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06/23/2009 11:06 PM ID: 79301 Permalink   

Minutemen Slay Father and Daughter While Robbing Family

 

AZ: Shauna Forde, leader of the Minutemen American Defense, along with three accomplices were arrested and charged with first degree murder. The trio forced their way into a home and fatally shot the father and 9-year-old daughter during their raid.

After the initial shooting, the mother drove off the invaders but was injured during the exchange. Official sources claim the motive was financial. The dead husband was involved in narcotics and the robbers hoped he had cash and drugs at their home.

At a press conference, the Sheriff's office said the assailants had planned to leave no one alive and that Forde was the ringleader.

 
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  911 call Audio.  
 
Not from source, but here's the audio of the 911 call.

Audio
http://crooksandliars.com/...

 
  by: redstain   06/23/2009 11:11 PM     
  Minuteman my Ass  
 
That is no minuteman, that is a low grade murdering scum piece of crap.
Capital punishment for the 3.
 
  by: thinking   06/23/2009 11:18 PM     
  That should be 4  
 
All that rage boiling over.
Scum and try to hind behind a banner of noble people.
I think not.
 
  by: thinking   06/23/2009 11:21 PM     
  Take a look at the link.  
 
That poor woman, she will never get over that!
 
  by: captainJane     06/23/2009 11:25 PM     
  This ...  
 
is exactly the type of scenario they are going to use to be the poster child for gun control and disbanding local militias. These guys are no more minutemen then bank robbers, almost even trying to hide behind the banner of vigilante to boot.
 
  by: netwerk     06/23/2009 11:29 PM     
  that is so horrible  
 
first the cancer girl that got to see UP, then this. what a sad week. that poor woman is in shock, when the shock passes, the grief is going to be horrible.
 
  by: robplatt   06/23/2009 11:48 PM     
  @netwerk: "they've come to get our guns"  
 
"poster child for gun control" - netwerk

Rest easy. This is a poster child for 'immigration issues'. They won't come after your guns.

There won't be any clamp downs - but what will happen is the Minutemen and their cause will become *that little bit* more marginalized.

You know what I'm saying is true.
 
  by: redstain   06/23/2009 11:48 PM     
  Shawna Forde & FAIR  
 
A video of her is also included in link.

Apparently, they were trying to 'raise funds' for their group by robbery.
 
  by: redstain   06/24/2009 12:04 AM     
  Shawna Forde & FAIR  
 
A video of her is also included in link.

Apparently, they were trying to 'raise funds' for their group by robbery.
http://www.americasvoiceonline.org/...
 
  by: redstain   06/24/2009 12:05 AM     
  They Are A Bunch Of Right Wing Flakes  
 
Racist idiots.
 
  by: ichi     06/24/2009 12:54 AM     
  @ichi  
 
While the actions of the particular members described in this article disgust me, the minutemen aren't just racists idiots. They're protecting the border because the government won't. If they were white people jumping the border instead of mexicans, the minutemen would still be there. In fact, contrary to popular belief, a large portion of mexicans are in fact of solely Spanish origin (not mestizo), which qualifies them as white.
 
  by: rippler2k3   06/24/2009 07:40 AM     
  As I Said Right Wing Flakes  
 
Here are the web pages for these racist hate organizations.

I live close to where Shauna Forde's group spouted the bile of these organizations. It is the the same rhetoric dressed in the same cloth.
Now they can't distance themselves fast enough from the results of there hate.

http://www.fairus.org/...

http://minutemanproject.com/...
 
  by: ichi     06/24/2009 05:22 PM     
  Everyone except FOX seems to address this issue.  
 
This is not just an 'odd' homicide story.


“Some are using the movement to promote their own bigoted, racist ideology,” said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino. “But I want to be clear: That’s not everyone in the movement, and it poses a real problem.”

He said the movement’s message attracts people with ulterior motives. Larger groups try to patrol their ranks for potentially troublesome people but have no power to stop exiles like Forde from starting splinter groups, and even from using the Minuteman name.




"Arizona killings rock anti-illegal immigration movement, highlight risk of fringe activists"
http://www.latimes.com/...

 
  by: redstain   06/24/2009 05:33 PM     
  @ripple2k3  
 
if these were real minutemen rather than a redneck-gun-nut-racist-faux-patriotic cult (and based on the minutemen i've heard of in the last several years thats a damned apt descriptions) they would ONLY EVER be active in a state of emergency, not because their pissed off at the government, the economy (and thusly the job market) and foreigners.

if they want to protect the borders tell them to become politicans or border patrol rather than be a redneck-gun-nut-racist-faux-patriotic cult.


and might i add the ONLY reason they use the name minuteman is because the revolutionary war's minutemen were held in a very high regard, they just hijacked the name hoping to hijack their reputattion too.
 
  by: HAVOC666     06/24/2009 05:40 PM     
  Man...  
 
America is a nice place. Has nice people. And has some of the most coked up ceo's of the time. I have a solution to how we punish them. Electric chair, electric chair, electic chair, and cyinide injection for Shauna
 
  by: Dolphin Commando   06/24/2009 06:35 PM     
  Did anyone notice the heros  
 
The woman that was shot in the leg after her family had just been killed. she stayed calmer than anyone could have expected after just witnessing what just happened. The 911 dispatcher did an outstanding job of keeping her calm and getting information. I think the reason for the delay in the police getting there was possibly that the residence did not have a 911 address in plain sight.
 
  by: bamammv   06/24/2009 09:36 PM     
  @thinking  
 
"That is no minuteman, that is a low grade murdering scum piece of crap."

No, "low grade murdering scum piece of crap" is definitely "Minuteman".



@rippler2k3
"In fact, contrary to popular belief, a large portion of mexicans are in fact of solely Spanish origin (not mestizo), which qualifies them as white."

Where are the Canadian border Minutemen?
 
  by: lafinjack   06/25/2009 01:59 AM     
  @rippler2k3  
 
Meant to quote this:

"If they were white people jumping the border instead of mexicans, the minutemen would still be there."
 
  by: lafinjack   06/25/2009 02:00 AM     
  ....  
 
@ichi
I get the feeling anyone who takes a stance against illegal immigration is a "right wing flake" to you. And Ford might be associated with FAIR, but the Minuteman Project is not. It's also obvious they are not supporting this nutball's actions.

@havoc
I highly doubt they're trying to style themselves after the Minutemen of the old colonial militia, they are a border defence force. Sure, they could join Border Patrol, but it doesn't take a Havoc666 to figure out that they haven't exactly been doing a great job. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/... there are estimated between 12 and 20 million illegals in the US, probably more. The vast majority are crossing the Mexican/American border.

@Lafinjack
Canada does not have an illegal immigration issue on any mass scale, we do not need them.
 
  by: rippler2k3   06/25/2009 11:36 AM     
  @rippler  
 
"Sure, they could join Border Patrol, but it doesn't take a Havoc666 to figure out that they haven't exactly been doing a great job."

there's a good reason for that too...

and thats that, the US as been trying to create a North American Union, which will for all intents of purposes merge Mexico, Canada and the US into a single borderless.

bush, harper and the president of mexico all met in ottawa behind closed doors to discuss this, and is believed they were laying the framework for the north american union the first step of which is already underway AKA security and prosperity partnership of north america.

and also i might add that not even 125 year ago the land they are illegally living in, in the US, for the most part was actually their, and was taken from them, infact 5-8 states were taken by such means from them.

"there are estimated between 12 and 20 million illegals in the US, probably more."

i'd have thought 25-30 million.

"The vast majority are crossing the Mexican/American border."

its slowing down signifigantly because of the recession, and probably from the drug war as well.
 
  by: HAVOC666     06/25/2009 05:15 PM     
  rippler2k3  
 
I live on the west coast about 20 miles south of the Canadian border. This flake comes from 20 miles south of me in Skagit County Washington. She is a Minuteman and she has been very vocal about her right wing flaky racist beliefs.
There is a vid of her on youtube http://www.youtube.com/...
 
  by: ichi     06/26/2009 01:17 AM     
  ...  
 
@Havoc666
I'm well aware of the plans for a North American Union, a major step towards a one world government. You speak of it like it's a good thing. The "power" is in the hands of too few people as it is. The funny thing is, considering the pacifists Americans/Canadians have become, the powers that be would probably be successful in implementing such a union. I get the feelings the Mexicans would be the only ones who might have enough testicular fortitude to stand up en masse and say "NO!". Ironically, they'd be the ones to benefit from it the most.

And yes, the US seceded territory from Mexico (over 150 years ago). Do you mean to tell me the people living in those states would be better off a part of Mexico?

Yes, I'm sure the recession has had an impact on illegal immigration, but not on any large scale. Economically, Mexicans are still much better off in the US and that is why them come in the first place.


@ichi
So she's from the north, but she's a minuteman. And?

What exactly did she say in that video that was inherently racist? Are you talking about the part where she says "...and it's not just hispanics, it's all races"?. Either way, I'm not defending her anyway, she's obviously a nutball. I'm defending the Minuteman project.
 
  by: rippler2k3   06/26/2009 07:09 AM     
 
 
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