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08/02/2009 04:57 PM ID: 79991 Permalink   

Uni Student Ordered to Pay $675,000 for Downloading and Sharing 30 Songs


Massachusetts: 25-year-old university student Joel Tenenbaum has been ordered to pay $675,000 to four record labels for downloading and sharing 30 songs via peer-to-peer.

Tenenbaum conceded liability so US District Judge Nancy Gertner directed the jury to come up with an award. The jury opted for $22,500 per song, well short of the $150,000 per song they could have awarded.

"I'm disappointed but not surprised... I am thankful that it wasn't much bigger, that it wasn't millions," said Tenenbaum. His lawyer, Charles Nesson, a Harvard law professor, is planning to appeal.

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  rulings like this  
only make me want to download more songs.
  by: gryphon50a   08/02/2009 07:20 PM     
  I don't download songs illegally  
Thanks honestly to iTunes, but crap like this makes me want to begin stealing. If only my morals weren't in check.

  by: NicPre     08/02/2009 08:15 PM     
  So let's say he's guilty and needs to pay  
and let us say that 30 people downloaded each piece of music, all thirty of them. This equals 900. Now, assuming the music industry charges $1 for a song, this equals a debt of $900. If we were talking about CDs it could be $9,000, but then we're not.

But hey, $22,500, whatever, right?
  by: H. W. Hutchins   08/02/2009 08:30 PM     
Pay the artist, not the label.
  by: Kolman   08/02/2009 08:46 PM     
I'm glad I don't live in the US. I have over 10k+ downloaded songs. $225 millions fee is a little bit out of my leage.
  by: pas content   08/02/2009 09:04 PM     
Do these people who get sued this they actually pay or is there some sneaky way out of it? Why is his response so calm?
  by: JayWar   08/02/2009 10:38 PM     
Well if he could squeeze his 15 minutes of fame and get a few paid news shows and maybe write a book about it he can pay off his debt and make some cash.

My question is what in the hell was the jury thinking that each song was worth $22,500?
  by: TaraB     08/03/2009 12:52 AM     
  40gb of music files and growing.  
Never bought a track, I never allow my music to be shared though, I just take.
  by: Claridus   08/03/2009 01:50 AM     
"My question is what in the hell was the jury thinking that each song was worth $22,500?"

You assume they were thinking :P
  by: agnaram   08/03/2009 11:13 PM     
That hurts. I download albums all the time for personal use. And if I like five or more songs on that album I will buy the CD. But if I only like less than a handful then [DEL] key is press as I will only like them briefly.

Good music is hard to find these days and I'm not paying for an album if it only has one good song. And iTunes can suck it as I don't do DRM. Yeah I know they have it DRM-Free now at a higher rate. I prefer the CD's as ripping them your self is the best way to insure a high quality mp3. Plus I'll put the originals in storage and place my favorites in a frame to post aa a montage on my living room wall.
  by: webfeind   08/04/2009 12:49 AM     
I don't know how they come up with $22,500, let alone $150k / song. I thought they decided they could only be awarded any damages that had been caused. They should also have to prove how many people downloaded it. As far as we know the only people who downloaded it were the RIAA goons.
  by: PeddlerOfFlesh   08/04/2009 10:20 PM     
"You assume they were thinking :P"

VERY good point!
  by: TaraB     08/04/2009 10:27 PM     
every time i read a story like this, god orders me to download at least 2 complete discographies. lol.
  by: itts   08/05/2009 04:25 AM     
Makes me proud of the fact that I haven't bought a CD since summer 2001. I think it was that box set of The Doors, got it for 20 bucks.
  by: jakethemuss   08/05/2009 05:37 PM     
  18,000 on my HD  
And the RIAA can kiss my hairy a$$. Pass the beans and cabbage. I'll make them enjoy it.
  by: mcink2   08/05/2009 09:56 PM     
  @same as most above  
I have not purchased a real physical CD since 2000. Was an ACDC CD. Other than that everything has been from downloads...
  by: slavefortheman     08/05/2009 10:50 PM     
yes, I always say ACDC when I really mean ABBA too.
  by: John E Angel     08/05/2009 11:26 PM     
  However I did buy  
a cd direct from Gary Wrights website about 8 years ago. That was a direct transaction to the artists hands: no slimy middle men. An enjoyable purchase that has NEVER been shared out in any fashion. I would be cheating Gary if I did. After seeing Meatloaf on Howard Stern lo these many years ago where his label flat out admitted they still owed him money from Bat out Of Hell and smiled when they told him to go hire a lawyer and meet them in court - they had all the time in the world: I don't lose one wink of sleep in turning the Labels into my whore.

I seem to recall Stern saying the same happened to Robert Wagner: the studio owed him money from a movie and told him to suck rocks. [I also remember him lecturing Xena Princess Warrior chic about getting an accountant, which she did not have, and auditing their books RE royalties on merchandising of Action Figures etc].

The Man will bend you over then charge you for the lube. Quick: what hand gesture am I making???
  by: mcink2   08/05/2009 11:31 PM     
  Ya Can't Sue Me, I'm Only 8  
I have 11 nieces and nephews on the internet from 8 to 20-years-old who DL gazillions of movies and songs. I don't have to DL anything like that myself. They give a lot of them to me. Their computers are their property, not mine, nor is it my connection they use for their own dirty work, they don't live here (thank God).

Besides, ya can't sue a little kid and what's 10 years in the pen to a 10-year-old anyway? (besides a degree program for a life in politics?)
J/K bugnutz
  by: DeepSand   08/07/2009 01:26 AM     
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