No. At least, that was the conclusion of four independent statisticians who examined 130 years of temperature data and found no trend of cooling, contradicting what has been recently claimed in some news reports and a recently released book.
The problem is that comparing unusually hot years like 1998 or 2005 to the years after them can make it look like a cooling trend is taking place. Depending on the starting point, statisticians say, different trends emerge.
"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said the chief of NOAA climate monitoring. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."
yeah that would start to form a short trend, though it that would still only be a very small trend... though it wouldn´t make the global warming thats already occured a farce, nor would it take away from our contributions which come in many form from greenhouse gas emissions, pollution, ozone-depleting chemicals, deforestation, even things as "small" as radiant heat which scientist have yet to even take into account as a man-made global warming factor yet.
Scientists have been saying that we´re going to experience 10 years of global cooling. That´s why the Left and the Global Warming alarmists have changed the tune from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change".
Barnum said that there´s a sucker born every minute. Al Gore certainly found a way to capitalize off of them...
the first link was based on a russians denial of the melting ice sheets and prediction of a new ice age.
the second link and the second is based AGAIN on blind prediction temperatures will cool by 2020, which still wouldn´t necessary change the long term global warming trend which has last a few centuries now... even the last mini ice age wasn´t caused by solar output dropping, but rather by the gulf stream in the atlantic ocean weakening.
and have one low temperature year in an above average decade (two decades consecutively actually) son´t mean anything in a trend.
"Scientists have been saying that we´re going to experience 10 years of global cooling. That´s why the Left and the Global Warming alarmists have changed the tune from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"."
no, it often called climate change because THATS WHAT IT DOES... it make weather patterns more extreme, colder, colds, hotter hots, warmer temperature in places it should colder and colder in places it should be warmer, changes in glocal and regional percipation distribution.
"Barnum said that there´s a sucker born every minute. Al Gore certainly found a way to capitalize off of them..."
on this your actually right on both accounts, but that still doesn´t change the fact that global warming and climate change do indeed exist, and we do indeed contribute to it in many ways... Gore and democrats just have alot of lobbyists that have found a way to make a profit off it... while republican´s and their dirty industry (coal and oil) lobbyists naturally are against the emergence of industry that can replace them, or even cause them to be further tax for their pollution (as they should be, though it should be put forward to a fund to reduce or ACTUALLY offset the effects of global warming, beit building green energy plant or RE-forestation effort and stricter environmental policy) and thusly they would have to be against global warming, if for nothing else than business intrests.
While I welcome the new GREEN approach companies and the goverment want to do; I don´t agree with:
a) If we don´t change now, we´ll be dead by 2010. b) Passing the blame (and cost) on the regular citizen.
Reason a: there´s really no proof to point out we´ll be dead in less than 5 years if we don´t chance. To me, the scientists that said that just wanted more funding and recognition, cuz lets face it, in the climate field nobody earns a prize unless they predict a catastrophe.
Reason B, well, that´s what the goverment and companies want, to blame and pass the cost to the regular citizen. It´s obvious big coorporations are the main reason of pollution.
Conclusion, I welcome all the green stuff but I don´t want to be f*** in the a** for it. I´m already paying a "green tax" when buying electronics because they are "hard to recycle"
"a) If we don´t change now, we´ll be dead by 2010. ... Reason a: there´s really no proof to point out we´ll be dead in less than 5 years if we don´t chance. To me, the scientists that said that just wanted more funding and recognition, cuz lets face it, in the climate field nobody earns a prize unless they predict a catastrophe."
and who is moron suggetsing global warming will kill us in the next 5 years... no it will cause less land to be avaiable viable ocean level rising, it will cause food to become less nutiutious and hence we´ll be less healthy, they´re will be food shortages (much of the world already does have them), and alot of "little" things like that, but no credible scientist has ever said will all be dead in 5 years from global warming, only that life on earth will become increasingly difficult.
"b) Passing the blame (and cost) on the regular citizen. ... Reason B, well, that´s what the goverment and companies want, to blame and pass the cost to the regular citizen. It´s obvious big coorporations are the main reason of pollution"
indeed however they need to sell it at a profitable rate...
and the ONLY reason this cost will be passed on if your power or goods come from those heavily pollution industries, technically everyone could be power independent for life for less than $20,000 thats more than it would cost for a good residential solar system setup and even a good wind turbine setup, thats only like 5-10 years of energy bills for most people, and depending on usage, size and efficency you may well be generating a few kW of surplus monthly, all while knowing you didn´t have to pay extra for it, there no carbon footprint and you could even profit from it. the problem is the oil and coal companies have no intention of changing with the times so PEOPLE are going to have the CHOOSE where they get their power from and hopefuly put oil/coal out of business in energy generation, the government is too manipulate by them to actually say by 2020 there will be no more oil or coal power and co-fund (between them and private companies or even themselves if they have to as a state/nationally owned and operated green power plants) the massive transition to green energy which would save the US more than $700 billion in oil imports ANNUALLY, and that increases every year with higher energy and fuel demands.
"Conclusion, I welcome all the green stuff but I don´t want to be f*** in the a** for it."
nor does anyone else... there are choices, you can buy from green energy sources, become personally energy independent, or pay higher prices from oil/coal derived power.
"I´m already paying a "green tax" when buying electronics because they are "hard to recycle""
many electronics companies are now making more electronic without lead, mercury and other such things, and hence wont be affects by that tax wither, much like a solar plant wouldn´t be paying for CO2 or other pollutive emissions.
@veX
"If the earth has been around for millions of years doesn´t ANYONE find a PROBLEM with the selection of data taken for only 130 years?
That´s like making assumption about a person based on 3 seconds of data..."
thats about all the detailed modern weather data we have, would you prefer they make stuff up to convince people?
There is no commercial Company right now selling solar panels and windmills for personal use. Besides when you buy a house/apartment in the city it is already connected to the main hydro supplier, you can;t get out of that unless you decide to live withouth electrictiy.
There isn´t enough of an "energy efficient" market to completely replace all of life needs. Eve And its BS the oil will end by 2020, Venezuela has enough oil to last another century for sure.
n hybrid cars, while being better, are pollution free or gas independent.
As for the electronics tax, the War Income Tax was created to support canadian World War I troops, the war has been over for more than 50 years and we are still paying it.
they may be in your home but your not actually connected at that point, you still have to pay for them to come down can connect you (and usually take 2-6 months deposit)... AND what most people don´t know is that people can sell power to the grid and many comapanies will pay them for it: http://www.businessweek.com/http://www.mrsolar.com/http://www.greendaily.com/ please don´t tell me i live in a fantasy world simply for not living in ingnorance.
"There isn´t enough of an "energy efficient" market to completely replace all of life needs."
yes actually there is... esspecially is people went to residential systems for power... but you didn´t even know about them apparently.... and they´ve been around for about 50 YEARS, they just never just mainstream because of big energy companies.
"Eve And its BS the oil will end by 2020, Venezuela has enough oil to last another century for sure."
i didn´t say that did i, i said: "the government is too manipulate by them to actually say by 2020 there will be no more oil or coal power and co-fund (between them and private companies or even themselves if they have to as a state/nationally owned and operated green power plants) the massive transition to green energy which would save the US more than $700 billion in oil imports ANNUALLY, and that increases every year with higher energy and fuel demands."
a transition to green power if both publically and privately funded wouldn´t take more than a decade, two at most. and oil could be near completely eliminated as a fuel, but obviously the oil companies have a vested intrest against this.
"n hybrid cars, while being better, are pollution free or gas independent."
we already have PURE lectric cars, again they are being held back by the energy industry; specifically oil (petro-oil).... and they ARE gas independent AND pollution free (after manufacturing of course).
"As for the electronics tax, the War Income Tax was created to support canadian World War I troops, the war has been over for more than 50 years and we are still paying it."
you can thank our central banking sytem for that, its virtually identical to the US´s federal reserve; private banks, verus a goverment own and operated central banking system which would be intrest free... and if nothing else we´d have lower taxes.
Fair enough, I didn´t know they sold power supplies and windmills for personal use. Still, while the idea is great, it is still not very realistic. - Sun Panel: based on your link, they seem pretty expensive for the return, 300$ for 60W, my computer alone is 550W. It´ll be a big investment before you cna get out of the power grid, and you still have to deal with the night. - Wind Farm: very nice, but you need to have a good location (and land) to have this going on.
And basically those solutions apply only to houses. I live in an apartment, I can´t put windmills; only 1 solar panel due to my balcony not being big.
"they may be in your home but your not actually connected at that point, you still have to pay for them to come down can connect you (and usually take 2-6 months deposit)... AND what most people don´t know is that people can sell power to the grid and many comapanies will pay them for it:"
That may apply only to house owners. Like I said, I live in a rented apartment, I can´t sell my powergrid.
"yes actually there is... esspecially is people went to residential systems for power... but you didn´t even know about them apparently.... and they´ve been around for about 50 YEARS, they just never just mainstream because of big energy companies."
"we already have PURE lectric cars"
Yeah I know we do and I don´t oppose them at all, but you can´t buy them here in Canada.
Like I said before, I like all the green stuff but I don´t want to get f*** in the a** for it. As it is right now, It´s not possible for me to get off the power grid, and even if I could I would end up bankrupt.
@rakulus No, I wasn´t drunk. My point still stands. Changing from power to green has too much of a impact on the ongoing life. That´s a sign of project failure.
I mean whats to say that the reason the ice is melting isnt from the last big rock that caused the ice age?
I sorta skimmed the big replies but jhax, your supposed to recharge batteries and stuff using the panels and subsidise your supply. I have, or at least had - dunno now, schematics for using car batteries to power a computer using an inverter. You can get a fair amount of use from them. Granted you couldnt power a server farm but the tech is getting more and more efficent.
I don´t doubt the technology. The cost is the problem.
If the market (or the goverment) comes tommorrow to give all the green stuff for free (or a reasonable price) then I´de be happy to get it.
As it stands right now, they just want to rip me off, and they are feeding me this bs of DO IT NOW OR THE WORLD WILL END TOMORROW to rush me into the purchase.
I´m sorry man but I´m not going to bother into pleasing your cherry picking.
If the polar caps melting, irreversible climate change, climate crisis and military curfew are not world ending (or dramatically changin for the worse) signs to you then nothing is.
but after reading some of the comments I just want to throw my two cents in: I´m sure there is plenty of potential for electric vehicles in Canada. If there aren´t any production vehicles sold in the country, it isn´t all that difficult to import them from the States.
Aside from that, many companies offer conversion kits to turn combustion vehicles to electric - particularly for motorbikes. You can build a bike right now that will do 150 miles on a charge which will cost between 15-30p (0.15-0.30GBP ie 0.25-0.50USD) depending on your electricity rates, and when you take into consideration the fact that battery technology improves on average by 8% each year in terms of storage capacity per unit volume, electric vehicles are not far off being very common.
Really though, electric vehicles aren´t ideal, as on average the UK industry only uses around 5% renewable sources to generate its electricity. I don´t know the figures for other countries, but I´d guess it wouldn´t be too much more or less than this. But while this situation is not ideal at present, there is plenty of scope for more work to be done and solutions to be found for alternative energy. What is really needed is a lot more investment, which shouldn´t and generally doesn´t just come from the consumer, although I´d hesitate to say that it was a 50/50 split between consumers and corporations. What we could also do with is an end to patent trolling - there are far too many viable ideas that are controlled by interested parties who feel that the idea may undermine their current business practices. If you don´t plan on using something, you shouldn´t be able to patent it.
