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07/31/2008 02:44 AM ID: 72388 Permalink   

Police That Raided Wrong House Receive Awards

 

Last December, eight Minneapolis police officers mistakenly raided a house on bad information. The homeowner thought he was being robbed and traded fire with the police.

Three of the officers took shrapnel damage to their body armor and helmets, but none of the officers or home residents were physically injured.

The officers have now been awarded three medals of valor and five medals of commendation. A police spokesman said the officers "performed very bravely under gunfire and made smart decisions".

 
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  by: nicohlis     07/31/2008 02:47 AM     
  hell yeah  
 
they kicked ass in that home. were they right to invade in the first place? nevermind that. they had faulty pre-raid intelligence. what matters is how they fought, not why they fought.
 
  by: ManilaRyce     07/31/2008 03:01 AM     
  just me?  
 
Is it just me, or does this story make a good analogy for the Iraq War?

Enter on false information, fight it out with the inhabitants, and get awarded for it...
 
  by: whitewarrior627   07/31/2008 03:16 AM     
  depends on how you look at it  
 
Noone in the home (who were firing back) was killed. or injured. I think that is pretty brave and smart -- they could've probably mowed everyone down if they'de of just panicked.
 
  by: velger   07/31/2008 04:33 AM     
  Lets See  
 
They attacked an innocent man in his home.

He deserves the award for valiantly defending his home.

They need to be looking for work for attacking an innocent man in his home without absolutely confirming their information.
 
  by: ichi     07/31/2008 05:01 AM     
  @  
 
He probably had some cakes that were yellow in his fridge, it was only a matter of time before they were turned into weapons of mass digestion.
 
  by: silentrage   07/31/2008 06:01 AM     
  well...  
 
I can see where the comments are coming from and all.
But did you guys stop and think that maybe the officers weren't the ones that came up with the information that lead them to raid the wrong house?

And then also stop to think that they could have killed the neighbor in the exchange instead.

I don't really care for defending cops or anything but it's tiring to see people take a stab at them at any chance they get and spin it in the most negative way possible.
 
  by: sp00ky187   07/31/2008 06:38 AM     
  mm  
 
not sure why i said neighbor...but yea home owner.
 
  by: sp00ky187   07/31/2008 06:39 AM     
  looking at one side  
 
take it from the Officers position, they raid a home and getting shot at, now these guys get paid sh-t and have to deal with a-holes and violence day after day, and yet no one got hurt, u fire at a police officer they have the right to end ur life... yet they didn't kill the guy, i congratulate them.
 
  by: securityunion     07/31/2008 06:55 AM     
  @sp00ky  
 
"But did you guys stop and think that maybe the officers weren't the ones that came up with the information that lead them to raid the wrong house?"

Did you stop to think that it's the police's responsibility to make sure they're busting down the right door?

Or can we now just call the police, report that someone we don't like has a big meth lab in their house, and watch the hilarity ensue?
 
  by: l´anglais     07/31/2008 07:23 AM     
  Iraq War  
 
Or American mentality?

It doesn't matter if what you're doing is right, so long as it's what the government / your superiors have told you to do.

Nazi Germany was in many respects quite similar.

God help us all.
 
  by: Maxx20     07/31/2008 10:01 AM     
  When did they realise  
 
Did they raid the house and THEN realise it was the wrong place so were deliberately trying not to shoot the owner?

Or did they break in, try their best to shoot him and fail miserably?

The first may deserve a commendation, the second does not. But at least no-one died! :)
 
  by: andy68man   07/31/2008 10:20 AM     
  It is  
 
luck that personal injury did not happen, if the house's proprietor sues the police then perhapse the family may receive some kind of compensation I think.
 
  by: vizhatlan     07/31/2008 12:34 PM     
  Dot dot dot =.=  
 
squad leader : we will raid in 1 min
officer1: err sir ..
squad leader: OK WERE BREACHING GOGO

dot dot dot

officer2: isnt this the wrong house?
officer1: dunno oo? the capt wants in
officer3: quiet u retards and get into position

officer 4: WERE UNDER FIRE hELP MEEEE
Officer 3:AH CRAP IM RUNNING , THIS DUDE IS NUTS
Squad leader: ITS THE WRONG EFFING HOUSE OH EM GE
Officer 1: YOU ASIAN
ps: i am asian to so no racism intended
 
  by: baozytools   07/31/2008 04:28 PM     
  @l'anglais  
 
What can't you comprehend? The person who provided the information to the unit that raided the home may have not even been on the unit. They may be sitting in a cozy office somewhere.

The SWAT team is not responsible for collecting information. They are a highly trained, specialized team that performs a specific task. If the information is bad, it is not the fault of the SWAT team but the investigator that collected the information and ordered the raid. So stop trying to place blame on every cop just because you are anti-police.

Even the investigator may not be responsible either. Raids happen based on information. This information I would suspect is highly subjective and must be scrutinized for credible integrity. The investigator would have to be reckless in his decision process and not acting in good faith when he made the order for the raid. Either way, the SWAT team members awarded had acted on orders.

They would only be at fault if they raided the wrong house. (ie. 69 John Street versus 96 John Street.)
 
  by: yortap2   07/31/2008 04:39 PM     
  Death By Gunfire  
 
Is always the responsibility of the person that pulls the trigger.

If you are enough of an idiot to shoot someone just because your boss told you to you are to fincompetqant to have a gun.

It is the responsibility of every person on that team to be damn sure of the information before going in. That is why they have briefings and tactical planning before a raid.


Just because some dork on the street says your dealing is not enough.

 
  by: ichi     07/31/2008 08:37 PM     
  @ichi  
 
No. It is not the responsibility of each and every member of the team. That causes duplicity/redundancy. In wars (justified or not) do you think that every single military personnel from the top to bottom of the chain of command investigate the information.

If you read my comment, then you would see that I never said that "just because some dork on the street says your dealing is enough." (note: I typed your as you spelled it instead of you're)

"If you are enough of an idiot to shoot someone just because your boss told you to you are to fincompetqant to have a gun."

Please give some thought to your comments before posting. Please find me any article pertaining to this incident where their "boss" told them to shoot someone as you have suggested. The guns are there for protection. They didn't go in intending to shoot.
 
  by: yortap2   07/31/2008 09:22 PM     
  This Is The Difference  
 
Between the military and the police.

This was a police operation against a civilian not a military action against an enemy. Big difference.
 
  by: ichi     08/01/2008 05:06 AM     
  @Maxx  
 
go to hell. It was America that stopped "Nazi Germany". America. Not you, or whatever country you're from. America. The war might be wrong, but we aren't commiting genocide there. We only kill people that shoot first. There's a difference there so large you fall in the canyon of idiocy by comparing the two. You think we are tools that blindly obey our master? What country do you live in? More U.S. military members supported anti-war presidential candidates than pro-war. What actual evidence to you have that America has become like Nazi Germany?
 
  by: promontorium   08/01/2008 06:43 PM     
  @ichi  
 
What? I don't even know what you are trying to explain/justify/counter with your comment.

I guess you had no reasonable rebuttal.

Criminals are an enemy to my country.
 
  by: yortap2   08/01/2008 07:17 PM     
  @velger  
 
"Noone in the home (who were firing back) was killed. or injured. I think that is pretty brave and smart -- they could've probably mowed everyone down if they'de of just panicked."

Or if they weren't such lousy shots.
 
  by: biggfredd   08/02/2008 07:08 AM     
  @securityunion  
 
"take it from the Officers position, they raid a home and getting shot at, now these guys get paid sh-t and have to deal with a-holes and violence day after day"

They don't have to deal with violence. They could wait until the people they want go grocery shopping and arrest them when they're not expecting it.

That doesn't make nearly as impressive TV footage as kicking in someone's door, tho.
 
  by: biggfredd   08/02/2008 07:29 AM     
  @prom  
   
  by: l´anglais     08/02/2008 07:55 AM     
  God Bless Amerika - and the New Homeland  
 
Citizens of the New Homeland! Do not be disturbed by the events you are witnessing. No one will come for YOU in the middle of the night. YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL. You need not worry, YOU are doing nothing wrong. You need not take any action, you are not affected. Although this criminal Phang was not wanted for drugs, he DID possess a gun, and we all know that ONLY CRIMINALS NEED GUNS. Only criminals would resist the Homeland's dedicated police. Reset assured, the police, and your new benevolent Homeland, are here to serve you. NOW GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS - THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
 
  by: Reich_Citizen   08/02/2008 04:46 PM     
  @l'anglais  
 
maybe you need to read the article before replying to my comment next time.

Please don't tell me you are that blind to think these guys are at fault, if you do....then you really need to check yourself because your bias is reeking miles away.
 
  by: sp00ky187   08/03/2008 01:52 AM     
 
 
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