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09/15/2009 08:18 AM ID: 80697 Permalink   

Senate Cuts off ACORN Grants

 

After a third videotape has surfaced of ACORN officials giving advice on how to set up a brothel in New York City, the Senate has voted 83 to 7 to stop the Urban Devolopment Department from supplying grants to ACORN.

The vote means ACORN can't get grants for programs counseling low-income Americans on how to get housing. Last week, the Census Bureau cut ties with ACORN. ACORN's chief organizer said the tapes have been doctored in Maryland and threatened to sue the FOX News Channel.

Another ACORN spokesperson, Scott Levenson, believes the voices in the videotape were dubbed over to make the conversation more objectionable than it really is. ACORN has sent letters to Fox News asking them to stop airing the video.

 
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  points  
 
1. They have no grounds to sue Fox News. The lady is an idiot. It's not slander if its on videotape (see point 2)


2. If it was dupped over and the videos happen to turn out to be lies (which I'm actually suspicous of now see point 3) Fox cant be sued because they where going on what was presented to them. The only people who can be sued is the video people.

3. Find is suspicious now becuase why release the videos days apart. Release all 3 at once


4. Fox is pushing this way to far IMO


5. ACORN is taking some deep backlash from the government on both sides of the aisle. Maybe something is going on in ACORN we dont know about yet.


6. This vote actually IMO hurts the poor more than it hurts ACORN


I had some more but forgot them


 
  by: willyshawker     09/15/2009 08:33 AM     
  @willyshawker  
 
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group.

Thanks for the article it made my day and restored my faith that some still have the common sense to do the right thing.
You would think CNN and the other main stream media would have reported this also. But like always, not as of yet. Its no wonder fox news has the highest ratings.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/15/2009 08:42 AM     
  OK  
 
So what happens if they find out the tapes were doctored? If they were doing this and the tapes were uncut and taken to the police to investigate instead of the media I would feel a lot more comfortable with such a decision.

Also, if they are fake will Fox give the correction to their mistake just as much airtime? Of course they won't and now the pundits are going to sit on their asses and go on and on finally just walking the line or proof vs bullshit.

If they could prove without a doubt this is what is happening I wouldn't have a problem with it, but they already made a decision based on what Fox says.

While everyone is whoopin and hollering and cheering there will be people that have been severely affected by this who can get help or advice they need. You do know ACORN itself will not shut it's doors, the only thing that is going to happen is poor people will not have access to the grants and information on how to buy a house without being scammed or suckered into something they can't afford.

Poor people get shafted once again and Fox gets to have their assinine field day. I would bet that classism far outweighs racism if you dig down and do a serious study. I hope everyone has their happy dance tonight @@
 
  by: TaRaB     09/15/2009 08:45 AM     
  @Hotwired  
 
Ahh the first happy dancer is already on the floor.

"Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group."

Yeah right, I mean who needs to have someone out there to help the poor people actually get help. ACORN won't be hurt as much as the people that were going there for help.

"You would think CNN and the other main stream media would have reported this also. But like always, not as of yet. Its no wonder fox news has the highest ratings."

Maybe they are waiting to see if it really true before jumping the gun and causing rumor and innuendo into the mix.
 
  by: TaRaB     09/15/2009 08:50 AM     
  Tara  
 
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  by: willyshawker     09/15/2009 08:51 AM     
  Willy  
 
I know you didn't and I was writing my post as you replied. I did know there would be people here that are though and if you look above it has already started like moths to a light.

Ok that made me laugh about the butt and all, especially since Ix has the story about George Clooney and the cold hand. It must be a rear thing going on somewhere.

I already said I don't care for ACORN personally yet I will be accused of being a dirty liberal as usual when I stil am Independant just watch.

My only concern with this is what it has always been, people unable to find services to help them. The working poor are the most ignored group of people and it angers me when every time they seem to be getting the help they need it gets pulled out from under them and the people who obviously don't give a damn are idiots about it.

Watch there will be comments about how they deserve what they deal with because they aren't trying to get a better job or more education, yet what the hell are they going to be able to do when they have to work to survive and really can't get to college and such.
 
  by: TaRaB     09/15/2009 09:04 AM     
  @TaRaB  
 
I am a dancing machine.

Yeah right, I mean who needs to have a corrupted group out there to help the poor people actually get help.

Oh dang that isn't what you said is it?

Yes they are such a needed group. They actually helped the poor people when they got banks to give loans to people that could not afford to pay them back and as a result they lost their homes and what money they had.
Your right Tara, Praise Acorn
http://www.mediacircus.com/...

Fund the poor people, give them the billions instead of Acorn and see how that works out.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/15/2009 09:20 AM     
  @TaraB  
 
Maybe they are waiting to see if it really true before jumping the gun and causing rumor and innuendo into the mix.

Yeah sure.. They must be waiting to get an accurate count on the tens of thousands who march on Washington before the report on that too eh?
 
  by: Hotwired   09/15/2009 09:24 AM     
  See Willy?  
 
I called it right on the dot.

"Your right Tara, Praise Acorn"

Are you that blind? Do you need a new script for glasses or something Hotwire? I have said it so many times this week that you are either blind or acting like a troll. I do not like ACORN, I do however see the need for the poor people in our country to have someplace to go for help. I am not saying it again and if you don't get it I am not responsible for your ignorance on my stance with the whole issue.

"Yeah sure.. They must be waiting to get an accurate count on the tens of thousands who march on Washington before the report on that too eh?"

So you are saying you prefer a news source that doesn't even wait to make sure what they are accusing someone of to be true? You are sticking up for the same site that repeatedly shows any politician who messes up as a Democrat, even going so far to the bottom of the sludge to call the GOP Presidential hopeful who was a POW camp survivor John McCain a (D) when it didn't approve of what he did? How many (r) Senators, Congress members, Governors that have slept around while pushing teh Family Value platform were called a Democrat every time a scandal with them occurs?

If you weren't so serious about believing it all I would say it was almost cute how you defend a news station that is full of smear tactics and dare I say LIES and yet proclaims to be fair and balanced.
 
  by: TaRaB     09/15/2009 09:43 AM     
  My thoughts  
 
The Senate did the responsible thing. All money going into ACORN needs to stop and an investigation needs to be launched. Government money goes into this organization and taxpayers pay taxes to the government. Is it right that someone could be setting up an underage prostitution brothel in someones neighborhood scamming the taxpayers and the government by using grants available to them and not paying taxes like everyone else ? I'm not saying it isn't possible that the tapes are doctored but the body language definitely goes along with how the ACORN workers are talking in the video.
Needless to say even if they said this stuff under false pretense (like we are making a youtube comedy video, etc) These people who work for ACORN had no business saying this stuff while representing themselves as employees of ACORN. Would you work at a bank and tell a person how to disable the cameras, and open the vault ?
 
  by: ohioankev   09/15/2009 11:33 AM     
  It's about time  
 
CORRUPT whacko organization
 
  by: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh   09/15/2009 01:06 PM     
  ^ ^ ^  
 
yes, that damn Senate.
 
  by: John E Angel     09/15/2009 01:49 PM     
  @Willy  
 
"giving advice on how to set up a brother in New York City" A brother? Like a black guy?

"the voiuces in the videotape were dupped over"

The Voiuces! The VOIUCES IN MY HEAD! Not sure wtf Dupped means. Urban dictionary says it's to be tricked. Other dictionaries say it's to open.

I believe you're talking about "DUBBING" since it's in reference to video tape.

"Dub
In television, a copy of a videotape. dub is more commonly used than dupe (short for duplicate), which generally applies to film copies."
Source: http://www.wrslabs.com/...


 
  by: vex   09/15/2009 03:49 PM     
  This sets an interesting precendent  
 
Meaning, if an organisation has some corruption, funding to it should be stopped. All right then, time for us to close the government.
 
  by: H. W. Hutchins   09/15/2009 04:25 PM     
  FOX News has the highest ratings  
 
...because it's the most entertaining. It's kind of like watching LOST.
 
  by: StringBlade   09/15/2009 06:02 PM     
  @Willy  
 
"giving advice on how to set up a brother in New York City"

Great typo, I still snicker every time I open this summary!

Anyway, I've mixed feelings on this business. It sure doesn't look good for ACORN at this point. Even though I'd wager the people caught still represent only a small fraction of their total employees, this kind of expose would look bad for ANY company. Is it corruption (doubtful, I don't see what ACORN or these people would gain), stupidity, or liberal tolerance gone too far?

On the other hand, what's with the staggered release of these videos? This reeks of something fishy, as Tara's said in the past. I was willing to overlook the willingness the employees had in giving out such info to such ridiculously dressed people, and even the editing of the videos. But, releasing the footage like this says they're either going for maximum dramatic effect (reducing their credibility IMO) or producing them as fast as you can doctor them.

I don't much care about ACORN, because I can't imagine there's no one else doing what they do. I'm sure the poor will find help elsewhere. I AM concerned about our legislature appearing to leap into policy decisions based on shock-journalism. I'm reminded of the days of William Randolph Hearst, and I'd rather not experience days like that in my lifetime.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/15/2009 07:20 PM     
  @willy  
 
Nice find, but next time please take a moment to calm down before typing up your summary, so there won't be as many typos. Better still, give this a shot:

http://aspell.net/...
 
  by: YuSaKu     09/15/2009 09:21 PM     
  MOC  
 
Thank you for posting and once again saying it better than I ever could.
 
  by: TaraB     09/15/2009 11:10 PM     
  @TaraB  
 
Quote:I do not like ACORN, I do however see the need for the poor people in our country to have someplace to go for help.

I agree people do need somewhere to go but it appears to me in your opinion a program that is Corrupt is good enough as long as it is something. Am I reading you correctly?

In my opinion they are either corrupt or they are not. There is no half way.

Quote:"Yeah sure.. They must be waiting to get an accurate count on the tens of thousands who march on Washington before the report on that too eh?"

So you are saying you prefer a news source that doesn't even wait to make sure what they are accusing someone of to be true?

Did they report on the march Tara? I wonder why not? Why do you figure they didn't, it was fact!!

If you are asking if I prefer Fox over the others, I would have to say yes in all honesty. At least they are aware of what is going on around us. Do they report correctly all the time. NO, they are human like the rest, yet the rating show it is the most watched news. I can't figure out why. With that said, I am still backing what I said about no other media reporting on the Acorn story and maybe you will see your excuse for why they didn't was pathetic.

Could this be why none of them reported on this story? For at least one of the major media players your excuse doesn't hold water. Let me explain.

Are you aware Charlie Gibson the anchor of ABC World News Tonight does even know about it,and the story is a week old.
How do you explain that Tara?

Quote from an interview.
Don Wade and Roma, WLS, The Big 89 Chicago, talking to Charlie Gibson, "We got this embarrassing video of ACORN staff giving tax advice, how to set up a brothel with 13-year-old hookers. It has everything you would want, corruption, sleazy action, tax-funded organizations, government ties, but nobody's covering the story, Charlie. Why?"

GIBSON: (laughing) I don't even know about it. So you've got me at a loss, I don't know. But my goodness if it's got everything including sleaziness in it we should talk about it this morning.

ROMA: Well, I think that this is a huge issue because there's so much funding that goes into this organization. It's a multi--

GIBSON: I know we've done some stories about ACORN before, but this one I don't know about.

ROMA: Jake Tapper about some blogging on it. I know he's at least blogged once on this scandal.

GIBSON: You guys are -- you guys are really up on the -- on the website.



Let me be fair, there is the possibility that GIBSON could be telling a lie that he does not know about the story, that does get him out of the question about why no one is reporting on it. But if he is being honest doesn't it stand to reason that nobody at ABC knows about it?

What do you think Tara, am I being unfair? Is this the media you turn to for your news?
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 07:01 AM     
  @ hotwired  
 
I understand you're happy that acorn is getting buried (get it?! lol). But what I don't get is while you're laughing and feeling apparently superior, there are still people out there who are poor and need help, regardless of whether acorn is the proper organization to do it. What I don't get is why you're so ready to insult acorn, but not willing to acknowledge the problems they are, in theory, there to improve.

You may gloat, but there are still people out there who need help, through no fault of their own.

Your 'tude is inconsequential. The question is are you part of the solution or part of the...well, you know the rest :P

*goes back to wrangling reindeer and drinking PBR*
 
  by: tuogh     09/16/2009 07:33 AM     
  No one reporting it?  
 
I guess CNN must've lost their Liberal Media card then, since they were the source used when this appeared on SN last week. Per this link, the video was just published Thursday, which I assume was the day before CNN put this out: http://www.cnn.com/...

Of course, then there's the NYT, which published the news about the Census Bureau dropping ACORN that same day: http://www.nytimes.com/...

In fact, nowhere I've gone have I not seen some headline referencing this story. So, who's telling you no one's covering the ACORN story, Hotwired?
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 07:33 AM     
  Hotwired  
 
I do hope you see this I don't have any points left for today.
I agree people do need somewhere to go but it appears to me in your opinion a program that is Corrupt is good enough as long as it is something. Am I reading you correctly?

In my opinion they are either corrupt or they are not. There is no half way"

What I am saying is that while some people in the organization are corrupt it does not make them all that way. See there is a half way point otherwise I could say All Rebulican Politicians are adulterers and be correct. The truth is that while there are many Republican Politicians that have been caught having affairs and they are the ones that are smearing their peer's images.

I very rarely believe something is either black or white, there are too many shades of gray inbetween them.

"With that said, I am still backing what I said about no other media reporting on the Acorn story and maybe you will see your excuse for why they didn't was pathetic."

The my excuse will have to be pathetic to you for at least that because I do not feel comfortable with what is it now? 3 tapes. Three tapes that are cut and dubbed over in parts. Not only that they were taken by people that admit they are a conservative group that is against the organization. I would be a LOT more comfortable if the tapes were in their entirety, all given to the media on the SAME day, done by people that didn't have something to gain from the reasons I just gave. Are they fake? I really wouldn't be able to say either way because they were not responsible in the way they handled the distribution. Even you have to admit if something came out against say Rush Limbaugh and the tapes were messed up and a new one was showing up each day plus they were coming from Michael Moore you would be calling it Bullshit. I know I would even though I think Rush is harming the party more than helpnig it by feeding people a bunch of fear and hate.

"How do you explain that Tara?"
Honestly I can't explain it, in part because I do not watch the evening news on TV unless it is my local news. I am here much too often to really NEED to see US or World news.

"What do you think Tara, am I being unfair? Is this the media you turn to for your news?"

I think you are being unfair only that you are rushing to judgement until all the facts are in. I will say that the other news stations not mentioning it by now is a little silly, they could say it has happened without showing the tapes. Then again we all saw what happened when Dan Rather ran with a story he was given and given the OK to and when it came out that it was false he got canned. Maybe the anchors don't want that happening to them, and of course Fox won't fire theirs even if they are wrong. Shit even Loou Dobbs got away with that birther non-sense.

As for the media I turn to again I do not watch most of the 3 Mega-news stations very much and I do not watch the ABC,CBS,NBC Nightly News. I watch the local as I said and I read the news on here and on news sites across the web. I prefer BBC and I have to admit I will watch BBC America if I am up when it is on. I don't have much trust in any of the Major news networks because they all have a slant one way or the other. Fox-Right, MSNBC-Left and CNN-middle(ish).

If you lok at a few others here that liken themselves to be Libertarian or Libertarian leaning you will see they don't watch too much either, but rather read it themselves.

I can do the Right and Left do-si-doh with you as well as, say Ben is willing to do. All I can do is give my thoughts or opinions and try to be as fair as possible while sticking to my own beliefs. I don't mind hearing anyone elses, hell I usually enjoy it, but this whole left/right is beyond getting on my nerves and sorry but Fox is just as much a pain in the ass as MSNBC which you see me post as little as possible news from eithers site.

I hope that might clear up any misconceptions or questions about me and why I think as I do.
 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 07:42 AM     
  Um  
 
Can anyone show me where ACORN gets federal funding? I don't see anything saying that.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/16/2009 07:46 AM     
  @tuogh  
 
They're laughing because this isn't about people, be it the poor or the people of this country. No, it's about one's favorite characters in some stories told by well paid spokespeople.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 07:52 AM     
  Tuogh  
 
" But what I don't get is while you're laughing and feeling apparently superior, there are still people out there who are poor and need help, regardless of whether acorn is the proper organization to do it. What I don't get is why you're so ready to insult acorn, but not willing to acknowledge the problems they are, in theory, there to improve."

I am really liking your style here tuogh, you are a definate asset to this site and not just because we agree about this.

Helping those that need help is what really matters. I am not talking about helping out someone that is too lazy to at LEAST try to better themselves, there will always be a few that are truly lost causes.

We need to make sure that our working poor/poor has access to information and help that they would not be able to normally afford. We all can't be or hire financial advisers and some people just are not aware of the language that is used in contracts.

Plus let's be honest here, we have all ran into a pushy sales person or someone that handed you a paper or several papers and said "OK sign here, here and here." And then they stare at you if you try to take time and read it. Now I am the kind of person that will speak up and say either "Excuse me, I am reading this" or if it is a really bad day and they are really snarky "Back off and let me read it before I take my business elsewhere."
Many people are too intimidated or simply gullible and believe whatever the person tells them to sign.

Legal Aid in some areas are about useless as roadkill in the city and sometimes they are so busy and backed up that the chance to say buy a house with an ARM would be long gone by the time a contract lawyer could read it for them.

If people want to say they are too stupid and they need to stay poor and lose their home if they are that ignorant I have a question for them. Who do you think is working at the fast food places you order from while working minimum wage, gas stations, moaids in hotel/motels and retail stores? The working poor and guess what? You need them more than you think and they have the right to try and have a place they can say they own.
 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 07:56 AM     
  @TaraB  
 
Thanks for the reply, Completely understand where you're coming from.

 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 08:00 AM     
  @ tuogh  
 
I understand you're happy that acorn is getting buried (get it?! lol).

No I don't get it, *LOL*,

Quote: What I don't get is why you're so ready to insult acorn, but not willing to acknowledge the problems they are, in theory, there to improve.

First off I am ready to insult Acorn because I do not find any satisfaction in wasting my tax dollars on a corrupt organization. I showed they forced Banks into lending money to those who could not afford it, if that is your idea of helping the poor then so be it. If you think helping the poor is setting up a prostitute ring then so be it.

If you read my post to Tara then surely you must have read where I agree the poor do need help. Now you don't have to wonder.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 08:14 AM     
  Hotwired  
 
Thanks for replying to me, even if we don't agree it is nice to be listened to and acknowledged either by voice or by written word.

 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 08:20 AM     
  @MomentOfClarity  
 
So, who's telling you no one's covering the ACORN story, Hotwired?

Why it's one of the largest media outlets MOC.

Don't want you to feel left out.

http://www.examiner.com/...

Did you see all the reports on Van Jones? How come the main stream didn't report on his Communist Past?

 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 08:23 AM     
  @TaraB  
 
Truly my pleasure to speak with you. And if your ever in the market perhaps we could chat one on one using Windows Messenger or something on those lines. You may find I am not such a bad person as you may feel I am.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 08:28 AM     
  Sheesh...  
 
"No I don't get it, *LOL*,"

lol, hostility all out the wazoo! Well Hotwired, since you don't get it, an acorn is a nut, or is it a fruit?....anyway lets roll with nut, a nut is a seed, a seed gets buried. That's all. It was a lame attempt at humor. I'm not attacking you. Relax.

It's funny how you only responded to that part of my comment though....
 
  by: tuogh     09/16/2009 08:33 AM     
  Hotwire  
 
Thank you for the offer, I might just take you up on that one evening. I don't think you are a bad person, we just have differing opinions on some things.

Now if you ask me to go to a party and have Crayola, Big Bird and Ahhhhhhhhhhh hanging out I might run away. lol

 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 08:34 AM     
  adding to ^^...  
 
Personal attacks aside..are you part of the loud-mouthed, whining problem? Or a productive part of the solution?
 
  by: tuogh     09/16/2009 08:36 AM     
  @Hotwired  
 
Thanks for the link, but you must have missed the part where I showed you that mainstream news outlets DID and ARE in fact covering the story. Repeating what someone obviously repeated to you isn't going to make me accept it as willingly as you did. I actually checked, so you're actually going to have to make a case for that talking point, I'm afraid.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 08:40 AM     
  Uh  
 
Can anyone show me where ACORN gets federal funding? I don't see anything saying that.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/16/2009 08:50 AM     
  Ben  
 
I believe they are saying because the government was giving them grants it is therefore federal money. Otherwise the Senate wouldn't have a say on cutting the grants off because it wouldn't be taxpayers money even if it is called a grant.

That's my guess.
 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 09:06 AM     
  rofl  
 
"How come the main stream didn't report on his Communist Past?"

What is this the 50's? What's next, a good old-fashioned witch hunt? lol.

You know, the whole communist threat thing died awhile ago. And the fear-mongering that went with it. Though not according to some, I'm sure (see above)
 
  by: tuogh     09/16/2009 09:08 AM     
  @tuogh  
 
hostility all out the wazoo

Not at all, I did not think you were attacking me, and it is not hostility it is simply my attempt to convey I do not find any humor in wasting my hard earned money. Im sorry I feel that strongly about it because normally I do not take things this seriously. However when my money is suppose to help the poor and I find it isn't the humor stops. I do apologize if you felt I was being hostile.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 09:08 AM     
  MOC  
 
Come on, You asked me who told me. I answered. I saw your links. Im still waiting on ABC.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 09:09 AM     
  @hotwired  
 
So does that mean you're no longer "still backing what [you] said about no other media reporting on the Acorn story," because you now admit it was only ABC who wasn't (I'll let that stand, their site is a pain to search)? Doesn't that mean that your media, who told you no one else was reporting the story, lied? "Is this the media you turn to for your news?"
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 09:18 AM     
  Me too...  
 
...I haven't meant to be hostile either, Hot. Though my last comment especially may have seemed so (the communist/witchhunt one, lol) I guess its just that some of your comments come across as wisenheimer-ish, or, well, hostile, lol. Guess it can just as easily be my mis-interpretation of your high-strung-ness concerning your money, as it could be you actually being hostile. My bad (wtf did I just say?)
 
  by: tuogh     09/16/2009 09:20 AM     
  And to clarify...  
 
...I'm frankly just annoyed with yet ANOTHER version of the "truth" being pushed on me. I'm tired of hearing about grave issues like a media blackout on a story that I can see is obviously not happening. I've got a nagging suspicion that ACORN wouldn't even BE news if it wasn't a GOP target, and I'm tired of being expected not only to care, but to be outraged.

It all seems to very, very superficial and fake.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 09:26 AM     
  @tuogh  
 

Don't sweat the small shit.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 09:35 AM     
  MOC  
 
Doesn't that mean that your media, who told you no one else was reporting the story, lied?

No they didn't lie. I still back what I said. Where is CBS,Evening News
60 Minutes The Early Show
World, NBC with Brian Williams, ABC, Good Morning America - World News? You gave me CNN. *LOL* You are a diehard lady, I give you that. Hey if I concede would you agree the main stream is Bias on their reporting?

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/...

 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 09:47 AM     
  @Hotwired  
 
"Lady?" Have a look at my profile card.

Now, I don't understand what you're still on about. You said no one's covering the story, I showed you they did. You can play shell games with show titles all you like, the fact remains that MSM DID cover it, so your talking point is an unsubstantiated generalization, if not a lie. Doesn't that bother you? Do you feel the ends justify the means?

I don't know what you hoped to accomplish by following up with an obviously partisan op-ed piece, but it certainly doesn't add anything. Do you think that passes for objective news? Do you think that sweeping claims of media blackout are OK if news outlets D, E, H, and M allegedly didn't run the story? Do you really stand behind that?
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 10:08 AM     
  Thought I was done  
 
NBC reported it according to a site I dont visit often http://mediamatters.org/...

CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/...

ToDay Show http://today.msnbc.msn.com/...

There are a couple but my eyes are starting to see two links of each so that is my offering.
 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 10:22 AM     
  For all the left and right wing nuts  
 
Don't worry if your life is hard
And your rewards are few
Remember that the mighty Oak
Was once a nut like you
 
  by: White Albino   09/16/2009 12:23 PM     
  @TaraB  
 
Those reports came out yesterday, that was my point. A week goes by and one or two report on it. I know you said they were waiting for proof or whatever but the word alleged covers it.
 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 06:06 PM     
  @MomentOfClarity  
 
Quote" You said no one's covering the story,"

Poor choice of words. Hows that? Let me rephrase, a few out of many reported on this until recently. Reason? Bias? Seems that way to me. You gave me CNN and NYT. How many other media sources failed to report when the story broke? This should have been all over.
Again REASON?
Obviously you didn't like my link because it is without a doubt a partisan op-ed piece, and you don't feel it is credible, but you feel CNN and other main stream is? What in hell do you call this? From none less your CNN.
http://www.youtube.com/...

And this is how you get your news? Do a search on her. There are numerous examples of the fine reporting conducted at CNN. You will never have a MOC.

Do tell, why hasn't the media reported on the thousands that marched on Washington. BIAS?


 
  by: Hotwired   09/16/2009 06:32 PM     
  @ Hotwired  
 
I didn't check the dates some may have gone back farther I don't know. I was very tired and my eyes were seeing doubled and everything was blurry. They are covering it though you said no one was covering it even now earlier I believe, if not sorry.
 
  by: TaraB     09/16/2009 06:53 PM     
  @Hotwired  
 
There you go with the insulting and overbearing rhetoric again. I'm the third person with whom you've gotten into it - Tara went the extra mile to be concilliatory, as did tuogh, but I just don't have it in me. What do you think justifies you to be so rude to anyone who disagrees with you? I ask because it'd explain a LOT about the kind of rage in the country today.

"Poor choice of words?" OK, but then WHY do you keep trying to argue the point? Gibson said what he did for whatever reason, but he doesn't constitute "The Media," and I'm not going to run around proving every last media outlet covered this story. I think that if two of the papers most often alleged to be liberal ran the story, I have a hard time believing the claim that no one else did. That's like saying the government is covering up an incident two days after they did a press release explaining it.

I can't look at YouTube links where I am now, so I'll have to look at what you're trying to say about CNN later. Frankly, I don't think MSM is biased because both the left AND right scream about it endlessly, so to me the media must be doing something right. Since the left spent a lot of time complaining about a lack of coverage of (and misrepresented numbers at) their protests over the last 8 years, I'm not going to jump on the "Liberal Media" bandwagon just because this time the right isn't happy. I don't know why they don't cover certain events, but my view has always been that they're just, like any business, in it for themselves. They'll run a story if it'll help, or at least not harm, their ratings. I'll certianly take that subtle bias over the obvious bias of an op-ed piece. Getting one's news shouldn't be about balancing what one doesn't like to hear with something one does.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/16/2009 07:27 PM     
  Acorn funding was so small anyway  
 
Contrast ACORN funding to the financial bailouts. It's like 1%. And the bailout money was much abused. It's bullshit to defund this national group over a few local chapter mishaps.
 
  by: reverend j roach     09/17/2009 02:12 PM     
  wondered  
 
After ShortNews attendees pretty much swore their uncompromising fealty to ACORN during the election; I wondered if you people would continue to worship every corrupt act they made after you got your boy in office.

I guess I got my answer, while the most die hard commies (half this website) would defend ACORN if they began stabbing babies, at least the other half are willing to denounce them under the bus, when their success is no longer your problem.
 
  by: promontorium   09/17/2009 10:40 PM     
  And Stop The Faith Based Programs  
 
from the Bush era on the same grounds.

Two faced hypocrites.
 
  by: ichi     09/17/2009 11:50 PM     
  Are they stabbing babies, too?  
 
Just need to know where to place my "uncompromising fealty" for frivolous fetus flayers.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     09/18/2009 12:07 AM     
  @promontorium  
 
Have you had your blood pressure checked lately? Hypertension, even in moderate levels, can significantly shorten one's lifespan if allowed to go untreated.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     09/18/2009 12:14 AM     
 
 
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