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03/21/2008 05:53 PM ID: 69464 Permalink   

Abigail Taylor, Pool Victim, Dead


Abigail Taylor of Edina, MN died Thursday at the Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, NE. Her parents were with her but have made no public comments. Abigail was 6 years old.

Abigail's hardships started when much of her intestinal tract had been sucked out in an accident involving a pool drain. Abigail later had a triple organ transplant, but this was followed by multiple setbacks including a cancerous condition.

After Abigail's initial accident, her parents were involved in getting legislation passed that would ban unsafe pool drain covers.

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  by: nicohlis     03/21/2008 05:55 PM     
  Thanks For The Update  
This hurts.
  by: ichi     03/21/2008 05:59 PM     
My heartfelt condolences go out to her friends and family.
  by: StarShadow     03/21/2008 06:01 PM     
  By the gods...  
This poor little girl. May the gods watch over her in death as much as they didn't in life.
  by: bruce_wii   03/21/2008 06:01 PM     
  I hate to be the stick in the mud...  
"After Abigail's initial accident, her parents were involved in getting legislation passed that would ban unsafe pool drain covers."

A kid gets injured/maimed/disfigured/killed in some unique fashion that is uncommon/rare/unheard of, and the parents become zealots for the legislation against the cause/random factor of said accident. That's too bad for the girl, but her parents are idiots.

Flame away...
  by: chaoticvengeance     03/21/2008 06:12 PM     
  You know..  
You're right, completely preventable mishaps shouldn't be prevented. In fact, there should be a contest to see how many people can be killed from negligence. Maybe a good start could be to make the blades of lawn-mowers more exposed, that ought to be for a few deaths and maimings at least..
  by: StarShadow     03/21/2008 06:17 PM     
  Flame #1  
"A kid gets injured/maimed/disfigured/killed in some unique fashion that is uncommon/rare/unheard of, and the parents become zealots for the legislation against the cause/random factor of said accident. That's too bad for the girl, but her parents are idiots."
That is the ignorant statement of the week! These pool drain problems are not an isolated incident. Many injuries have been caused by this stupid design. I applaud the parents for trying to get the non-caring pool manufactures attention. Heaven knows this Republican government doesn't give a damn about its citizens.
  by: JonSmith     03/21/2008 06:19 PM     
  Possible Statistics

Since 1980, CPSC has reports of more than 700 deaths in spas and hot tubs. About one-third of those were drownings to children under age five.

Since 1980, CPSC knows of 18 incidents, including five deaths, involving children between the ages of two and 14 who were injured or died due to body part entrapment involving the drain of a swimming pool, wading pool, or spa.

Since 1978, CPSC has reports of 49 incidents (including 13 deaths) in which people's hair was sucked into the suction fitting of a spa, hot tub, or whirlpool, causing the victim's head to be held under water.

According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, 74 people were trapped by the suction force of pool drains between 1990 and 2004; 13 of them died. An additional 43 people got their hair entangled in pool drains; 12 of them died.

During that same period, two children were eviscerated by pool drains.
  by: nicohlis     03/21/2008 06:23 PM     
  So sad..  
well here is hoping they will be forced into keeping these pools safe from now on, this is just appalling neglect and they should be held accountable.
  by: captainJane     03/21/2008 06:24 PM     
  Possible Statistics #2  
Here's the CPSC release. It's from 1996 so the numbers are old, but still.
  by: nicohlis     03/21/2008 06:27 PM     
  Color me cynical  
but I subscribe to survival of the fittest. I make no distinctions for age, education level, gender, race, or any other factor. Hate me for it if it makes you feel comfortable, throw all the statistics you want at me, but it changes nothing. Humanity has become frail for its over-reliance on legislation and technology.
  by: chaoticvengeance     03/21/2008 06:41 PM     
I'll criticize you for your rather sloppy consideration of these matters. Approving of deaths due to one's own stupidity is one thing, because intelligent people can generally avoid such events. But there's nothing that makes one less "fit" because they died by accident or mechanical defect.
  by: MomentOfClarity     03/21/2008 07:52 PM     
Darwin's idea of 'Survival of the Fittest' deals with a species' ability to survive because it is, or becomes, fit for it's environment, through mutation, adaptation and large numbers of offspring...

A kid accidentally falling victim to an unsafe pool drain has nothing to do with Survival Of the Fittest. Unless she was born with some super tough skin that protected her from the drain, had survived the incident, then passed that trait on to her children. Or her entire life was spent swimming around these dangerous drains, and she died because her skin wasn't tough enough, and thus couldn't pass on that negative trait.
  by: barryman9001   03/21/2008 08:05 PM     
  Trying to prevent horrific accidents  
is always idiotic, especially when the death of one stupid child too dumb to escape a drain forces an entire industry to cut slightly into its profits to make safer products. </sarcasm>
  by: l´anglais     03/21/2008 08:07 PM     
  Life is full of dangers.  
You can choke on food or water, for example. No one can guarantee your safety.
  by: walter3ca   03/21/2008 08:21 PM     
And yet, we regulate food and water to ensure they're safe for consumption.
  by: MomentOfClarity     03/21/2008 09:22 PM     
  you make no allowance  
for age in the survival of the fittest? So I guess according to you the human race is just a bit stronger since this kid is dead? I guess you are not a parent, or I hope you aren't.
  by: gryphon50a   03/21/2008 09:42 PM     
I can sort of understand where you are coming from with the parents not being hard pressed to change legislation before. If someone believes strongly in fixing a problem or industry standard they should be that way before something happens.

That said there are some things in life that you aren't aware of until it happens and then you take on the cause so it happens to no one elses loved ones. A great example is Dennis Quaid. He and his wife are not suing the hospital for the medication error they are suing the company and not for millions, but for 50k and that they change the two bottles that hep and help-lock come in so it is easier to distinguish.

I wouldn't say her parents are idiots or that she was a weaker person, in fact that little girl went through more pain and problems that most of us will know in our lifetimes. The parents were unaware of the issue with the drain at the time this accident happened to their child.

Compassion is a mighty thing to have, because you never know when you might need some yourself.
  by: TaraB     03/22/2008 04:02 AM     
  @ chaoticvengeance  
I would say your disposition of thought process would change should it ever happen to your family, but something tells me you'de be just as cold, callous, and un-caring even it it was your own kid.
  by: Discarded Vet   03/22/2008 04:49 AM     
  Ugh! It's a horrible thing....  
To have your guts sucked out through your anus.
If it happened to me I would want to die than suffer the pain!
  by: cavador   03/22/2008 05:23 AM     
  Interesting site  
that relates to my sarcastic comment above:
  by: l´anglais     03/22/2008 08:15 AM     
as used on the Net, refers to someone doing something dumb and removing themselves from the genepool. This poor kid was a victim of a dangerously designed pool filter . And the reason parents become"zealots" for a cause is so that awareness is raised among the population and that others need not feel the same pain.

I hope you, or any other Shortnewser are never in the position to become a "zealot" chaoticvengeance.
  by: stretchman     03/22/2008 08:38 AM     
I wonder, at what point, Darwin was brought up in relation to "survival of the fittest". It certainly wasn't me, but some seem to assume that's what I was talking about.
I voice my opinion, which I felt was more to the tune of expressing disgust with an overly legislated society, and you all retaliate with fear and horror. I am no sociopath, I merely think analytically and not with knee-jerk reaction. In real-life I am a rather easy person to get along with. Don't get me wrong; I am arrogant, but I'm not appealing for anyones understanding. Perhaps in the future you will not be so quick to judge.
The herd mentality is a powerful force...
  by: chaoticvengeance     03/22/2008 09:38 AM     
You should've expected that by now ;]

I know what you mean.. This country/earth/solarsystem is full of concessions to idiocy (this case notwithstanding) that can sometimes make it quite frustrating to be one of the few who grew up on their own common sense. The strong and the lucky survive and spread successful genes. The weak do not. Cold as it sounds, thats the truth, and your ability to react to dangers (manmade or natural) is what has allowed us to live for so long. Its just nature in the 21st century. Forest is replaced by city, tigers replaced by machinery, cars and other obstructions.
Pity for the family though. I just hope they dont sue the pool company out of business. :/
  by: japh   03/23/2008 06:03 PM     
  had this girl never taken a bath or washed her  
hands? We all know stuff leaves through a drain. Wow someone should tell her. Sorry parents.
  by: jimmyp   03/25/2008 12:07 AM     
  @Japh, chaotic  
"I just hope they dont sue the pool company out of business. :/"

Yeah, they only made a faulty product that killed someone. Oh, but I guess they let you and chaotic feel a little more superior, so that's ok. She was "unfit," I hear, though none advancing this self-aggrandizing idea have suggested just how a fitter specimen might have survived. Try to replace natural with man-made elements all you like, the fact remains that an accident not natural selection when no adaption could possibly have saved the deceased. That's just death.
  by: MomentOfClarity     03/25/2008 12:23 AM     
...the fact remains that an accident *is* not natural selection when no *adaptation* could possibly have saved the deceased.
  by: MomentOfClarity     03/25/2008 12:25 AM     
I don't know about the drains in your house, but the ones in my bath and shower are not strong enough to suck my intestines out through my anus. Of course this little girl had washed before, there's a big difference between watching the water swirl round the plughole and having your insides ripped out through your anus because the pool drain was faulty or badly designed.

People seem to be forgetting that this is a 6-year-old girl we are talking about here. Survival of the fittest in this case is irrelevant. How many kids (or adults) do you know that won't get into a swimming pool because they fear having their intestines sucked out? I wouldn't have thought there would be too many since we assume that drainage systems are going to be safe, rather than devices that maim us!
  by: TabbyCool     03/25/2008 05:32 PM     
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