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07/24/2008 08:46 PM ID: 72245 Permalink   

Former Apollo Astronaut: Aliens Exist, NASA Covering Them Up

 

Aliens are real, and NASA has covered up their existence, says Dr. Edgar Mitchell, 77, who was a crew member aboard the Apollo 14 mission. Mitchell says that aliens resemble "little people who look strange to us" and says they've visited Earth.

Mitchell says alien technology is far advanced beyond what humans have achieved, and that if the aliens' intent was hostile, "We would be gone by now." He added, "We are not alone. I'm most assured about that."

"I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real," Mitchell said in an interview. "It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so."

 
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  My opinion:  
 
I think that the Universe has to be full of life, but I also think that there is a secret government program responsible for convincing people that we are being visited.

Word is that to be a NASA astronaut, that you have to be a Freemason.

Either this guy is being manipulated into believing what he is saying, or he is just trying to manipulate us into believing him.

I think that shadow forces in the government have been brainwashing us into believing all of this crap for either one of two reasons:

1 - It serves as a nice distraction. The tabloids print all this UFO crap, and the public remains entranced while society descents into a tyrannical police state.

2 - Global government. The Freemasonic president Ronald Reagan once stated that he "often wondered how quickly the world would put aside its differences and unite if attacked by an outside force such as aliens"
 
  by: Circuit_Monkey   07/24/2008 09:54 PM     
  So  
 
Are you saying the government is so smart, that by denying that we have been visited, are actually trying to make people believe that we 'have' been visited?
 
  by: John E Angel     07/24/2008 10:18 PM     
  @CM  
 
Problem with your logic. Masons are strictly male. What about the female astronauts???

Also I dont buy the idea of NASA creating the idea of alien visitors. That doesnt make sense at all. Our governments are not that clever.
 
  by: slavefortheman     07/24/2008 10:53 PM     
  @cm  
 
South Park episode anyone?
 
  by: Dekar   07/24/2008 11:33 PM     
  Freemason Involvement  
 
I really think that the involvement of the freemasons in anything really important is minimal. The entire fascination with them is that few people really know what they are about, but the same could be said for various cults that operate throughout the world as well. I personally know a few freemasons myself, and my observations would suggest that although they do have their place in world affairs, it is still not a firm hold on everything that goes on. I believe that position belongs to a whole nother society/group of people.
 
  by: theavenger8     07/25/2008 12:21 AM     
  ..  
 
"I think that shadow forces in the government..."

Come off it.
 
  by: p_g_chris   07/25/2008 01:53 AM     
  Welcome Dr. Mitchell.  
 
I'm glad you could make it today. My that's a lovely hat you have there. No, I didn't realize that baseball caps could be made out of tin foil. It looks great on you!
 
  by: opinionated   07/25/2008 01:58 AM     
  it's true  
 
the universe is full of life, we cant be the only ones its mathematically impossible, for us ot be the only life in the universe.
AND we probably have been visited but our society is so closed minded and religious orientated that mass panic and hysteria will occur if aliens were actually acknowledged.
 
  by: securityunion     07/25/2008 02:03 AM     
  Ok, here it is  
 
Think of all the cameras and video cameras through out this world, but yet there has not been a picture or a video that has been clear enough to believe or prove that Aliens from another plant or galaxy has ever entered the atmosphere or even survived and landed on earth.

All the video and camera pictures are fuzzy, usually meaning they edited the photo or video (enter picture here) and covered up the editing by making it fuzzy.

The only Aliens I believe in are crossing the borders and they are illegals.
 
  by: slayer06   07/25/2008 02:12 AM     
  I believe they exist...  
 
How can you say they don't, when space could possibly be infinitely big and go on forever? Our technology barely lets us see passed our nose; comparatively. Just think how far away they could be. If you don't think space goes on forever, what do you think is on the other side of where it ends… another space that contains our space? The possibilities are endless, including the possibility that they exist.
 
  by: bluraven64   07/25/2008 03:25 AM     
  @securityunion, bluraven  
 
@su:
It is not mathematically impossible that we are the only sentient life in the universe. That's a myth. It is improbable when viewed from certain perspectives, for sure, but keep it mind that our own existence is a statistical anomaly below the usual level of significance applied to determine random chance versus correlation (less than 3%).

@blueraven:
All current though indicates that the universe is very definitely finite. While the scale of universe makes all known measurements insignificant, it is not infinite. However, the universe continues to expand (we can measure the movement of galaxies and stars by color shift), yet it is not expanding uniformly as once thought. Most of this expansion is attributed to dark matter which is mathematically calculated to comprise 97% of the universe, leaving a meagre 3% for the physical observable universe we know and love. What is dark matter? We don't know. We can't see it, we can't measure it, we only know or presume to know it is there because something has to be to explain the actions of the universe we can observe.

It's time for contemporary thought to catch up with the sciences on this issue. The fact of our own existence is nothing short of an exceptionally improbable coincidence, stretching that coincidence to accomodate other sentient life is pushing the bounds of probability.

Now, if you suggest that life on this planet, or other planets, was created and not the result of random chance and coincidence, the odds start looking better.
 
  by: lauriesman     07/25/2008 03:52 AM     
  hardcore skeptics  
 
would still deny the existence of life on other planets even if they were taken aboard an alien craft and whisked across a few galaxies. They would claim hallucinations and mental aberrations.
 
  by: John E Angel     07/25/2008 05:48 AM     
  A list of things Edgar Mitchell believes  
 
- Uri Gellar is bona fide and spontaneously vomited up a piece of his old something-or-other (not the camera Mitchell had left on the moon, which he had requested, something else).
- Communicating with plants.
- A 19 year old canadian kid called Adam Dreamhealer used projected quantum holograms to heal him from a thousand miles away of his pancreatic cancer that hadn't been confirmed yet.
- You can send psychic messages through space with a reasonable accuracy even if you send them at a completely different time to the time the person says they received them.

I believe that it's quite likely there's other life out there.

But Mitchell is a weird conspiracy nut, and his views are very vague and seem to merely be assumptions he's made.

You can listen to the radio bit here: http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/...
 
  by: tantryl   07/25/2008 09:31 AM     
  Check this out.  
 
Your an alien from another planet.
You visit earth, to pass on your good will and technology.
On entering the solar system you hear radio signals form earth telling of the war in Iraq , Afganistan, Africa and the likes...
I ask? , What would YOU DO.?
 
  by: steve2045     07/25/2008 02:45 PM     
  Any  
 
kind of beings they are I think they are not able to overcome the huge distances, I don't believe this.
 
  by: vizhatlan     07/25/2008 04:18 PM     
  According to the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy  
 
The universe has a total population of 0. this is because the universe is infinite but not all the planets/moons etc are inhabited which means there are a finite number of inhabited planets. Any finite number divided by infinity is so small to not even be worth noticing.

Therefore anyone you happen to run into is just a figment of a twisted imagination...
 
  by: savagepotato     07/25/2008 05:08 PM     
  COME OFF IT ED  
 
he of all people should know better
 
  by: lantalooon   07/25/2008 05:38 PM     
  pfffffft  
 
Humans are nothing but one-celled organisms compared to what we don't know. We don't have the brain power to even comprehend what's in the universe. I laugh at the naysayers that have posted. They know nothing, yet they speak as experts. We could be some alien kid's science project. Who knows? We may never know. Thousands of years from now it could be revealed. Or not.
 
  by: JonSmith     07/25/2008 06:46 PM     
  @Lauriesman  
 
Well, you make some very good points backed by good data, however, it is hard to say what is actually at the "edge of the universe". There is a chance of another universe butted up against ours. There is a chance that at the edge of the universe, there is just nothingness, incomprehensible to the human mind at this time. There is no sure way to guess what lies outside the "walls" of our universe.

I would imagine, if there are multiple universes, it would be extremely difficult to go from one to another. I would like to imagine that each universe has a type of standard within it, for example a set number of elements with a set formula, available for building blocks.

Who knows, maybe at "the edge of the universe" is literally heaven. No one knows the answers to this, and most likely will not for a very long time.

It is fun to think about though.....
 
  by: smarta$$     07/25/2008 06:47 PM     
  Agree with the circuitmonkey  
 
I know it sounds crazy. But I believe the government wants us to believe there are UFOs for some reason. As crazy as it sounds I believe these astronauts are either lying because they are Masons and believe they are doing the right thing by lying for some reason. Or they were brainwashed and are being used as puppets.

Whatever is going on it's working. Because we have astronauts claiming aliens are real and the general public and media is compeltely ignoring it. We trust our government but not the astronauts themselves? That's not normal behavior.

 
  by: goldenGod   07/25/2008 06:53 PM     
  Long story short ! or vice-versa  
 
Why is NASA / Govt. hiding the fact from the people that the aliens do exists ? why !!

there are certain inventions / discoveries / thoughts / things in this world that only some people know and they never tell the secret to the world only because these thoughts are way beyond a normal person brain power.

there are things that are un-explainable ! so people who knows it never bother to explain it to some one..

and beleive me this whole "universe and alien" thing is way beyond my n your understanding !

and when the scientist try to explain us , we call them stupid and what not...we call him crazy .... why ..only because we are not capable of wat they are saying .....

but i do beleive that aliens do exists ! would love to find out what kind of technologies they use ! wat language they speak ! wat do they wear ! do they get high !!!!!
 
  by: xxPrincexx   07/25/2008 07:05 PM     
  Look at it this way...  
 
look at it this way. Let's say this is true. Let's say the governmetn has desperately been trying to hide aliens from us becasue they want to keep the incredible technology secret. If that's the case, then why have these astronauts, and others, been allowed to live or keep talking publicly for so long? I know the governement has enough tricks to keep these guys quiet if they wanted to. They could threaten to hurt people close to them or use who knows what kind of technology against them. Look what Putin does to people who cross him in Russia.

http://www.smh.com.au/...

The US could probably do stuff a lot crazier than that.
 
  by: goldenGod   07/25/2008 07:19 PM     
  @goldenGod  
 
"then why have these astronauts, and others, been allowed to live or keep talking publicly for so long?"

Because they know that the astronauts would receive the same responses as some of those posted here.
 
  by: John E Angel     07/25/2008 07:32 PM     
  @Ptolemy  
 
I'm sorry I meant lauriesman.
I disagree.
 
  by: Mannyishere     07/25/2008 07:52 PM     
  @JohnEAngel  
 
"Because they know that the astronauts would receive the same responses as some of those posted here."

Why risk it at all though? If it's that big of a deal? I would imagine if the government wanted to they could shut these guys down in a heartbeat.

And also.. as you say. if the astronauts know no one will ever believe them.. why continue to humiliate themselves? Especially after saying the same thing and no one believing them for so long?

Why are the astronauts telling people aliens exist but they are so nonchalant about it? It just doesn't make sense.

You would think it would be one or the other. Either they don't say anything or they are screaming from the mountain tops begging people to believe them.

I think the reason people don't believe them or take them seriously is because they aren't screaming it.. so again.. why aren't they? Why aren't they doing more to make the goverment talk if they really know this is true as they claim they do? IMO it's because they want people to be nonchalant about it. For some reason the government wants us to just accept that aliens exist and not look for more answers. I guess in preparation for some big event where aliens will play the major role.. look for Richard Hoagland interviews. He talks about why they might be doing this.

 
  by: goldenGod   07/25/2008 07:55 PM     
  @Lauriesman  
 
how long ago was it that the Earth was MOST DEFINITELY FLAT?!?

i mean cmon ... though we pretend to know alot, the reality is that whatever we think we know will be replaced by new knowledge soon (50-100 years).

it does seem highly unlikely that we are the only life in the universe.
 
  by: bpearson   07/25/2008 09:25 PM     
  @goldengod  
 
to me, it would seem a more subtle approach to float some information out there ... and potentially given by someone who had the appearance of indepth knowledge. then you have a new president who doesnt want to keep it from the people release the info. i dunno, stranger things have happened.
 
  by: bpearson   07/25/2008 09:28 PM     
  @GoldenGod  
 
I like the fact you bring up Russia. Because... I think sometimes after reading a story of a certain national origination, we forget there are other space programs. Hundreds of thousands of individuals across the globe involved in space programs.

And despite all of this, everyone stays tight-lipped about the "secrets"? I think the truth is, no matter what you believe, your experiences with aliens in our time are the same as most the world... non-existant.

Still. It creates a pretty good market =P All these aliens and wild imaginations.
 
  by: Dayron   07/26/2008 12:51 AM     
  By the by...  
 
Does anyone find it odd that this forum has its members who denounce others beliefs citing "lack of evidence" or "lack of proof"... but will believe anything else thrown at them due to the "probablities". Your beliefs in alien life are just as invalid as someones belief in a supreme God being.
 
  by: Dayron   07/26/2008 12:56 AM     
  @dayron  
 
i havent denounced anyone else's belief system. i may ridicule it, but denounce it ... never.
 
  by: bpearson   07/26/2008 01:25 AM     
  @JohnEAngel  
 
"Because they know that the astronauts would receive the same responses as some of those posted here."

Why risk it at all though? If it's that big of a deal? I would imagine if the government wanted to they could shut these guys down in a heartbeat.

And also.. as you say. if the astronauts know no one will ever believe them.. why continue to humiliate themselves? Especially after saying the same thing and no one believing them for so long?

Why are the astronauts telling people aliens exist but they are so nonchalant about it? It just doesn't make sense.

You would think it would be one or the other. Either they don't say anything or they are screaming from the mountain tops begging people to believe them.

I think the reason people don't believe them or take them seriously is because they aren't screaming it.. so again.. why aren't they? Why aren't they doing more to make the goverment talk if they really know this is true as they claim they do? IMO it's because they want people to be nonchalant about it. For some reason the government wants us to just accept that aliens exist and not look for more answers. I guess in preparation for some big event where aliens will play the major role.. look for Richard Hoagland interviews. He talks about why they might be doing this.

 
  by: goldenGod   07/26/2008 04:59 AM     
  @slavefortheman  
 
"Problem with your logic. Masons are strictly male."

Wrong there are female freemasons!
 
  by: simonwike   07/26/2008 06:59 AM     
  umm....  
 
Ok I'm out with it. Last night my mom came home pissed ass hell (I was over at her house visiting my younger brother), so we went outside so my bro can smoke a cig. I just stared up into the sky to clear my mind of the situation when I noticed a moving light. I stared at it for a while and noticed it was smoothly moving over the sky and figured it to be a satellite. I pointed up to it and said hey a satalite, and my brother looked up and spotted it. I started in on how theres this one guy who takes pictures of satalites and he can find them (spy ones too) easily, but I was inturupted because as i spoke and staring at this light it slowed to a slight turn (which I paused and thought my eyes where playing tricks on me), then boom it took off in a completly diff direction in a flash it turned into a streak of light and disapearing at the end of it. I about fliped. Shouted "are you F#cking kidding me."
My brother was like wtf and said did that just really happen. And we kept looking to see if it was there, but damn wheres a camera when you need one. True story, no drinking, two people, and a thing that couldn't have done what it done.

I was curious to aliens existing, but theres like no concrete proof. I love watching the sky and have never seen anything ever. This blew my mind and now I only have a stupid story with no proof. Do I believe now? Yes, but leaning to no. How can one prove this? I don't know what to think about it. Anyone?
 
  by: Vhan     07/27/2008 02:03 AM     
  @lauriesman  
 
So what created the thing that created us?

And so it goes on... Chicken and Egg...
 
  by: Dook   07/27/2008 02:26 AM     
  A few things  
 
On the cameras around the world, it is probable that at least one got a clear shot from what you're saying, but how many of your cameras are trained on the sky? I'd guess someone right now is looking with a camera for life in the sky. Doesn't mean they'll see anything though.

I know we're not alone in the universe, but call me strange for doubting, for whatever the reason, that there is anything that is sentient and nonhuman. That is to say there are definately more human worlds out there than this one. But I doubt there are nonhuman populations that could invent and travel through space.

But my big thought on all this alien stuff, statistically speaking, is that certainly someone must have captured evidence, by some media form, of off world life. Exclude the people who made a mistake in thinking they saw something: drunk, didn't know exactly what they saw flying, etc. Exclude the liers and fakes that made up stuff for fame. Exclude top secret gov aircraft (which overlaps with people not knowing what they saw and thinking it was a UFO).

Could that really be all the variables out of all the thousand of documents? Mistakes and liers?

Doubtful.
 
  by: LykosSN4   07/27/2008 04:18 AM     
  @tantryl  
 
So because he believes these things that means what exactly?

Only that his belief system does not coincide with yours. I'm sure the if the situation were reversed he'd call you a nut too.

Everyone's views are based on assumptions they have made...that's how it works.
 
  by: Opinionated Truth   07/27/2008 05:15 PM     
  @opinionated  
 
"Welcome Dr. Mitchell.
I'm glad you could make it today. My that's a lovely hat you have there. No, I didn't realize that baseball caps could be made out of tin foil. It looks great on you!"

Usually the first thing unintelligent people do when brought new information that does not coincide with their beliefs is ridicule the source.

Ridicule, the first resort of the intelligent. Considering the information no matter the source, the first resort of the stupid. (sarcasm)
 
  by: Opinionated Truth   07/27/2008 05:21 PM     
  Irony  
 
I hope someone found it in my last post before reading this. You're likely a deep thinker if you did.
 
  by: Opinionated Truth   07/27/2008 05:30 PM     
  If we are alone...  
 
then that's pretty sad... don't you think?

Just as religion has people who choose to believe only certain parts and view information in certain ways to suit themselves, science too, has avid "followers" who pick and choose the information to believe.

Any scientist who sits there and says something is "impossible" does not deserve the title. For it was impossible to fly at one point, impossible to break the sound barrier, impossible for something to be smaller than an atom...

Some smart ass will reply saying "i don't think it's impossible, just improbable..." to you, i say:

Get over yourself.

As for the comment on fuzzy video and photos, it is an interesting point you make... however - i highly doubt anyone expected to see an anomaly in the sky, and so didn't have their equipment set up correctly to go... c'mon man, a bit of common sense huh?

I personally believe we are not alone... ridicule me as you will - but i refuse to believe there is nothing else...i refuse to believe in such a sad, hopeless world.
 
  by: george2101436   07/28/2008 02:40 AM     
  IMHO  
 
i believe mitchell =)
of course were not alone !
if we as humans exist on earth
why not ET's on other planets?

meh the government is .. going
to the dark side !
lies lies lies
thats all they tell us !
coverups, scandels, assasinations,
dissapearences, murders
THEYRE UP TO SOMETHING !
 
  by: baozytools   07/31/2008 04:11 PM     
  Maybe this is horribly outdated and such  
 
But I just recently watched this National Press Club Conference that had all these reputable - at least they said they were reputable and could prove it - people who tell their stories of UFOs crashing, stopping missle launches, flying on radar and even how there's something like 57 different kinds of aliens they've catalogged.

I hate to jump in there and say I readily believe it as it's frowned upon to believe something so radical and unprovable.

Warning: It's 5 minutes short of 2 hours long.
http://www.netro.ca/...
 
  by: LykosSN4   07/31/2008 06:52 PM     
  Eh...  
 
Some people don't believe because it conflicts with the whole "God created the Earth" belief...

Me, personally, I just don't know. Guess that makes me agnostic, doesn't it?
 
  by: SpankytheClown   07/31/2008 07:53 PM     
 
 
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