Cook Islands: Scientology Volunteer Ministers Tent Back Up
A presentation tent of the Scientology Volunteer Ministers - that had been taken down last month to prevent a legal battle - went up again now after the church clarified its position with the Ministry of Justice of Cook Islands.
Mathew Andrews, Volunteer Ministers Pacific director noted that the earlier objection came from a clique who, instead of meeting with them to sort out the matter elected legal tactics to "forward their agenda".
"We have met with a number of religious leaders here on Rarotonga as well as many other people and we have struck nothing but goodwill and interest in what we are doing", he said. The tent with be on display until end of next week.
"Clarified its position" = "threatened to sue" or worse? These are NOT nice people.
Honestly, I usually say "you worship yoru gods, I'll worship mine and let's keep it that way" but Scientology is a bunch of scary, scary stuff and highly aggressive about it. Just listen to them scream when you criticize them. Nothing even remotely intelligent/scientific about it.
Last time someone called her/him/it out on it she/he/it did, for about a day. Then it was back to the usual reporting good news on Scientology while flaming people who post bad news SSDD bull.
I am posting about religious subjects, usually, and yes, I am trying to balance the "everybody knows the cult is evil" brainless crap with some facts and figures because I got sick and tired of these obvious PR stunts. Contrary to the usual online spin-doctors of the anti-scientology front though I am not using unreliable or anonymous sources for articles, though there would be hundreds of pro-Scientology articles on the web to chose from.
Who is anti scientology "Brainless crap"? from what I have read on the subject, and yes, I have read a lot pro and con, the detractors of scientology have a valid point, and all the "We're not that bad a bunch of people. See all the good things we do?" stories you post on here doesn't help the fact that the scientologist community is up to some highly unusual (What people normally call insane) things.
So you keep posting, the detractors will keep firing back, and the sane ones on here will keep reading and laughing at both of you....
No. I called Scientologists insane, but the word I really wanted to use was "kooks", "weirdos", insane was a euphamism. I was trying to be nice. But if the shoe fits....
Now.... go back to your agenda please. I need a little entertainment.
What? the cult paid something to try to ridicule i
That's one of the many probabilities : indeed, that cult does not suffer to be ridiculed, so, many times, it uses menaces, threats, blackmail, counter-attacks, or briberies to defend itself when its finances and reputation are at stake.
"hundreds of pro-Scientology articles on the web to chose from."
Yeah, but those articles only come from Scientology front groups or the Scientologists that are going around and using all the free posting places like Shortnews,PR-Inside.com (Pressemitteilung),American Chronicle, CA and places like that.
Even if that were true, most of the "anti-Scientology" stuff these days comes from "reliable sources" like Indybay, Glosslip and other blogs created by Anonymouses, Synonymouses or paid advertisers.
Throw your stones but don't be surprised that you'll be hit back.
Hubbard once said in a lecture talking about critical reaction -almost as if it (Scientology) were designed that way- But it baffles me that critics work so hard to criticize, that critics spend good bandwidth money in websites, that anonymous goes out in rainy weather to protest. I mean what is to argue? You walk in the door or you don't. You donate and take a course or you don't. Why protest - but people do. Personally I think it revolves around Hubbard's definition.
Scientology is a study of knowledge - to understand it. (My add is a summation and not a direct quote). Critics read something like this: "Scientology is manipulation of your knowledge against your will". Funny.
If you were entirely honest regarding what Hubbard says of critics and critical thoughts, you would have added that for scientologists, ANY critic is judged as criminal, and any critical act or thought is supposedly coming from past sins, "overt acts", and undisclosed negative actions. Which show that Hubbard was a totalitarian mind, wanting power above anything else, and hiding himself tons of criminal activities.
Roger, you as a "critic" might feel attacked, but you have yet to show some criticism worth discussing. All you come up with is generalities, insult and personal attacks. I understand you want to be taken serious, but just as me you will have to work on that.
Scientology news of any kind, Critics respond with exaggerated generalizations. When that doesn't make a big enough impact, along comes invective language, personal challenge or personal attack. Then what? Well someone, (sometimes me), who has understood some Scientology, reacts. This happens a lot here on shortnews.
If Catholics find their Church and community helpful in life, why bother them? If Lutheran or Protestant, how does their thought and fellowhip bother you?
The Planet is large, people! Life abounds! Religion is but a thought in the mind of the practitioner!
The one who answered my last post says that I'm speaking by generalities. Really? It seems that's not quite general to remind something perfectly known since decades about Hubbard and scientologists, I mean,that these people do consider anybody criminal as soon as he/she utters something against their cult; and the fact that they consider that anyone having criticized anything hais in fact the one to be condemned for his/her sins against the object of his/her critics! That's in no way a generality, it's the way Hubbard worked out a method to always put the responsability of scientology crimes on its members, or on people outside.
I'm hereby never ever clicking on any link that has the word "Scientology" in it. It's all the same old crap, Luana or Terryeo hopelessly trying to make CoS look good and anon accounts trying to make it look bad, in the end, they both suck.
I'm an ex-regional leader and founder of a cult's profit center and working since 25 years to dismantle the fraudulous scam. And whatever I'm saying is based not only on my experience, but on precise orders given by Hubbard and followed by his adepts. "Kolman", you're going nowhere by trying to detract anons or non-anonymous people when they criticize your cult. Because your issue here leads people to try to obtain that people do not read anything about scientology crimes. Gift for you: http://www.xs4all.nl/
That in this age, people still need a "god" to feel fulfilled. Sad, sad. Well, keep it to yourself, dont want to hear about it, it shamefull to our species.
Terryeo, an anonymous scientologist who lies in almost every message he/she makes or, explains that I'm not anon. Yes, I've indeed almost always announced who I am, and indeed, the criminal cult scientology has sued me times after times, and now, it tries to get other cults to attack me - but I win. Defending myself !
I haven't interacted before with you at all, unless you edited wikipedia with an undisclosed editing identity. I want to thank you, Roger, for making your position clear.
You said you weren't anonymous. I agreed and provided some link that illustrated my agreement. Whereupon you call me a liar. I don't travel around the world, squashing religious freedom as you do Roger, nor do I have french government connections as you are rumored to have.
I do have some peace of mind, however because I pay attention when people announce their attitude, as you have done.
You know quite perfectly well, as I did when I was a high level scientologist decades ago, that scientology has never been a religion, nor will ever be. So, you know that you're lying when you pretend that I'm travelling around attacking religions. I'm a free citizen, speaking of cults (most often, scientology) or of religions or anything else. What's the problem for you? That I'm daring to attack the fraudulous scam called scientology. That's all there is behind your many attacks against critics of that cult.
"You know quite perfectly well, as I did when I was a high level scientologist decades ago, that scientology has never been a religion, nor will ever be."
I disagree but have my own opinion, as you have yours. My opinion is at http://www.wikinfo.org/ and scholarly opinion at http://www.bonafidescientology.org/ "So, you know that you're lying when you pretend that I'm traveling around attacking religions. I'm a free citizen, speaking of cults (most often, scientology) or of religions or anything else."
Do you suggest my lie is: 1) that you travel or 2) that you criticize or 3) that you break laws?
"What's the problem for you? That I'm daring to attack the fraudulous scam called scientology. That's all there is behind your many attacks against critics of that cult."
In fact, I agreed with you that you are not anonymous. Apparently you view people who agree with your statements, as lying to you and attacking you.
Terryeo, you should stop ridiculizing your cult. When you're quoting things, better avoid quoting what is only or mostly from scientology sources. Do you ignore that, even if the IRS has finally accepted the so-called religion of yours, it has done so while the Federa Supremer Court had refused it twice, and never came back to these decisions? You'd better learn.
