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07/18/2008 05:35 AM ID: 72087 Permalink   

Bush Trying to Place New Restrictions on Birth Control


The Department of Health and Human Services is drawing up new restrictions on Family Planning Services. The rule would jeopardize federal funding if they discriminate against people who refuse to administer certain forms of contraception.

It also defines abortion so broadly that it would include several types of birth control, including oral contraception.

Speaker Pelosi released this statement: "If the Administration goes through with this draft proposal, it will launch a dangerous assault on women’s health." This new rule redefines contraception as abortion.

    WebReporter: gws1968 Show Calling Card      
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what is wrong with these people?
  by: ITTS   07/18/2008 05:51 AM     
  They are trying  
to f**ck things up so badly before they leave office that they can say it was the democrats fault, and get re-elected in 4 years
  by: madmike13   07/18/2008 06:23 AM     
  What's next?  
What really disturbs me is if a hospital is receiving Federal funding and you were raped they will not be able to give you the Morning After pill if you request it or they will lose their funding. And before you know it you won't be able to buy condoms!
  by: gws1968     07/18/2008 07:46 AM     
They aren't putting restrictions on birth control, they are saying this....

The Bush administration wants to require all recipients of aid under federal health programs to certify that they will not refuse to hire nurses and other providers who object to abortion and even certain types of birth control.

For me, it seems wrong to deny someone employment because they are moraly opposed to certain procedures. It's illegal to assist someone to commit suicide. But what if it wasn't. What if, you were a doctor, and the hospital you worked in required you to assist people in suicide attempts? Seems like a tough call to me, and there are certain people within the health community who think that abortion is the same as assisted suicide, only the baby doesn't have the choice in the procedure.

Instead of using blogs as a news source, how about the original news article.
  by: boaznjachin     07/18/2008 08:09 AM     
  In case you were wondering,  
this is the first negative assesment i have ever given.
  by: boaznjachin     07/18/2008 08:12 AM     
  Wrong how?  
For starters If you didn't notice it's not just any blog it is from the Speaker of the House. It also links to the New York Times article, Which I read and saw what the Administration is trying to define as abortion. Which is very broad and can be misconstrued many different ways depending on your beliefs.

The proposal defines abortion as follows: “any of the various procedures — including the prescription, dispensing and administration of any drug or the performance of any procedure or any other action — that results in the termination of the life of a human being in utero between conception and natural birth, whether before or after implantation.”

And I don't take anything Bush does at face value. I too think it is wrong to discriminate against anyone for their beliefs. But don't you think if you were that against something that you wouldn't try to work there.

I won't even go apply for a job at Blackwater, even though they are the only ones offering any decent jobs in my area because I don't believe in what they stand for and I could use the job.

That said, you are entitled to your opinion.
  by: gws1968     07/18/2008 08:53 AM     
  True.... but,  
The administration isn't putting restrictions on birth control, they are restricting descrimination based on beliefs. Just because those beliefs don't jive with pro lifers (I am pro choice by the way, so don't start labeling me).

I know.... it's a conspiracy to ban abortions.... spare me please....The fact is, as the proposal is written, it is trying to stop the descrimination against people for, all intents and purposes, their religious beliefs (Read; Roman Catholic).

Health care is not like other places of employment. There are not plenty of other options when it comes to working in the health care industry. You're a doctor, or a nurse. Where else are you going to go. If one discriminates against people who won't prescribe the "Day after pill" then they all will. So pretty soon, there will be no place for Roman Catholic (I'm not that either, so again, keep your labels to yourself please.) doctors and nurses to work in their chosen field. Discrimination is discrimination. no matter the clothes you try to put on it.

Abortion is a divisive issue, always has been, always will be.
  by: boaznjachin     07/18/2008 09:25 AM     
  @ Speaker of the house blog  
Yeah... Nancy Pelosi's Blog. There's an unbiased opinion for you. She only reports the facts. Doesn't try and put any spin on the matter does she.(Sarcasm)
  by: boaznjachin     07/18/2008 11:04 AM     
  @ boaznjachin  
"Abortion is a divisive issue, always has been, always will be. "
From the perspective of a 13 year old rape victim abortion is not an issue; it is a medical procedure. If the patient only has one medical professional available and they refuse to administer the required medicine then the patient is denied care. What course are you choosing when you allow another person's beliefs to dictate what treatments are available a person needing care?
  by: Prefect     07/18/2008 12:52 PM     
First of all a Dr or RN or a Pharmacist has to put aside their personal beliefs while at work. The patient should not be denied the right to fill a prescription or seek a legal medical procedure. If someone wants Birth Control or the Morning after pill it is the pharmacists job to fill that prescription or the Dr's job to write the prescription. If you knew going into your profession that you would have to do this, then you accept the duty bestowed upon you. If you are against it find another field to work in.

Secondly and I speak from experience all abortions are not from being lazy about birth control. I have spoken out before that I myself had to have an abortion. Mine was called a Theraputic abortion since my son's life was not viable. This was after I had gotten a tubaligation 6 years previously. Due to Class X and D medications I was taking and later I found out the first Dr did not even DO the tubaligation because of his religious beliefs I had to abort. So yes I do believe I can state with first hand knowledge that a Dr should not practice in a field where he can decide his beliefs are stronger than a patients right. I was taken into an OR and told I had a procedure done that has been proven to never have taken place by my new OB/GYN and several other Experienced OB/GYNs.

So again if your faith will be in conflict with your job simply do not do it, find another field to practice because otherwise you are harming patients and possibly a new life.

Oh and my son's first birthday would have been today had it not been for the Dr who had such strong beliefs.
  by: TaraB     07/18/2008 01:16 PM     
Well said, and I'm very sorry that happened to you.
  by: Prefect     07/18/2008 03:48 PM     
  Yeah, sorry...  
I've worked in journalism and blogs are never, ever acceptable, credible news sources. Find the blog's sources, and cite those. You can mention the blogger's opinion if it is relevant to the story, but facts must come from a primary source.
  by: nofattieskthx   07/18/2008 04:02 PM     
  Thanks Prefect  
I have gotten far with therapy, today will be a harder day than many. Because of what happened to me I will be even more vigilant that abortion is kept legal and safe for those that need it.

And for anyone that wants to know or learn I can tell you that the majority of women that have had one will NEVER forget nor take it as a light decision. Signs and flags and marches do nothing but cause further hurt and pain.
  by: TaraB     07/18/2008 05:11 PM     
  And on restricting abortion  
People have already covered the "discrimination" aspect. If the beliefs you cannot put aside are those that would keep you from performing your job, you ought not be taking that job. Companies ought not be forced to hire a person who will not do a part of the job they're hired to do for fear of losing federal funding, either. THAT is how this restricts abortion (and BC, by virtue of vague terminology), by ensuring that it remains a touchy thing for medical establishments to do.
  by: MomentOfClarity     07/18/2008 05:34 PM     
  @ MadMike13  
"They are trying to f**ck things up "
I doubt it. Laws like this get pushed through because Bush believes it's a good idea.
  by: Prefect     07/18/2008 05:57 PM     
I chose this particular blog post because all it did was quote and link to the NY Times article and Nancy Pelosi, which like it or not, she and others in her position are the only ones who can do anything about Bush and his cronies.(And that's an uphill battle)

And for TaraB I am sorry for what you had to go through! The reason I even wanted to bring this story to peoples attention is for people like you. Nobody should be making choices for you but you!
  by: gws1968     07/18/2008 07:53 PM     
  Listen up all you wanna-be conservatives  
Is this admin acting conservatively? If they were actual conservatives they wouldnt care about interfering in our lives. Rather they would be trying to make the government smaller.

So far this admin has bloated the government to be larger than all his predecessors combined it seems!
  by: slavefortheman     07/18/2008 08:00 PM     
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