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McCain So Rich He Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Has

 

Republican presidential candidate John McCain has told reporters that he wasn't sure how many houses he and his rich wife own, stating that he would have to get his staff to check into it for him.

The comments came days after he joked that being rich in the U.S. meant earning at least $5 million a year.

After researching the facts, he told reporters that he and his wife had at least four houses in three states, although Newsweek recently estimated the real number was closer to seven.

 
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  i don't suppose he would like to donate..  
 
half of those to the people who have lost their homes.

Oh, he would get my vote alright!
 
  by: captainJane     08/21/2008 05:13 PM     
  this guy  
 
is by far more of a moron than W is. He dosn't know how many houses he owns? And he failed the middle eastern geography quiz. Why is it that we elect old rich dumb people over the average middle class smart people.
 
  by: Devil Duck     08/21/2008 05:32 PM     
  Wait a minute  
 
This sounds like something an elitist would do ... but Fox News tells me that Obama is the elitist! I'm so confused!!!

Seriously, though, this just goes to show how stupid it is to level criticisms at an opponent that could easily be turned around back on you. It's bad enough that he owns so many homes when he calls Obama an elitist -- worse still is that he can't remember how many he has.

Here's a funny chart from earlier in the primaries where the candidates' height represent how rich they are (pretty big image):

http://memlingcandidates.googlepages.com/...
 
  by: l´anglais     08/21/2008 05:44 PM     
  @Devil Duck  
 
Because average joes usually dont have the money to obtain these positions. Registration fees, party fees, advertising, etc.

Always wondered why someone would pay nearly $367,227,801 for a job that only pays $400,000 per year...
 
  by: slavefortheman     08/21/2008 05:49 PM     
  Think if we raised property taxes  
 
he'd have an easier time remembering how many homes he owns?

Maybe not. Mine are worked into my monthly payments along with HOA fees.

~Syl
 
  by: morgora     08/21/2008 05:50 PM     
  @slave  
 
They dream of world domination? Control freaks? Want to charge huge "speaker's fees"?

No, I'm pretty sure it's so they can fiddle with laws and give themselves a huge financial advantage and make it easier to line their own pockets, and those of their friends, when they're done "serving" in government.

~Syl
 
  by: morgora     08/21/2008 05:52 PM     
  so an appropriate question may be...  
 
does he need them?
 
  by: dieu_7     08/21/2008 06:55 PM     
  Does it matter?  
 
it doesnt matter how many houses he has, the real
question is did he get a sweet heart land deal like
obama did from a shiesty imbezzler like tony resco?
?


All of mccains houses couldnt compare to kerrys
one house,i mean come on. Did mccain get a sweet
heart deal like obama.
 
  by: cray0la     08/21/2008 07:26 PM     
  Dieu_7  
 
I think he will share it out between the homeless people.
 
  by: vizhatlan     08/21/2008 08:16 PM     
  @cray0la  
 
He got better than a sweetheart deal. I'm pretty sure his very wealthy wife paid for most of them. You know, the one he was committing adultery with before he divorced his first wife? Not that I blame him at all. The first wife WAS horribly disfigured in an accident. It's only natural he should decide to end the adultery with Cindy after Carol's accident and just divorce the horrid creature. Who wants to be married to an ugly person? Puh-lease! Besides, Cindy has a lot more money than he and the (butt-ugly, crippled and mangled) first wife ever had.

It's ok. I'm sure his pastor, you know, the one who says American was formed specifically to destroy Islam, said it was all God's will.

If you're going to sling mud, at least do it evenly. We independent, moderate, centrist types have dirt on EVERYONE, and believe me, none of them are even remotely clean. McCain is slightly slimier than Obama, but slime is slime, no matter how much of it there is on someone.

~Syl
(Didn't McCain also call Cindy a "f**king c**t" in front of members of the press and his staff? Niiiiice. If I'd had been her I would have taken the houses away and made him go back to the fugly chick.)
 
  by: morgora     08/21/2008 08:29 PM     
  I have to tune out of this presidential race.  
 
It's making me hate Americans again, and I know that's wrong.
 
  by: Mister crank     08/21/2008 09:32 PM     
  @cray0la  
 
Nothing about Obama's house has been proven; it's all shady rumors from people who want to win an election through shameless slander. I'm about to start a thread on that in the forums, if you'd care to check it out.

McCain and his wife didn't pay taxes on one of their properties for years. Don't see you howling about that, or, as Morgora pointed out, McCain's current marriage began as an adulterous affair after McCain got back home, found that his wife was disfigured in a car accident, and then shopped around until he found a new wife 18 years younger than him.
 
  by: l´anglais     08/21/2008 09:36 PM     
  I forgot to ask  
 
why do we care about Kerry's house? Isn't he, like McCain, married to an heiress? Catsup for Kerry and Beer for McCain, isn't it?

I can't quite figure out why I'm suppose to be upset about Kerry's house, though. IS *anyone* upset over Kerry's house or is it just Crayola?

I only dig dirt on people who are actually politically relevant, by the way. I'm not even sure I care about them, so why should I care about the people who don't mean a damn thing this election season?

~Syl
 
  by: morgora     08/21/2008 09:47 PM     
  @Morgora  
 
"I can't quite figure out why I'm suppose to be upset about Kerry's house, though."

Because the modern Republican counterpoint to an accusation is almost always moral or factual relativism. If you can link any hypocrisy or impropriety to an accusation made against any Democrat ever, you needn't hold it against the accused Republican. It's been the sad, slow decline of the party of personal responsibility.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     08/21/2008 10:03 PM     
  @  
 
Well, supposedly Kerry's house burns more electricity than the Sun, and that makes him a big hypocrite, but he IS pretty much irrelevant in this race.


And how could you understand the average American if you don't own seven houses?
If you want someone to represent your people, McCain is the man. :)

Btw how many does Obama own? I don't imagine he lives in a 1br apartment near china town like the average white collar.
 
  by: silentrage   08/21/2008 10:23 PM     
  All you Bush bashers,  
 
wait 2-3 years. No matter who gets elected, it's gonna make Bush look like the best prez we ever had.
 
  by: elzorro   08/21/2008 10:43 PM     
  @elzorro, silentrage  
 
E: Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid, but that speculation is a pretty pathetic defense...also virtually impossible. Bush's legacy isn't about appearances, it's about incompetance and corruption. That's not relative to public opinion, and isn't likely to change even if the next President completely tanks the country.

S: I don't know how many houses Obama owns, but regardless of the right-wing noise, the guy's not the elitist in this race: http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Sen.John McCain(R-Ariz.)

Net worth: $25-$38 million

Details: McCain and his wife Cindy have substantial real estate holdings in Arizona -- including a home worth more than $1 million and land worth between $1.5 million and $3 million. Most of the wealth comes from Cindy, who has more than $1 million in beer distributor Hensley & Co., which her father founded. McCain has written three books.

Sen.Barack Obama(D-Ill.)

Net worth: $1-$2.5 million*

Details: In January 2005, Obama agreed to a $1.9 million advance from Random House for two non-ficton books and a children's book, of which $200,000 is being donated to charity. One of those books -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- has been a huge best seller since being released in October. He owns a home worth at least $1.6 million in Chicago.

*His wealth is likely to have increased significantly because of the huge success of "The Audacity of Hope"
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     08/21/2008 11:05 PM     
  @elzorro  
 
That would pretty much take a miracle...considering that pretty much every President you've ever had (pre-Bush) was better than Bush.
 
  by: StarShadow     08/21/2008 11:17 PM     
  Ex-con/McCain is too old  
 
to remember how many houses he has.


 
  by: Mannyishere     08/21/2008 11:56 PM     
  @CJ  
 
The houses are probably already occupied. Owning a house doesn't mean you live in it, or that it is empty unless you choose to spend a week there. Most people who own property lease it.
 
  by: lauriesman     08/22/2008 02:29 AM     
  I'm inclined to agree with lauriesman  
 
The ones he didn't remember are probably income properties.
 
  by: Mister crank     08/22/2008 03:17 AM     
  @lauriesman, mister crank  
 
You may very well be right. But you have to put it into context; McCain has been campaigning as the down-to-earth Everyman and trying to portray Obama as an elitist, while being rich enough not to be able to remember how many properties he owns. More lies from the Christian Party.
 
  by: l´anglais     08/22/2008 05:35 AM     
  Mccain camp strikes back  
 
heres a statement from them, i think its GREAT!

McCain camp says, "Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii, and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?
 
  by: cray0la     08/22/2008 06:09 AM     
  and  
 
"Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people 'cling to guns and religion' in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who's in touch with regular Americans? The reality is that Barack Obama's plans to raise taxes and opposition to producing more energy here at home as gas prices skyrocket, show that he is completely out of touch with the concerns of average Americans." This is true, and that is the essential definition of elitism.
 
  by: cray0la     08/22/2008 06:10 AM     
  I don't know why we should  
 
be upset because Obama's house cost $250K more than mine. Does that mean he's too poor to be president? Or does it mean he might actually be "into" some sort of fiscal responsibility? Or does it mean he isn't smart enough to be pres because he didn't get as good a deal as I did on a house and his is probably in a crap state?

Maybe we should be upset because he isn't supporting the economy by buying a house he can't afford? Everyone knows when you do that, the bank gets paid twice. Once when you put the money down and then again when you default and the government (taxpayer) bails them out because they gave so many loans to people who were supporting the economy by buying houses they couldn't afford.

Or something like that.

By the way, since when does someone take responsibility for another person's actions of which they were completely unaware? If I found out my real estate agent was crooked or something AFTER we did business, am I automatically bad or even to blame for his poor behavior? I don't know Steve isn't an embezzler, but it's generally not something I ask people before doing business with them. (Unless, of course, I was looking to replace my accountant, Phil. Then I'd definitely include that in the interview questions/background check.) Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Is that off the table now, too? I thought republicans were into that kind of thing. Does it not hold if a democrat is involved? Does that mean dems get a free pass if they personally do something bad? Or is it only the person who knows the dem that gets the free pass? How do repubs figure into this? Can independents play? We would love to play, just a lot of people act a little scared of us sometimes because of our latent misanthropia where public officials, lobbyists and partisan hacks are concerned. I would like to know these new rules regarding responsibility and blame-placing tinged with misleading innuendo, please. They could be profitable!

~Syl
 
  by: morgora     08/22/2008 06:34 AM     
  @cray0la  
 
Can you call a man who disputes the basic scientific fact that proper inflation of tires can immediately save you 4% on gas consumption Not a retard?
In fact it is the definition of "retard" according to the new oxford dictionary.

Oh yeah, sorry cray0la, I forgot to say, I think drilling is a good idea too, I can't wait to get that lower gas price in 30 years!
 
  by: silentrage   08/22/2008 06:36 AM     
  @Cray0la  
 
Yeah, it's great if you love slippery politicians. McCain points out Obama made millions last year, attempting to connect with the common man; and yes, the man of common intelligence might buy that. That man wouldn't ask how much the man pandering to him made as he tries to make his rival look like the elitist.

Obama talks to the country like they're grownups and he's called "out of touch." McCain talks to them like they're ignorant sheep and he's in touch? God, I hope you (and the McCain campaign) is wrong, or we're in a lot of trouble.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     08/22/2008 07:26 AM     
  In McCain's Defense  
 
At the time Mr. McCain couldn't answer the question correctly because he didn't know if his cave that he left vacated caved in 2008 years ago.
 
  by: ohioankev   08/22/2008 01:38 PM     
  Alternate TITLE  
 
"McCain So OLD He Doesn't Know How Many Houses He Has"
 
  by: Kuhl   08/22/2008 01:48 PM     
  One more thing about Obama's wealth  
 
It was earned by writing a book, which is a dream a lot of people have (realistic or not) as one of the few ways they could ever make a lot of money.

It was *not* earned by marrying into wealth on the strength of a name that, among elitist circles, isn't quite as famous as "Bush," but still pretty high up there.

For example, the McCain family owned a Southern plantation for over a century. If Obama's ancestors had been in America rather than Kenya during that century, I shudder to think how they'd have fit into any sentence involving the words "Southern plantation."
 
  by: l´anglais     08/22/2008 05:35 PM     
  @elzorro  
 
As a Bush fanboy, I'd love for you to help me out with a question I've never been able to get a straight answer to.

Please could you name me five positive achievements of the Bush administration?

I am curious what it is you believe Bush has done that makes him such a great President.
 
  by: ZCT     08/22/2008 07:36 PM     
  @ZCT  
 
Admiral McCain (John McCain's father) was also in charge of two very important historical events. The Golf of Tonkin incident, and the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty by Israel. Lets just say the McCain's are major players in false flag events, and I wouldn't doubt if McCain has knowledge of undisclosed information related to the 9/11 attacks.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     08/23/2008 07:57 AM     
  Good for Him  
 
I don't care if he has 20 homes, he earned them. This class envy and jealously is incredible. Seriously, go to China and be Communist if you have an issue with success.
 
  by: vbened   08/23/2008 10:10 AM     
  @vbened  
 
Obvious troll is obvious.
 
  by: silentrage   08/23/2008 10:13 AM     
  @vbened  
 
Again, it's not about how many houses he has, or how much money or anything else McCain has. The fact is that while he has all these things, he's trying to make himself out like he better understands the lives of ordinary Americans than Obama. The fact that he's lying is underscored by his posh lifestyle, which in turn is underscored by the fact that he can't remember how many houses he owns.

Get it yet?
 
  by: l´anglais     08/23/2008 05:03 PM     
  @vbened  
 
I'm sure this kind of discussion is pretty complicated for some. So let me help you out.

First off, his wife is the one with the inherited money, so it is generally her wealth not his.

Secondly, the issue isn't anything to do with him being rich, or his wife being rich. Everyone knows it is a prerequisite for running for president these days. The issue is that McCain has repeatedly attacked Obama for being 'elitist' and out of touch with the American people. Whereas in reality this is political BS.

It doesn't get much more elite than declaring that you don't know how many houses you own, and having to rely on staff to research it for you. That's along the lines of 'let them eat cake.'

So the story is about the pot calling the kettle black, rather than how many houses McCain has. If you take a few moments to think just a little below the surface, you might be able to figure this stuff out by yourself.
 
  by: ZCT     08/23/2008 05:09 PM     
  forgot @vbened  
 
"he earned them"

That almost made me spit out my coffee. McCain has spent almost his entire adult working life either as a soldier or a Congressman, and neither position pays you nearly enough to afford eight nice houses. No, McCain's money comes mostly from the family of his wife Cindy.
 
  by: l´anglais     08/23/2008 05:09 PM     
  What..  
 
I find particularly sickening, is how he treated his ex-wife. I mean, someone who would cheat on then dump his injured wife, so that he can marry an 18-year-younger and richer woman, just doesn't strike me as being a presidential type of person.
 
  by: StarShadow     08/23/2008 05:28 PM     
  @guys  
 
Uh... obvious troll is obvious? :)
 
  by: silentrage   08/23/2008 05:54 PM     
  @silent  
 
Obviously... :p
 
  by: StarShadow     08/23/2008 06:24 PM     
  We has a troll.  
 
Is not so gret akshully.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     08/23/2008 08:12 PM     
  @silentrage  
 
I don't think you listened closely to McCain's comment on Obama recommending people have tires inflated properly. In fact, the next day (I believe) he recommended the same thing and elaborated that inflating your tires is not the long-term solution to break the USA's dependence on foreign oil.

Obama and McCain are both right that we should have our tires inflated properly. We also should drive the speed limit, especially on the highways and freeways (where driving faster greatly reduces mpg). But you seem to have missed the point: neither of those "solves" the reliance on foreign oil problem, although they could help to slightly reduce oil/gas demand/consumption.

Btw, I agree that off-shore drilling is not the answer either. It could help increase world supply and slightly decrease risk to that supply. Unless we get off of oil or at least greatly increase diversify our energy sources we will continue to be at the mercy of those who have and pump the oil.
 
  by: bobjones     08/24/2008 12:44 AM     
  Elitist Or A Senior Moment ?  
 
Either way he is not fit for office.
 
  by: ichi     08/24/2008 04:22 AM     
  StarShadow  
 
Yeah. The christian side of the man just can't be contained.
If he treated some one he swore before his god to cherish for the rest of his life like that, how could you entrust the country to him. His promised are shallow just like his buddy George's.
 
  by: ichi     08/24/2008 04:28 AM     
  @silentrage  
 
its not 30 years

its 7

and sorry to bust your bubble that your in but its not what matters today its what matters tomarrow and when in 7 years gas has skyrocketed and then oil prices start to drop like a brick when our own reserves start to fill from our own domestic oil so your not going to be happy about it??

right lets not drill because we just shouldnt do it.. makes no sense

and another thing, gas prices fell the lowest they have since 2004 on friday, now imagine if we started to drill off our coasts how much more it would fall on just the WORD that we were going after our own oil on our lands.

its not really that hard to grasp but then again for someone like you it might really be.
 
  by: cray0la     08/25/2008 09:58 AM     
  @cray0la  
 
Look, I know you're a big fan of drilling for oil. You love it so much you bring it into every topic. You probably jerk off to footage of Bush lifting the ban. Maybe you should step back and really look at yourself. Realizing you have a problem is the first step.

Secondly, I don't know where you get your information from, maybe a channel that rhymes with Box News? But the Bush Administration's very own department of energy says the effects of drilling won't be felt until 2030. Oh, I'm sorry, it's 22 years. My bad.

I know seeing something on TV can be pretty convincing to the dim witted followers of the shadowy GOP overlords.
But if you watched more than one channel, but this clip should change your mind.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/...

It takes 7 years, it takes 4-6 years, it takes 3-5 years, it takes 3 years, it takes 2 years, it takes 1 years, it takes a few months.
LOL
 
  by: silentrage   08/25/2008 10:57 AM     
  Who cares  
 
they have a portfolio that also included investing in housing.
The way the economy is now he should be buying up big.
Pure and simple people if you can afford to buy, as people always will rent.
 
  by: thinking   08/25/2008 11:08 AM     
  @thinking  
 
This question has been asked, and answered already.

The reason this is an issue is because McCain has been trying to play the role of man of the people, while casting Obama as an elitist in this version of reality.

So it is a little silly and hypocritical to be throwing the term elitist around, when you are too rich to know how many houses you own.

It also smacks of lies and deceit, because anyone with a brain realizes that without substantial financial backing, you are never going to be able to run for president.
 
  by: ZCT     08/25/2008 03:01 PM     
  Pfffft.  
 
If a person is in real estate, it is not only possible, but likely that the exact number and/or location of propertie may not instantly come to mnd. That's what business records are for. That's especially true, when the business is a partnership, and that managing partner handles most of the details.

Does he need it? Who the hell cares? He (together with his wife) bought it, and it's theirs. You want something, go buy it. No money? Wait until you do. Figure out how to save. Figuring out how to save is the main difference between the haves, and the have-nots. The have-not tend to lay about and whine and whimper about their plight, and rely on others to bail tehir sorry asses out. They need to get up, and get doing something constructive, (you might have to turn of Simpsons or American Idol to accomplish this). Hell, we all have your priorities. You want to lay about, knock youself out. Don't whine because someone else IS actually doing something.

So, you're holding his being rich against him? Many people see being rich as being successful. Not necessarily in my book, but I will grant you that being dirt poor is NO measure of any kind of success. Sure, there are extenuating circumstances, to where you CAN'T rise up, no matter what you do.

McCain's bad for being rich, eh? What about Obama? Hillary? Pelosi? Reid? Think they aren't richer than stink? Look again.
 
  by: LeePIII   08/26/2008 05:36 PM     
  @Leephil  
 
Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you the Lack of Reading Comprehension Award 2008.

"This question has been asked, and answered already.

The reason this is an issue is because McCain has been trying to play the role of man of the people, while casting Obama as an elitist in this version of reality.

So it is a little silly and hypocritical to be throwing the term elitist around, when you are too rich to know how many houses you own.

It also smacks of lies and deceit, because anyone with a brain realizes that without substantial financial backing, you are never going to be able to run for president."

-ZCT
 
  by: silentrage   08/26/2008 05:59 PM     
 
 
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