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10/12/2009 12:40 AM ID: 81093 Permalink   

White House Calls Fox News the Communications Arm of the GOP

 

In response to a recent decline by President Barack Obama to be interviewed on Fox News, W.H. Communications Director Anita Dunn has expressed harsh criticism of Fox News in an interview on CNN's "Reliable Sources."

During that interview, Dunn made it clear that Obama's recent decline to appear was because of the administration's belief that there is a lack of fair and balanced reporting from the network and do not consider Fox comparable to other media outlets.

Of Fox News, she stated, "The reality of it is that Fox often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party."

She also added that Obama would appear again on Fox News at later dates.

 
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Fox itself admitted the truth when they said that they are more like the Editorial section than the A pages.

What Fox said.
"In a written statement given to CNN, Fox News said its programming was comparable to the editorial page of a newspaper.

“An increasing number of viewers are relying on Fox News for both news and opinion,” Fox News Senior VP Michael Clemente said in the statement, “and the average news consumer can certainly distinguish between the A-section of the newspaper and the editorial page, which is what our programming represents.

“So with all due respect to anyone who might still be confused about the difference between news reporting and vibrant opinion, my suggestion would be to talk about the stories and the facts rather than the attack the messenger . . . which over time has never worked.”

I am so, so happy that Clemente has officially said this because from now on any opinions that come from Fox news should now be viewed like it truly is AN OPINION, NOT FAIR AND BALANCED NEWS!
 
  by: TaraB     10/12/2009 01:10 AM     
  So does this take  
 
Fox news off the reliable short news sources? Prolly not cause peeps around have sighted yahoo news before.. but still might be worth a footnote on the FAQS page.
 
  by: CaveHermit   10/12/2009 03:26 AM     
  Thanks Tara  
 
Appreciate it girl. So much incriminating information in that article. I really would like SN to put Fox News on the blacklist.

This is an admission by them, that they are in fact "opinionated" and make their stories/reports reflect that.

Fox News: The ultimate GOP tool.

-np-
 
  by: NicPre     10/12/2009 04:59 AM     
  This is funny  
 
Seeing as Fox News has repeatedly asked for interviews with Obama and it has either resulted in denies or no response at all. It is so funny that they get their panties in a twist over the lack of getting to flame Obama on air.

Oh for the daya of a Republican President....
 
  by: treyjazz   10/12/2009 05:15 AM     
  It's the gospel truth!  
 
I've been saying this for years. Fox is bought and paid for by the GOP and right-wing stupid nutjobs. They have nothing but lies and half-truths. If someone's lips over at Fox are moving, they are telling lies. Their ratings are high because their lemmings love to be lied to. They soak those lies up like a sponge.
 
  by: Lurker     10/12/2009 05:21 AM     
  Nic  
 
I am glad to help out :-) Seriously when I read the source I actually clickrd the X and waited for a few minutes and looked again because I thought my meds were playing tricks with my eyes.

I am just glad they admitted what those of us with our own eyes and ears have been saying. I almost, yes almost, feel sorry for those that take OReally,BentBeck and Hannity the Calamity for real reporters and some kind of all knowing- all being Saints. I don't think that the VP of Fox will ever convince them that it is all editorial and opinionated instead of real news.
 
  by: TaraB     10/12/2009 05:31 AM     
  Edit to TaraB's addition  
 
*Glenn Beck (Father of Darkness)
 
  by: treyjazz   10/12/2009 06:01 AM     
  Fox News  
 
* The CEO of Fox News is Roger Ailes; he works for owner Rupert Murdock. Some other famous bosses of Ailes: Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Rudy Giulliani. Ailes was also the executive producer of the short-lived Rush Limbaugh TV show. He called Karl Rove in the days after 9/11 to give his opinions on what the Bush administration would need to do to avoid becoming unpopular.

* A study in 2006 found that more than two-thirds of Fox News' news stories contain the reporter's personal opinion. By comparison, reporter opinion appeared in less than 5 percent of the stories on CNN.

* The most left-leaning voice I can find early in the morning of Oct. 12 on the Fox News opinion section belongs to Bill O'Reilly, who opines that whether or not he deserved to win it, Obama's Nobel Peace Prize is good for America (http://www.foxnews.com/...

Fox News is one of the youngest news organizations and was founded after years of Republicans complaining, and teaching their supporters to complain, about liberal bias in the media -- even though many prominent Republicans have admitted that this is a strategy, not a genuine complaint. But Fox News doesn't treat Republican politicians' "working the refs" strategy as a political ploy, but rather as an actual problem that they have to address. And thus was born the first modern news organization to be founded on a political idea.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/12/2009 08:29 AM     
  Blacklist FOX  
 
No more articles from Fox on SN!
 
  by: shaohu     10/12/2009 10:01 AM     
  Blacklisting Fox  
 
The only problem I have with that is a lot of the stories on here can come from an affiliate station and they too would be blacklisted. What the SN members are going to have to remind themselves when they report it they would have to put it in the soft news.
 
  by: TaraB     10/12/2009 10:10 AM     
  @shaohu  
 
But where would we get our Republican news from!?

Maybe just add a disclaimer explaining that Fox News is a partisan entity and that the news is liable to change as sees fit...
 
  by: treyjazz   10/12/2009 11:23 AM     
  Blacklist Fox ?  
 
while i agree its a poor news service,why blacklist it,and if you do then what will be next too be blacklisted,censorship is a dangerous path to take in a democracy.
 
  by: Jammy-Doger   10/12/2009 12:35 PM     
  because it isn't real news  
 
Can we report news from The Daily Show with John Stewart?
 
  by: shaohu     10/12/2009 01:51 PM     
  @Ben_Reilly  
 
Couldn't agree more. CNN, and hell.. even MSNBC (which in my opinion is a bit too liberal) keep that opinion number CONSIDERABLY lower than Fox. Fox has no restrictions on opinionated news topics. It's infuriating to argue with Republicans who watch that show.

I really honestly think that reality has a slightly liberal biased to begin with, and when dirt-bag FAUX gets ahold of it and twists as hard as they can, it really muddies the water (as us in law enforcement like to say).

@shaohu News from The Daily Show and The Colbert Report have always been more credible than Faux. And at least with those two, you know you're getting a slightly biased *joke* with some actual evidence. Especially Stewart.

The Faux people hate those two, because both of them are truthfully liberals on their views.

-np-
 
  by: NicPre     10/12/2009 02:41 PM     
  Faux Noise is wonderful....  
 
I rank them almost as high as, 'The Weekly World News', and 'The National Enquirer'. When Faux starts printing truly great stories like, "I Gave Birth to a Two Headed Sasquatch", or "Aliens Ate My Baby, But He Got Better", then they will have achieved the pinnacle of rag journalism. I await that momentous occasion with baited breath, be still my beating heart.

Is there any wonder why Jon Steward is the most respected News Man in the country?
 
  by: valkyrie123     10/12/2009 05:29 PM     
  As I can see from the comments,  
 
obviously FOX News drives all left-wing idiots nuts. Including the Obama administration.
 
  by: Nikolai   10/12/2009 06:17 PM     
  @Nikolai  
 
Left wing idiots, sane people, the average human... call us what you'd like.

-np-
 
  by: NicPre     10/12/2009 07:11 PM     
  @Nikolai  
 
If conservatives can't get past the notion that anything that liberals find annoying is a good thing, you'll just keep losing elections.

Which, of course, I hope keeps happening. You refuse to change your ways, and you thus guarantee your continued lack of success. Because in your little peanut brains, to do otherwise would be to become a liberal.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/12/2009 07:12 PM     
  @NicPre  
 
I really would like SN to put Fox News on the blacklist.

That would be a libs dream. Oppress the opposition, that way you will be able to feel everyone thinks as you.
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 04:48 AM     
  bwaaaahaaahaa  
 
I think it's funny that there is only one news channel in the world that caters to and suits the radical right-wing nut job idiots. All the others in the world are liberal? Doesn't that prove that conservatives are a very small minority and can't grasp that Fox is nothing but lies, and that they are hopeless and 100% wrong on every issue. ROFLMAO
 
  by: Lurker     10/13/2009 05:16 AM     
  @Lurker  
 
I think it's funny that there is only one news channel in the world that caters to and suits the radical right-wing nut job idiots.

I find it funny also. Hard to believe isn't it? What is even harder to believe is you can't find one that is not bias one way or another and simply reports the truth.

Sad to say, I fail to see the humor in the actions of the rest of the media though. I actually find it extremely sickening the rest of the news channels cater to the left wing morons, don't you?
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 06:18 AM     
  @Lurker  
 
All the others in the world are liberal? Doesn't that prove that conservatives are a very small minority and can't grasp that Fox is nothing but lies, and that they are hopeless and 100% wrong on every issue. ROFLMAO

Forgot to give you these.

http://www.mediabistro.com/...

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/...

http://www.reuters.com/...

http://poli-yy.blogspot.com/...

Oh, if you need anymore to further insert the shoe in your mouth let me know, there are thousands of them.
Sometimes it helps if engage your brain before you run your mouth..
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 06:25 AM     
  Hellblazer  
 
What you fail to see is that even FOX themselves have admitted they aren't a news station, they offer an editorial outlet for the right wing.

What does their ratings even mean other than people are watching a news entertainment channel and are not even getting the news in a unbiased or "fair and balanced" way?

They compared themselves to the Op-Ed section of any newspaper so of course they will get higher ratings because they pander to a certain group of people and give them programming that the wish to see.

"Sometimes it helps if engage your brain before you run your mouth.. "

I think you need to take your own advice on this one. Oh and if you don't believe I am speaking about the facts, I suggest you look upwards and see what Clemente himself said. There is no word twisting or wishful thinking on the parts of anyone who dislikes Fox, it is the VP's actual words.

I'd also like you to see this and take Clemente's advice about not attacking the messenger. Just because you and so many others can not say that Fox is fair and balanced without it being false I wouldn't blame the "liberals" of the world, after all they have just been saying for the last several years what Fox has now admitted to being the actual truth.

“So with all due respect to anyone who might still be confused about the difference between news reporting and vibrant opinion, my suggestion would be to talk about the stories and the facts rather than the attack the messenger . . . which over time has never worked.”
 
  by: TaraB     10/13/2009 06:45 AM     
  @hellblazer  
 
Why do some people continue to brag about Fox News' ratings, as though that's some indicator of quality?

I mean, do you really want to brag that Fox News is the cable news equivalent of the National Enquirer, American Idol, Miley Cyrus, The DaVinci Code and Titanic?
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/13/2009 06:54 AM     
  @Ben_Reilly  
 

Why do some people continue to brag about Fox News' ratings, as though that's some indicator of quality?

Well Duh Bennie let me explain, The ratings reflect what the MAJORITY of the people are watching. Thus these ratings indicate more people would prefer to get their news and trust what they are watching over that of other sources. Has nothing to do with American Idol you twit. Do you have any knowledge of the stock market. Believe it or not these ratings have all to do with the financial stability of the company. Something the other major media companies are having a problem with these days. Wonder what that means Bennie??
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 07:38 AM     
  @TaraB  
 
What you fail to see is that even FOX themselves have admitted they aren't a news station, they offer an editorial outlet for the right wing.

My comment was on" I really would like SN to put Fox News on the blacklist."
Said that would be great for libs that way they would think everyone thinks like them. And another who found it funny only one states the right wing view. Stated I think its funny too, but find it sickening that all the other media only states the left view, hence....
So I don't fail to see anything of the sort. My outlook is, if they don't who will? What media other then Fox gives you any views of the right?? With that it is safe to say, the other side is nothing more then a editorial outlet for the left. It is my opinion no one reports but merely repeating.
I told you over and over, I don't buy into either side but I cant help notice how this government wants to silence any opposition and I am against that. If you except that or would rather not see it,then so be it, I don't and many others like me that won't.
Fact remains Fox ratings as I explained to Bennie is a financial indicator that they are stable and more people watch Fox then any other media outlet,what ever that outlet may be. It is that simple. Apparently people derive their news from there. Call it what you will. Only explanation is liberal don't watch the news causing the other main stream media to collapse or they are secretly watching Fox. Other major media outlets are having a hard time making ends meet. How do you explain that?

Comments made against Fox come across to me as being an attack on a media because of a left wing view. People like Ben wet their pants over things like this. Myself I am just stating facts about their ratings. Again I don't buy into either side, I believe half of what I hear, and all that I see. All that have seen in the last 10 to 15 years is a government slowly taking our rights away.
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 08:12 AM     
  Hellblazer  
 
"All that have seen in the last 10 to 15 years is a government slowly taking our rights away."

Now THAT is something I can agree with you about. I think that the Patriot Act needs to be repealed and (I know the question was to Ben about charges on those who violated laws i.e. Bush administration) those that have used faulty or flat out false intelligence to pass the Patriot Act, declare the Iraq war for reasons other than what we were told (you want to know how many people STILL believe we went there for Bin Laden?)and numerous other dealings that are very shady should be brought up on charges and even though no one would send them to Prison give them a huge part of the Bills that we have had to pay for their war games. I don't mean just Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy and such. I mean Blackwater and Halliburtin and any other company that were spoiled with ill-gotten money and ran loose doing whatever they wanted to while it tarnished our reputation.

Sorry I know that is WAY off topic but when I get going on it I am hard to settle down. I also wanted to say I am glad to see that you can accept that Fox is not a "real" news station and no I don't think MSNBC is either. I know a lot of people use CNN as the opposite of Fox but they have HLN to toss their opinion-based shows on so I have always figured that Fox, MSNBC and HLN were not real news stations. What concerns me is when someone says I get my news from Fox because they are the ONLY ones that know what is really going on. It isn't "real" news other than when they get a car chase life from California a few times a month.

Liberal news or Conservative news the fight will go on as long as this insanity of being divided as a country continues to happen. We need to put all the petty shit aside and start acting like fellow citizens before we are facing something that will not pull us back together, I don't want to see that something be a tragedy like 9/11 and I would hope no one else does.
 
  by: TaraB     10/13/2009 08:32 AM     
  @ TaraB  
 
Sorry I know that is WAY off topic but when I get going on it I am hard to settle down.

Works for me, I do the same.


Liberal news or Conservative news the fight will go on as long as this insanity of being divided as a country continues to happen.

BINGO!! Give that lady a prize. My thoughts on this exactly. I think the plan is to divide and conquer. The saying was United We Stand Divided we fall. They probably don't teach that in school anymore. The Banks and Corps that run this country won't allow it.

We need to put all the petty shit aside and start acting like fellow citizens before we are facing something that will not pull us back together,

Welcome to my point of view. Hopefully the people will wake up, unite and force our government to enforce the will of the people not their own personal ambitions and the will of the mighty corporate dollar.
 
  by: hellblazer     10/13/2009 10:19 AM     
  @hellie  
 
I can see I struck a nerve with that one, "you twit"! How about this -- why don't you go take one week of TV ratings, look at the average Fox News audience compared to the average total audience, and let me know what percentage it is?

Really, you shouldn't get too happy about Fox News' high ratings -- although I understand that people like you need *something* happy to be about these days. Fox News did have high ratings before the Republicans were humiliated in the last two national elections, after all.

And, if there were three networks telling wing-nuts exactly what they want to hear instead of just one, you do realize that Fox News would have the same ratings as CNN, right? Right? ; )

You have fun with those thoughts now Hellie!
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/13/2009 05:15 PM     
  @hellie  
 
Sorry, missed your comment to Tara there. I would have never guessed, in a million years, that you wanted conservatives and liberals to get along.

Then again, I'm just a "left-wing moron" who keeps dreaming the "libs dream" of "oppress(ing) the opposition."
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     10/13/2009 05:18 PM     
  lOL  
 
You can brag about ratings all you want, but a sewer is still a sewer and the stench from Fox has right-wingers in la la land. All you flat-earthers need some fresh air.
 
  by: Lurker     10/14/2009 12:15 AM     
  Too bad  
 
none of the idiots who get their 'news' from fox will listen to the statement from Clemente...
 
  by: nephew     10/14/2009 04:19 PM     
  THE REST OF THE STORY  
 
Isn't the MSM the shill for the Jackass Party?
 
  by: ONTIME   10/16/2009 07:42 PM     
  @Tara  
 
Thanks for linking me to this thread.

"In a written statement given to CNN, Fox News said its programming was comparable to the editorial page of a newspaper.”

Re-read that sentence, Tara. Its “programming” (i.e. – O’Reilly Factor, Hannity, Glenn Beck Show, Laura Ingram Show, et al) is like an editorial page. Nobody is going to argue with that statement. It didn’t say this its *news content* was like an editorial page. You're attempting to mince words.

Refer back to the rest of the article you quoted from for more context. Or...

"Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente, who likens the channel to a newspaper with separate sections on straight news and commentary, suggested White House officials were intentionally conflating opinion show hosts like Glenn Beck with news reporters like Major Garrett.
"It's astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming," Clemente said. "It seems self-serving on their part."
http://www.foxnews.com/...
 
  by: CArnold     10/21/2009 04:21 PM     
 
 
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