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Republicans Accused of Voting Against Rape Victims

 

Political pundits are calling Senate Republicans everything from hypocrites to rape supporters after 30 voted against an amendment that denies federal funding to military contractors whose contracts prevent employees from pursuing rape allegations.

The amendment was introduced by Democratic Sen. Al Franken to a defense appropriations bill and passed 68-30. All the "no" votes were cast by Republicans; 10 GOP senators voted in favor of the amendment, including all four female Republican senators.

Franken said that the inspiration for the amendment is Jamie Leigh Jones, who was allegedly gang-raped by her co-workers in Iraq and locked in a shipping container, then told she'd be fired if she pursued charges against her employer, Halliburton.

 
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  Ahhhh OK  
 
I get it now!! THATS what the republicans mean by good old fashioned values.
 
  by: truhawg   10/09/2009 01:35 AM     
  Gah!  
 
I think it is disgusting that we are still allowing the rape of both women and men to go unpunished and unreported for fear the rapist would get off with a slap on the wrist, which they usually do.

I find this to be an interesting take on what Sen. Franken did and why he did it..
"Sen. Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama, called Franken's measure "a political attack directed at Halliburton."

Yes, a political attack at Halliburton is why the amendment was introduced. I mean it could in no way be because Halliburton MAKES you sign a contract that PROHIBITS employee's from filing charges of rape against another employee.

I'm sure that what I am going to paste next will be used to gang up on the REAL victim.
"For her part, Jamie Leigh Jones seems pleased that Franken's amendment passed, regardless of who voted against it.
It means that every tear shed to go public and repeat my story over and over again to make a difference for other women was worth it," she said on Tuesday outside the Senate chamber, after hugging Sen. Franken and telling him: "Way to go."

The amendment should have been signed without anyone voting against it, there was nothing secret that was piggybacking it unlike most of the other one pushed through. There is only ONE reason that anyone cuold vote against this and that is because they are not going to go against Haliburton or KBD because of party politics. Why in the name of all that is holy would someone NOT want to make it where anyone that get's federal funding (AKA OUR TAX MONEY) are not allowed to put something in their contracts that prohibits someone from reporting a crime? Rape is a real crime and I think that we should immediately cut ALL funding off to these people as soon as we can.

The source says something that I found to be true and VERY telling. We cut off the funding for ACORN over two neo-canartists that went to offices and then turned in a tape that is edited, blacked out and very questionable BEFORE we can even verify the accuracy of the video and the GOPS couldn't do it fast enough because less than a handful of employees are accused of telling these people how to cheat on taxes by claiming this or that.
They can't however pass an amendment to make it illegal for contract companies to force this rape clause because Franken is not concerned about women raped, he is out to play politics against Haliburton. Uh-huh. Way to go Republican law makers we are SO proud of you..not even close.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 02:31 AM     
  let's face it  
 
Halliburton and its subsidiaries have been raping the American taxpayer for a long time in the figurative sense, now they can rape them literally as well.
 
  by: gryphon50a   10/09/2009 03:14 AM     
  gryphon  
 
Very good point. I wish I could say I am surprised that this amendment was voted against but I'm not. Some people carry partisanship to the very extreme and will vote against anything the other side is bringing to the table.

I actually am glad that Franken is there because he is not the typical politician and we need more people that are willing to stand up and do the right thing.
I also can not say enough that I think Jamie Leigh Jones is one of the courageous people that I have heard of recently. It should not matter what side of the damn aisle one is in when we are not holding companies that we pay responsible for their inability to protect their workers. It is disgusting and anyone who voted against this and had ANY part in this should seriously be questioned for their ability to do their job correctly. I would say they need to be removed when the next election comes along.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 03:40 AM     
  Republicans That Voted Against The Rape Amendment  
 
Remember these people come the next election. Send their names to your friends and have them forward to their friends.


Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Not Voting - 2
Byrd (D-WV)
Specter (D-PA)
 
  by: ichi     10/09/2009 05:25 AM     
  McCain Is On The List  
 
This is a man who would have been president. I wonder how many republican women would change their votes knowing how he really feels about women?
 
  by: ichi     10/09/2009 05:28 AM     
  Ichi  
 
Damn straight we need to send their names to our friends or fammily in any of those states. Do we know why Specter and Byrd did not vote?

They have no valid excuse not to vote yea for that amendment if they were at session and I mean everyone on that list. Even if they don't have daughters or granddaughters they know A woman somehow and these younger women were over there doing a job. Even if someone doesn't agree with them being over there it is does not mean that any woman that is over there, yes including the Iraqi women (I don't need to be asked if I mean them too so YES them also) or a soldier and not an employee of KBD.

This woman was gang raped and tortured. NO ONE should be above the law if they do that kind of a crime. I would feel the same way if it was a man that had been raped also even though men reporting rape is very rare.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 05:55 AM     
  @Tara  
 
I don't know about Specter, but I believe Byrd is seriously ill.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/09/2009 06:17 AM     
  Ben  
 
I think you are right about Byrd. I wonder if Spencer might a few of his former parties feelings still. I know he was a Democrat, then Republican for 40 some years and now is back to being a Democrat. I would love to know the actual reason why each of those that voted no did so. I don't mean the soundbyte for the media, I mean REALLY know why. Unless there is something way out there that we are unaware of they are scum, each and every one of them.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 06:49 AM     
  100%  
 
DISGRACEFUL...
 
  by: SoulSerenity   10/09/2009 07:10 AM     
  Question  
 
Can you legally waive the right to press criminal charges?
 
  by: ixuzus     10/09/2009 10:01 AM     
  Ix  
 
I am not sure if you can. I will look tomorrow and see if I can find anything else. I don't feel it is legal and I sure wouldnt have replyed to that question
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 10:11 AM     
  Question  
 
Has any of these senators given a reason beyond 'Franken is trying to attack Halliburton'?
 
  by: Ec5618   10/09/2009 10:31 AM     
  Repubs  
 
really need to get a grip on reality.
 
  by: nephew     10/09/2009 02:17 PM     
  Republicans....  
 
Republicans...that's what's wrong with the world today......them and......Democrats.......But seriously, everyone is always so worried about whether someone is a rep or dem, that's all I ever hear. Can we not just focus on the issues....it's almost like a conspiracy to keep everyone distracted and incapable of accomplishing anything. Sure, you can have the two parties, it's a good thing, but this constant bickering and hatred for the "other party" is just.....immature.
 
  by: JimmyD   10/09/2009 04:49 PM     
  @TaraB  
 
"Franken is not concerned about women raped, he is out to play politics against Haliburton. Uh-huh."

What? Where did this come from?
 
  by: kmazzawi     10/09/2009 04:54 PM     
  @JimmyD  
 
I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be. There's something about this group of 40 Republican Senators that makes them think we should give out federal contracts to companies who threaten people with their jobs if they pursue rape charges against their co-workers. That fact would be no less disturbing if these 30 men were Democrats or Libertarians or Greens or Constitutionalists.

That's the issue here -- and frankly, I can't believe someone could look at the issue of Congress helping companies that are making life *even harder* for rape victims and the first thing they have to say is, 'Ya know, there's just too much partisan bickering going on these days...'
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/09/2009 05:26 PM     
  Prime example of layered legislation....  
 
This bill should never have needed to be written.

I would hazard to guess that a first year law student could effectively argue that the creation of a contractual agreement which mandates against the reporting of crime is patently unlawful.

BB
 
  by: bbeljefe     10/09/2009 07:19 PM     
  Several replies  
 
kmazzawi-I'm not sure what you mean. The republicans are claiming that Franken is doing this because of politics. So I made the comment that it was because of politics and not because he is concerned about a woman that was raped. I don't see where I need to explain it any more than that. Maybe I should have said Yeah Right instead of Uh-Huh or put some little tag near it that it was a sarcastic uh-huh.


"Sen. Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama, called Franken's measure "a political attack directed at Halliburton."

JimmyD- The only reason that the party matters in this one is because they ALL voted against it aka they towed the party line.

"Sure, you can have the two parties, it's a good thing, but this constant bickering and hatred for the "other party" is just.....immature."

I'd agree with you that it is immature and in this case it is disgusting on top of that. Voting the party line to allow companies that are getting federal money to put a rape clause in their employee contracts is revolting.

BB-You are SO correct. I would like to know how this was even allowed to happen in the first place. Is the fact that they have the rape clause in their contract something no one knew at the time they were awarded these jobs? If so why hasn't this been taken care of before now AND why in the hell is anyone against this. How the hell can anyone say that putting an amendment to prevent companies to allow rape to happen and restrict the victims ability to report it party politics or picking on Haliburton. It is wrong and shame on those that voted against this passing.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 08:06 PM     
  As For Law  
 
The question gets messier when the crimes are committed outside of the United States. Want to bet Haliburton is lawyered up to their rotten little Cheney ears to protect them from legal responsibility. It gives them a great legal edge against single individuals that believe they have been wronged.

As far as the calling this just a partisan attack, the vote was bi partisan. A point of interest is the 30 republican senators that voted to deny women legal recourse from the corporations for rape. I have to wonder how much money the corporations had to spend to get a favorable vote from these 30. I also wonder why they were all republicans. My internet searches tell me that 99 percent of Haliburtons board of directors political donations went to republicans. Hmmmmm I wonder who has sold their souls, and who they are responsible to? Rmember the old Watergate Directive of "Deep Throat", "follow the money".
 
  by: ichi     10/09/2009 08:17 PM     
  Hi Tara  
 
I followed Frankens political show on tv, back when he first heard about Jamie Leigh Jones and her treatment by Haliburton and KBR. He was incensed then. He has not been a senator long and has put weight behind his earlier words. This was not just a political cheap shot.
 
  by: ichi     10/09/2009 08:30 PM     
  ....  
 
http://www.senate.gov/...

I want to know how many of you have read the text of this bill before you started giving your oppinion?
 
  by: jOnO_oRiGiNaL     10/09/2009 08:46 PM     
  Ichi  
 
"As far as the calling this just a partisan attack, the vote was bi partisan. A point of interest is the 30 republican senators that voted to deny women legal recourse from the corporations for rape. I have to wonder how much money the corporations had to spend to get a favorable vote from these 30. I also wonder why they were all republicans. My internet searches tell me that 99 percent of Haliburtons board of directors political donations went to republicans. Hmmmmm I wonder who has sold their souls, and who they are responsible to?"

Ichi, thank you for saying this much better than I can. I can find no other reason to vote against the amendment other than being bought and paid for. With it also being only the Republican side that voted against this it has to make one stop and take a hard look at the reasons they voted as they did. I would absolutley feel the same way if it was the Democrats that had done this. There is no good reason to vote against protecting women and men from being raped and unable to seek charges.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 08:51 PM     
  Hi Ichi!  
 
I don't believe it was either. I remember Franken from back in the SNL days and I was really glad to see him enter politics and then FINALLY get to DC.

I would like to see more politicans get voted in that are not scared to do the right thing even if it pisses their own party off. I do believe Franken is there because he thinks he can make postive changes that many will not agree with. I'm not saying that I will like everything he does, but if he continues along the way he is so far I hope others will be able to follow.

I think what Sessions said and the way I replied confused a few people. I have to remember smartass doesn't come through on the internets. When Sessions said that he was doing this because of Habiburton my smartass kicked in and I said oh yes it isn't because he would actually care about rape, only about politics. Uh-huh. What I should have typed is "Sessions you are a jagoff if you think that someone would use the rape and torture of a woman to pass an amendment against companies that permitted this just so they could somehow go against the Republican darling Haliburton. Grow up Mr. Session and grow a set."
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 09:04 PM     
  Ooops....  
 
I guess I somehow missed the fact that this is an amendment to a current bill. Still, it disturbs me that we have to make legislation that reminds companies that they can't break the law.

Honestly though, there is nothing about this amendment that any reasonable person would be against.

BB
 
  by: bbeljefe     10/09/2009 09:04 PM     
  jOnO  
 
I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but which part should I have seen? If I am missing something that you feel is important or that will show there was something other than wanting to make sure companies can not force employees from reporting crimes such as rape please show me. If nothing else it could bring forth some more conversation about this subject.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 09:11 PM     
  BB  
 
"Honestly though, there is nothing about this amendment that any reasonable person would be against."

That's how I feel too. jOnO mentioned something and I am waiting to see what it is in case I missed an important aspect of this. Until then I am still sticking with there is no way a company, especially one that is paid by tax payer money, should have anything about not being able to report a crime committed against them.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 09:15 PM     
  @Tara  
 
Your comment regarding that "...we are still allowing the rape of both women and men to go unpunished and unreported..." is appreciated. Not many of your gender, that I have met, have recognised the fact that men are raped as well as women.

 
  by: Noisome   10/09/2009 09:53 PM     
  @Tara  
 
It really just was a question. I want to know the reasoning behind the NO votes, havnt read the legislation - so I have not gave my oppinion on this.

I was really just curiouse to see who jumped to a conclusion before seeing if there was anything else in there. Im going to read it later tonight...but I have a feeling I will need a glass of wine...
 
  by: jOnO_oRiGiNaL     10/09/2009 10:05 PM     
  Noisme&jOnO  
 
Noisme- Thank you very much. I know and believe that men are raped and also the victims of domestic violence. Straight and gay men can be victimized and are even more likely to not report it to the authorities because of the stigma attached to the crime.

JOnO-Oh OK I was just wondering if there was something that you thought was of importance. From what I have seen there isn't anything that would make it questionable. If you happen to come across something that you think is let me know if you can.
 
  by: TaraB     10/09/2009 10:14 PM     
  Jono  
 
After the vote was made public I had a bourbon to help swallow the actions of the dirty 30.
 
  by: ichi     10/09/2009 10:20 PM     
  .....  
 
Im just confused, because McCain tends to join Dem's more than others I know...and he voted no..
 
  by: jOnO_oRiGiNaL     10/09/2009 10:22 PM     
  Al Franken for president  
   
  by: caution2     10/11/2009 03:33 AM     
 
 
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