play Rugby and the girls were told to play Rounders.
I cant think of a decision I ever made about my gender, I cant remember there ever being a question.
I dont know, maybe I am just that secure in myself, but I dont see the issue.
Do boys and girls wear different underwear at 10? I wont be encouraging my 10 year old daughter to wear make up.
After reading the source I'm going to change my position. I'm sort of with Anglo here.
It sounds a lot like he was shy and a bit weedy, the boys picked on him so he played with the girls instead. This then, in our messed up world, gave him the idea he was a girl.
When I was a kid, that just wouldnt have happened.
@All those who think I am mad - First, comparing me to "a certain person trying to establish an Aryan race" is way off the mark. Jews are not broken (Just misguided but then that is another story).
I call transgendered people broken in the same way someone with only 1 arm is broken, yes they can live good lives, but ultimately they are broken because 1 arm is missing. For transgendered people they either have the wrong body (IE: the body is broken) or they have the wrong mind (IE: The mind is broken) for the sex that they are (I am undecided if sex is decided by mind or body).
I am not here to demand all transgendered people submit to mass genocide, but in the grand scheme of things the world really needs to be split properly into male and female, as shown by pretty much every species on the planet.
@MoC - C'mon it isn't hard to judge if a person is 'right' or 'wrong'. I am not going to go into science, because I have no long term studies to back me up, but then neither do you so it really has to come down to opinion.
So I am not 'hating' on people, and Dynamite if I ever met you I guarantee you would not think I hated you because I know how to keep certain things to myself. I am a 'nice' person and fully understand that it is wrong to bully people because of the way they are.
But at the end of the day something is either right (In this case the same as pretty much every other human) or it is wrong.
I assume the reason we have a name for this is because scientists are looking how to prevent it?
And I agree with AQ, at 10 the only difference I could really see with boys and girls was what sport they played and what toys they used. Also I would not have know at that age what 'equipment' boys and girls should have to know I was different down there.
Lastly ask yourself this: If you knew your child was going to be born with dysphoria would you choose any possible 'fix'? I bet you would, just as if your child was going to have downs syndrome.
AQ: "I cant think of a decision I ever made about my gender, I cant remember there ever being a question."
Sounds like there wasn't a question for this kid, either. There are a lot of people asking questions (and making decisions) of him, though. Who are they?
"Do boys and girls wear different underwear at 10? I wont be encouraging my 10 year old daughter to wear make up."
Gender expression varies culturally. Kids are impressed upon at a pretty young age what is feminine and what is masculine. Not having been in a family with sisters, I can't say as I know that girls wear different underweat before 10, but I know that's around the time boys start shifting from tighty-whities to boxers. I really don't see too many moms putting their girls in either. But, what makes little girls play in mom's makeup? What makes them try on her things? Gender identification, and that's something born in. As you say, you knew who you were. Why do some people think that they know better than this kid who he was?
"When I was a kid, that just wouldnt have happened."
The "good-old-days" were nonsense - people like this have always existed.
AE: "Also I would not have know at that age what 'equipment' boys and girls should have to know I was different down there."
Utter rubbish - kids learn from peers and parents far earlier than 10 that men and women are anatomically different. They separate by sex far earlier in their social cliques. Toys and clothes are VERY significant in this, as they make up a child's world.
"C'mon it isn't hard to judge if a person is 'right' or 'wrong'."
It isn't necessary or productive, either. Who gave you the moral authority or objective knowledge to do so? Any idiot can pass subjective judgment on another person, it's a rather small action. Why do you think your opinion so significant?
"I am not going to go into science, because I have no long term studies to back me up, but then neither do you so it really has to come down to opinion."
I'm not the one touting unproven theories declaring others inferior. You need data to prove a hypothesis, not to falsify one. You're proposing eugenics has merit, but that self-aggrandizing pseudo-science falls flat without evidence. My opinion is that you've got nothing, and you've got nothing. That would make my opinion fact.
"But at the end of the day something is either right....or it is wrong."
Sure, why question a philosophy whose simplicity has made it attractive since the Dark Ages?
"I assume the reason we have a name for this is because scientists are looking how to prevent it?"
You assume a lot of things, you'd do well to follow that up with some investigation. Science classifies everything, that doesn't mean it has any desire to interfere with most of it. Currently, psychiatrists do play a central role in helping people like this TRANSITION to their true sex, not suppress it. As for "treatment"...
"Lastly ask yourself this: If you knew your child was going to be born with dysphoria would you choose any possible 'fix'?"
I think my idea of a "fix" varies greatly from yours. Would I decide to abort a defective untermensch? No. Would I, were the means available and tested, seek to have the child's sex properly aligned in the womb? Possibly, but that's in a world where we know what's "right" and "wrong" for certain, and that's not this world in the forseeable future.
You may not be mad, but I think you'd do well to consider your ideas beyond whether or not they satisfy your mind.
My 13yo daughter has down syndrome...I did not get tested, as I wouldn't have had an abortion. Only knowing what I know now, I would have liked to know ahead of time in case she needed immediate medical intervention such as open heart surgery. BTW...we call it "up" syndrome
Being transgender is not being "broken". And children who grow up in the wrong body know inherently that something is off. It's kind of like listening to a song that's slightly off-key. Many children with gender dysphoria, while they may know they are different from their biologically same-gendered peers, do not know precisely how to "fix" it until they are much older.
My teenage years would have been much more enjoyable if I had realized my true gender identity at a younger age; or rather, if I had realized I could do something about it to change - to feel normal in a body that always felt so awkward.
Now that I've begun transitioning from female to male, it's like that song that was out of tune is suddenly, beautifully in key, and it's the most wonderful feeling in the world.
That being said... go ahead and say all you want about transgender folks being lesser humans than non-trans folks, because it just doesn't matter to me. I'm strong in who I am and the belif that I'm doing the right thing for myself. If some of you could comprehended the strength it takes to go through something like this, risking relationships and family and jobs and everything just to be whole and normal, I think you'd change your opinions. Transpeople are some of the strongest people I know, bar none.
"stop the hate"? Out of YOUR mouth the phrase is utterly ludicrous. Tell you what, when you get rid of that log, then you can start casting aspirations on the motivations of others. Although I suppose being a hypocrite is nothing new to you - what's one more display of it?
Six million dollar question. Which part of us decides our sexuality and gender - mind or body. Is one more important than the other? If we can argue that homosexuals are utterly at the mercy of their genetics, then how is it that this boy - born with the male chromosome pair, a penis and a scrotum with two testes - can be considered a girl. Or is it, as I and others on here have maintained in the face of outright hostility, not as simple as all that?
Here's is a question for you, from the lips of my trans-gender, transvestite, and cross dressing friends:
Did the boy actually feel with inalienable certainty that he was born with the wrong body. This is an important question in establishing just what the boy's identity was.
For trans-gender men and women, the issue is not about how they dress, what they wear, makeup and looking feminine, it is entirely an internal belief that they are actually a woman or a man in the wrong body.
Transvestites on the other hand, identify with the appearance, and are generally homosexual but fully aware that they are male or female themselves. Transvestism is often confused with simple cross-dressing, which was it's original meaning, but in the fetish and alternative sexuality communities, a division is made that transvestites are generally homosexual, and cross-dressers are generally heterosexual.
Finally, there are males who are satisfied by being forced to dress and act and behave as girls, and females who are satisfied in being forced to dress and act as boys. This is called feminization/masculization (or masculating).
So which was the boys deviation? He liked makeup, he liked girls things, socially he may have wanted to fill the feminine role, but that doesn't make him internally a person that purely identified with being a girl himself. It's a complex issue, and not one that can simply be decided one way or the other.
However there are other issues here - why was he dabbling in auto-asphyxiation? Where did he hear about it, is this just the "pass out game" gone wrong, or was it sexual. Ages 8-10 most are still learning that girls and boys are actually physically different. Prior to puberty the penis is diminutive and while it can respond to stimulation, it isn't until puberty that the hormones associated with sexual arousal and the growth hormones start making a real difference. -----------------------------------------
Now, let's just take a brief meander - my childhood was hell. Literally, from the age of 3 I was bullied, exiled, and alienated. In 9 years, I had 5 friends. I attempted suicide a number of times, once even sticking a pair of metal scissors in an electrical socket. At the age of 19, I made my final attempt - I drove my car off a cliff, with a tank half full of gas. I survived. I'm telling you this, in the hopes you'll pull your hypocritical head out of your ass and realize that people aren't as cut and dried as you seem to think, and someone disagreeing with your suggestion this boy physically wanted to be a girl (could he even comprehend that difference yet?) somehow equates to rejection of the boy and "hate".
Yes, at the age of ten I was toilet trained and fully capable of using the right bathroom.
Key word here? "Trained". I don't know if people in your family just spontaneously realize which bathroom is the right one or that there is even a difference between them, but everyone I know was taught.
Sad, Confused, Miserable creatures who were a VERY bad idea. I do not know if it was the idea of some Lonely God or Aliens who needed Gold mined. Maybe it would be for the best if the "Big Rip" happened and just finished off this entire universe.
Did I ever mention testing for Jewishness in the womb? No, I mentioned birth defects. You don't need to be a Nazi to think that it would be better having a normal healthy child than one with some kind of abnormality.
Also I know a few people with downs syndrome (Funnily enough we called it 'up' when we were younger too) and I wouldn't go around killing any of them, but if I could wave a magic wand and cure them I certainly would, as you would too I imagine.
@DiatonicForm - I don't give a damn about the strength it take to get by, people with cancer have to be 'strong', and its bull, you either put up with what you have or you quit, just because we have less to put up with does not make us weaker or you stronger. That kind of statement really gets my back up, I hate people being rewarded and recognised for fighting cancer, what the hell else are they gonna do other than die? Do we mock those that fail and die? No - so those that don't die do not deserve praise.
@MoC - "It isn't necessary or productive, either. Who gave you the moral authority or objective knowledge to do so? Any idiot can pass subjective judgment on another person, it's a rather small action. Why do you think your opinion so significant?"
My opinion is exactly as significant as yours is, because as you mentioned I have no scientific proof that eugenics has merit, but you have no proof that it doesn't! In fact bearing in mind that pretty much every species is correctly seperated into male and female I would call that proof on my side that transgendered people are genetic faults.
And just because I have no proof of my opinion that in no way makes your opinion fact, I would have expected you to realise that.
Regarding 'transitioning' to the true sex that is just us meddling where we should not. Eventally science will be able to turn a person into a sheep or a monkey but that doesn't mean we should, or that a person born thinking he is a sheep is right. Also the fact that science is trying to help change people to the correct sex just proves my point that they are broken to begin with.
Forgetting emotion for a moment; if you bought say a microwave and it was broken you would take it back rather than say 'aw its not the microwaves fault it was manufactured wrong' and fix it yourself.
"But at the end of the day something is either right....or it is wrong." I really fail to see how anyone can argue with this statement.
And just like you I would prefer to treat the child so they are born as the right sex rather than have them aborted, but as it is now I would rather bring a healthy child into the world.
My ideas are based on things being either right or wrong, which despite many people telling me otherwise I am yet to see proof that the world is anything but. I also know how to seperate emotions when thinking about a subject.
@Cavedude I lost my grandmother when I was 15 she got killed by 2 guys that went to my school. More than 63 knife stab wounds were found on the body and to make it worse my girlfriend at the time left me that very day. So i think i lost someone close to me and i still don't give a shit about that kid. His mother was VERY supportive even going to buy stuff for him.
@Lurker It's not ignorance,we're just not all Maude Flanders screaming"somebody PLEASE won't you think of the children!?"
@wingedpuma I agree that it may be a defense mechanism. Or the person just don't give a f*** because he didn't knew the said person.
@cavador LOL good one :P
In conclusion I'm not glad or sad about that kid death,I just don't feel concerned in any way.
It was my understanding that Jews weren't the only ones being killed when Hitler was trying for his master race..."defective" people were also being killed. As for my daughter, I wouldn't change her at all...for one thing I don't know the little girl she would have been without DS but I do know this little girl and she's the one I love. Read the second paragraph of my source at http://www.chairgrrl.com/ it reads "Still, no nation carried sterilization as far as Hitler's Germany. Persons with disabilities - over 200,000 - are the first victims of the Holocaust." Anyway, I'm glad you wouldn't go around killing anyone, that makes me feel better.
I never said Hitler only wanted rid of Jews, just that bearing in mind this is the most well known 'thing' the Nazi's did and is completely not what I am about it kind of makes me not a Nazi.
You could probably look at every evil regimn that ever was and find one or two things they did right.
Also in regards to your daughter you are throwing in emotion, of course you love her as she is. But if you detach yourself from that and thought about it, you would realise that you would have also loved her wihout downs syndrome, and she would also have a better life (Likely). Admitting you would prefer her healthy does not mean admitting you don't love her.
"My opinion is exactly as significant as yours is, because as you mentioned I have no scientific proof that eugenics has merit, but you have no proof that it doesn't!"
I'm sorry if you don't like how science works, but not having proof for your idea means your idea is worthless. Perhaps you'd do well to stick to laymen's delusions of superiority.
By the way, it's interesting how you spite others above for having something to fight against and show real strength (i.e. cancer survivors). "You either put up with what you have or you quit?" Well, that IS the nature of a test of strength, Captain Obvious. I suppose it's true strength to merely talk about how others are broken, rather than to actually show how you can actually endure and survive? Anyway, that aside, back to your opinion...
"And just because I have no proof of my opinion that in no way makes your opinion fact, I would have expected you to realise that."
I already explained why you're wrong. My opinion is that you've got no evidence. You have no evidence, which you freely admit. If you cannot figure out what that means, I suppose you ought not dabble in debate, either.
"Regarding 'transitioning' to the true sex that is just us meddling where we should not."
We have the means and no reason not to do so, thusly I fail to see why. Is it just because some people unaffected by the problem want to butt in with their emotion-based opinions of it? Yes, I just called your opinion emotional. Whether the feeling which motivates you is compassion or some purity-based sense of self-righteousness, it's still emotion.
"Also the fact that science is trying to help change people to the correct sex just proves my point that they are broken to begin with."
I think there's a substantial difference between that which is broken and that which is in need of adjustment, especially when some people would throw broken things on scrap heaps in order to rid the world of defective things.
"'But at the end of the day something is either right....or it is wrong.' I really fail to see how anyone can argue with this statement."
Because there's no objective right or wrong, that's pretty simple. Only people too egocentric or delusional to know otherwise could possibly think they've got the moral compass of the world. You think everything is right or wrong? As Dedo has often pointed out, each human being has a number of chomosomal abnormalities, including you. So are they, are you, "right" or "wrong?" With a simple system like that, there is something in each and every person to make them "wrong," because no one is perfect enough to be "right." The same goes for every last thing on the planet, the planet itself, and the universe, all being subject to the second law of thermodynamics.
"...despite many people telling me otherwise I am yet to see proof that the world is anything but."
That's because you've judged yourself and your ideas "right." Unfortunately, that's of no help whatsoever when you're wrong. I'm not sure any amount of jamming one's face in one's mistakes can overcome such a preconceived notion. Your system is thusly not only flawed, but it breeds ignorance.
Incidentally, I would apologize for the unpleasant truths in my opinions above, but in that we're keeping this unemotional, I'll not feign such empathy. I've spoken my mind.
You are the second person to call me a Nazi in 2 days so it kinda got to me. I would have made a much better world dictator than Hitler ....
@MoC - "I'm sorry if you don't like how science works, but not having proof for your idea means your idea is worthless. Perhaps you'd do well to stick to laymen's delusions of superiority." - Wrong. Pretty much every proven fact started out as a theory at some point, and it was just as good before it was proven as it was after. Until someone actual proves it either way neither you nor I can say which is correct. I just find it logical that removing all the bad stuff only leaves the good stuff. The only real arguement is what is good and bad, and I fail to see how being born transgendered is a good thing.
"I suppose it's true strength to merely talk about how others are broken, rather than to actually show how you can actually endure and survive?" - What exactly do you want me to do? Go an infect myself with AIDS so I can struggle my way bravely through life? (Don't answer that!). I admire those who go and actively do things to show their strength, like walk to the north pole etc, but people who have no choice in the matter are nothing special because almost everyone would show that strength in that situation.
"...some purity-based sense of self-righteousness, it's still emotion." - No it isn't emotion, or if it is it is close to ambivalence because I actually don't care, I just have an opinion.
"I think there's a substantial difference between that which is broken and that which is in need of adjustment, especially when some people would throw broken things on scrap heaps in order to rid the world of defective things." - Depends on your viewpoint really. A mechanic might find a car that doesn't work but make it work with some 'adjustments' whereas someone else will think it broken and beyond repair. In this case I think something is either working as it should be, or broken. And I think everyone agrees that transgendered people are not working as they should be. You are seeing the grey areas, which I think only exist in the minds of those who want them to exist.
"As Dedo has often pointed out, each human being has a number of chomosomal abnormalities, including you." - Probably true, but I am fully aware nothing is completely perfect. I am simply saying that some things have little to no effect, and others have a massive effect. Being born mentally one sex and physically the other is a HUGE birth defect and there is no arguing about it. You can either be compassionate and try and help them, or you can get rid of them. There is no science to say either is the best way and I very much doubt there ever really will be.
"That's because you've judged yourself and your ideas "right"." - No it is because I have judged many attempts to show grey areas as wrong. I am proven wrong about something pretty much every day, it is how we learn. But in most situations I am able to draw a line and say one side is right and another is wrong.
I'll agree to disagree in a moment. First thing's first:
"Pretty much every proven fact started out as a theory at some point, and it was just as good before it was proven as it was after."
Your logic is flawed by virtue of sampling error (you choose to note only hypotheses proven right) and bias (in assuming your own hypothesis to be among those). Your idea is as good as any other idea prior to testing, certainly, but as the scientific method goes, it has a null value. Science does not give credit for runners-up - they are abandoned. If you subscribe to a black-and-white worldview, you'd do well to rid yourself of self-serving biases. Such a system is worthless if you're not going to judge yourself fairly.
"What exactly do you want me to do [to show strength rather than just talk about it]?"
Well, you could either keep quiet about those who have struggled by no choice of their own (but struggled nonetheless), or you can go out and pioneer a few of your own endeavors. Not everyone does show strength in those situations - some take their lives or simply give up the will to live. Mostly, though, I simply think that the rather resentful way you speak of them is somewhat telling in and of itself, so you needn't do anything at all.
Let's just disagree on what motivates you, emotionally or otherwise, consciously or otherwise.
"A mechanic might find a car that doesn't work but make it work with some 'adjustments' whereas someone else will think it broken and beyond repair. In this case I think something is either working as it should be, or broken. And I think everyone agrees that transgendered people are not working as they should be. You are seeing the grey areas, which I think only exist in the minds of those who want them to exist."
Your outright acknowledgement of grey areas in your example and the rather self-contradictory explanation that follows of why they do not exist says quite a bit about how many corners you have to cut to construct a black-and-white world for yourself. Do you find this easier than considering the intricacies of every situation?
"Probably true, but I am fully aware nothing is completely perfect. I am simply saying that some things have little to no effect, and others have a massive effect."
Here again, you admit to denying the realities of the world in order to maintain your dichotomous system. Effectively, you're saying, "I acknowledge it's all grays, but some grays are darker than others. I call them black."
"...it is because I have judged many attempts to show grey areas as wrong."
Another contradiction - you admit to gray areas yourself, hence no one needs to show them further. What you refuse to judge right is the idea that the shade makes a difference in creating an informed opinion and making a proper decision. You're defending the efficacy of your system, not how accurately it reflects the world. Coming full circle, I think this is further evidence of a self-serving bias which clouds your evaluation of your own ideas, processes, and values.
I think your system is broken, but we can agree to disagree about that.
I do beg your pardon but the only thing I got from reading both of your posts is that if you are trying to kill yourself driving over a cliff, make sure you have a full tank of gas in the car! Personally, that always seemed common sense to me anyway. But given that somebody has to be out of their mind to do that in the first place, it is a forgivable if painful oversight.
@Story
Sad, but this is really a problem with modern society putting strange ideas in the boy's head. And I'll bet it was autoerotic asphyxiation too. Leave well enough alone and they'll sort it out when they get old enough to understand their feelings. Queer or not, 10 is not the time to be deciding.
