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09/11/2009 01:23 AM ID: 80640 Permalink   

Shouting Congressman's Opponent Raises $405,000 in 24 Hours


Rob Miller, a Democrat challenging Republican Joe Wilson in South Carolina, has raised just over $400,000 since last night's presidential speech by Barack Obama.

With a staggering 9,000 donations by just 2 p.m. ET, Miller's donation fund saw a whopping $330,000 come pouring in, as constituents from around the country, and around the state expressed their desire to change representation in Congress.

With the "liar" comment by his opponent spreading like wildfire on both sides of the fence today, fallout was expected. But for 150 minutes today, Rob Miller was making $1,000 a minute thanks in part to his opponent's "spontaneous" comment.

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Congressmans should be possessive "Congressman's"


  by: NicPre     09/11/2009 01:31 AM     
for reposting this. I read the article wrong and screwed it up earlier
  by: willyshawker     09/11/2009 01:34 AM     
  According to ActBlue  
the guy has over $550,000 now. That Joe Wilson's anger problem will be costly.
  by: H. W. Hutchins   09/11/2009 01:54 AM     
  His Son who is running for AG in SC  
Well it seems his son Alan who is running for Attorney General doesn't have much sense either according to the following.

"Wilson's eldest son, Alan — who is running for state attorney general — agreed Thursday that his father chose the wrong place to vent, but said the heckle shows that "what the president said really struck a chord."

"He is a very even-keel and calm person. My dad never gets upset," Alan Wilson said. "Last night, Dad's emotions got the better of him. ... I'm proud of my father for apologizing for the venue he voiced his opposition. I'm also proud of him for calling the president out."

So he called the president out? He wasn't lying according to FactCheck and the bill itself so just how is he lying when he says that there will be no illegal immigrants getting free health care? Keep digging and you might find your opponant getting more cash flow too, Alan Wright.
  by: TaraB     09/11/2009 02:19 AM     
  Poor Republicans  
Now the Democratic National Committee reports that it's raking in the online fundraising, too -- $1.1 million in the 18 hours since Obama's speech.

Looks like Wilson pulled a Palin (
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/11/2009 02:20 AM     
  Two more points  
* If the Democrats decide to go it alone on health care reform, all they really have to do now is evoke Joe Wilson screaming at President Obama on national TV to justify not being bipartisan.

* Watch out for some conservatives glomming onto Wilson's claim and calling, once again, for an invasive national ID card that we'd have to show every time we got sick in order to prove we're not illegal aliens. They tried to use the 9/11 attacks for that purpose, as well.
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/11/2009 02:41 AM     
Couldn't be more happy to correct your error in the Democratic favor ;)

  by: NicPre     09/11/2009 02:57 AM     
  Great point Ben.  
I might also add that this sort of self destructive behavior on the part of the right wingnuts can only be good for the advancement of the Libertarian party.

We desperately need a third party at the federal level and hypocrites like this man and the several other Republicans who've recently been caught getting some strange can only help. Not that there's anything wrong with getting some strange, so long as your mate approves. Just don't thump your bible and scream family values, all the while living a lie.

  by: bbeljefe     09/11/2009 03:25 AM     
I think we might have a burgeoning "independent" movement. It will be interesting to see what happens.
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/11/2009 03:44 AM     
  Rep. Joe’s moment of truth…  
  by: valkyrie123     09/11/2009 04:36 AM     
  @ben reilly  
Hey Joe's loss of emotions reminded me of you not to long ago when you did the same in one of your posts. You apologized and expect everyone to accept it. Joe apologized and yet you go on about it like an old woman. Just another example of your double standard personality. And don't tell me how its different because it was directed at the President.
  by: Hotwired   09/11/2009 05:21 AM     
He wasn't lying according to FactCheck and the bill itself so just how is he lying when he says that there will be no illegal immigrants getting free health care?

What Bill?
You may find this link of some interest.
  by: Hotwired   09/11/2009 05:29 AM     
Nah, it's different because I'm just some Internet jagoff, while he's a Congressman. But you are hilarious!
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/11/2009 06:41 AM     
I got this right from the link you provided.

**But based on the proposals so far, Mr. Obama’s overarching point is accurate: the legislation would not allow illegal immigrants to obtain the proposed government subsidies that would make it easier for low-income individuals and families to afford health insurance. **

If illegal aliens could buy the insurance well let them and when they can not produce a green card or proof of Citizenship send them back to where they came from. I don't see the issue here President Obama did NOT lie.

Are you trying to point out the 40 vs 30 million and somehow insinuate that because the president used the correct numbers while before his office stated the total amount including illegal aliens? You mean he isn't allowed to use the correct numbers and should stay the course like Bush did for his entire presidency? Sorry I prefer someone who is willing to clarify something if it was incorrect.

Another possibility of what you might be trying to point out is the Medicaid issue which is a state issue for the most part since each state is responsible for it's Medicaid program. I haven't heard that the Federal Gov't was taking over the Medicaid program from each state.

Here is part of the link I provided about that also has Alan Wilson speaking and sounding as foolish as his fathers disgusting behavior was.
**The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care.
(Hmm it states a BILL, and then)
Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, but wouldn't get tax subsidies to help them. Still, Republicans say there aren't sufficient citizenship verification requirements to ensure illegal immigrants are excluded.**

So do as the president said and come to him with ideas. Write down some better verification requirements for him to see, just don't keep whining and then go to see him only to use it for a clip on Fauz news later saying he won't do anything whine whine.
Here is the link that I had provided above just in case you want to check it out yourself.

Or better yet lets get it REAL clear.
**The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States."**

And one last one so you do not misunderstand where I am coming from at all.
**But who's the liar?

As it turns out, the man who called Obama the liar may actually be off base. According to, a nonpartisan site dedicated to fact-checking the claims of "candidates, elected officials, political parties, interest groups, pundits, talk show hosts," Obama wasn't lying when he said the health-care reforms he's proposing would not apply to illegal immigrants.

"Obama can make a pretty thorough case that reform doesn't apply to those here illegally. We don't find the public option argument enough to make the case that Obama 'lied.' We rate Wilson's statement False."**

If the Right still wants more then put it in there, I am sure they can figure out something like oh micro-chips in their arms...wait we don't have Bush in still never mind.
  by: TaraB     09/11/2009 06:51 AM     
  Love it!  
The right-wing keeps calling the president a liar, but they're the ones who can't seem to tell the truth about anything. Why is that?
  by: captainchainsaw   09/11/2009 09:20 PM     
now Wilson has earned a measly 200,000 in donations from this
  by: willyshawker     09/12/2009 12:42 AM     
  Doublespeak and hypocrisy  
For those who state that the Health Care Bill does not benefit illegal aliens, please be aware of the double-speak situation. While the bill does exclude illegal aliens, the Democrats have repeatedly eliminated the enforcement of that clause by striking down the requirement to prove citizenship. This indirectly DOES benefit illegals as they merely have to enter an emergency room and SAY (not prove) that they are legal to obtain "free" (paid for by tax dollars) treatment.
For those who write scathing comments about the fellow who said "You lie" during Pres. Obama's speech, it seems you are unaware of, or have conveniently forgotten the rudeness toward, and interruption of, President Bush's State of the Union Speech when he addressed the UNRESOLVED Social Security Issue.
Front and center in the Chamber, CHEERING and JEERING, was none other than (now President) Barack Hussein Obama. But I guess that was different, that was Democrats acting poorly.
Were Democrats and Liberals as outraged then?
If not, then we have a bit of hypocrisy now being shown, no?
  by: DavidDCSA   09/12/2009 08:28 AM     
Are you seriously saying that the fact they cheered when he said that is in any way compared to ONE member shouting out and calling the President of the United States a liar on national TV and much of the world watching? You really believe they can be compared as they are apples and oranges. There was plenty of booing and waving papers some with writing on the back of it which I am sure did't say Good Job Mr. President during this weeks address.

My daughter who is only 14 even commented on the dirty looks and the waving of what I can assume was part of the reform proposal. I did not give my opinion on the speech to her even after it was over. I let her decide how she felt about it.

Mr. Wilson's behavior was totally disgusting and he is a disgrace to the uniform he wore and to the position he holds. I did not see President Obama stand up in your Fox News clip and call out then President Bush in front of everyone just himself.

What I did see is the typical behavior that both sides do which I do find disrespectful. I would hope you agree that the pettyness of the dirty faces, booing or cheering on both sides is something that should be stopped since it is not proper. If you say that the Republicans should do it or has the right then that means the left has that same right, it can not be one-sided.

Any problems you have with the false accusation of the President lying you can check my reply to Hotwired which should clear it all up quite easily.
  by: TaraB     09/12/2009 08:53 AM     
  Response to Tara  
What I am saying is that there is a lack of decorum on both sides of the aisle. As to "what I believe", I believe that our once-great Republic is devolving into an Oligarchy and it is time that we, the voters, stop with the labeling, name calling and finger pointing and begin to restore our government run of, by and for the people. I believe that the framers of our Constitution never intended for our representatives to set themselves up with automatic pay raises and full-salary retirement benefits for life after serving a single term and they certainly did not intend for the people to serve the government as we are doing now by having our tax dollars given to the same management of private corporations who mismanaged them to ruination in the first place.
  by: DavidDCSA   09/12/2009 04:44 PM     
According to your response to me I can agree with what you wrote. It is past time that the games end and our representitives start taking care of the citizens interest and not their own.
  by: TaraB     09/12/2009 11:27 PM     
And, of course, you use the president's middle name because it matters, right?
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/14/2009 08:26 AM     
1.) Are you ashamed of the presidents middle name? Wonder why using it struck such a cord... just curious. Not baiting or anything.

2.) If a "Public option" were passed, How would we be able to "verify" anyone who was an alien to this country except with an ID card? We have to have insurance cards to identify us as proper recipients of health insurance, I find it hard to believe that anyone can just walk in off the street and get medical care without some form of ID... thus, there would HAVE to be a form of National ID card just for insurance.

I personally don't see the problem with it, I don't care if the country knows who I am, I already pay taxes, so, they know who I am anyway. What I worry about is "In order to save money" we will be outsourcing our government run health care "option" to India or China to cut costs and bring it all in under budget.
  by: boaznjachin     09/14/2009 08:50 AM     
I don't know about anyone else but when we sign up for insurance don't we already have to have proof of who we are i.e. Drivers License, SSN, address, phone, etc.?

I remember when I had to go in for surgery almost 4 years ago and I had to give ALL of the above and my Insurance card to registration so I could get my "Hospital Card" that they use for everything they bill you for. I remember Dietary even had to scan the dang thing like that is what I was feeling like a few hours after my procedure.

Also, we are tracked right now almost everywhere by our SSN so really that is a National ID card if you think about it.

Boaz- I don't think it would happen, but that is one of the most interesting and I think good question asked in a long time.

I am so tired of the bickering back and forth. We have all seen people, many family members have to struggle with Health Care in some form or the other. Be it denials, or bills being sent that insurance should cover but they are moaning over an ICD9 codes not being what they want it to be to pay for it. I do think that when this passes, I believe it is past IF, that all members of the Federal Government from Obama down to the littlest poor child all be on the same level for the degree of care they get.
  by: TaraB     09/14/2009 09:03 AM     
Thanks for the comment.

My only concern with a "government run health care" is this... It's a pain in the donkey to deal with insurance companies. Do I really think the government, who brings us the annual, pounding the head against the wall, consulting a lawyer to read the "easy to read" instruction manuals that come with tax forms, give me as much money as we think you should pay even though its not nearly enough because we still have a debt the equals $35,000 for every living man woman and child in the country, tax season. Not to mention 2000 page bills that no one reads, "cash for clunkers" what do we do now?, debacles can somehow make me dealing with idiots on the other end of the phone any better.

Wow, now THAT is a run on sentence for ya. :)
  by: boaznjachin     09/14/2009 10:10 AM     
  Shucks Boa  
I thought I was the run on Queen of SN wahh :-(

I also am not sure what the actual program would be like. I do know I want them to continue to improve what is already an big issue with me and that is the VA. I will say that my dad has been getting a lot better care than he was previously, but so many others are not. A young girl I was there for during her teens went into the Army and she was given a medical discharge. Six months later she is still waiting to be treated for several of her problems and is being treated like shit by the one Dr. He gave her fiancee no hassels for the same problem my girl has(I call her my adopted daughter usually) and has even made snarky remarks about her problem.

If the quality of care is just slowly moving and in some states stalled in the only men are real soldiers mentality, can we really start something new?

At the same time as all of that I also see so many working poor that NEED some kind of coverage that they can afford. The answers are far from easy and the fix for it all isn't either. All I do know is that we can't keep going like we are before something breaks.
  by: TaraB     09/14/2009 10:29 AM     
  Nice Try!  
Joe Wilson has doubled what Miller may have received from liberal wignuts:

I'm looking forward to the next election when our Dear Leader and his minions in the Socialist Party are ushered out by the vast right-wing conspiracy.
  by: adhemar   09/15/2009 12:08 PM     
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