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Obama´s Daughters Get Swine Flu Vaccination

 

According to the White House, the president's daughters got the shot last week. The doctor is said to have used the vaccine from the health department of Washington, D.C.

The president himself and his wife, however, will wait until the priority groups, children, pregnant women, etc. have been vaccinated.

The girls allegedly did not get special treatment, like many people expect. Obama was pressed for this step to make parents lose their skepticism towards the vaccination and get their children swine flu shots as well.

 
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all means this is fair for the President showing good example.
 
  by: vizhatlan     10/28/2009 03:08 PM     
  Either way  
 
The only problem I see with it is all the people who were denied the shot and are freaking out will be pissed off and say their children were given it before others and blah blah. Either way Obama will be hung by those that dislike him.

As for the vaccine in general I am pissed that they have been throwing this h1n1 at us day after day for months and then when they do release the vaccine they didn´t have nearly enough. The second batch they say, at least in my state, will only be for those 64 and under who have health risks. Thats great and all considering I could qualify, but I rather see the elderly and children get it if they want it. All this well you can have it you can´t or we can´t schedule you for it has done nothing but making those that are already scared about H1N1 become more frightened.

They should have the vaccines at the schools on a certain day and whichever parent´s sign consent forms can have their child vaccinated. They should have the elderly who wish to have it done go to their Dept on Aging, Health Department or use a school gym to help get them done in a way that isn´t bogging down the Dr.s office´s to the point you can´t be seen for anything else.
 
  by: TaraB     10/28/2009 03:08 PM     
  n/t  
 
There will be more right-wing lies over this. All they do is lie.
 
  by: Lurker     10/28/2009 03:30 PM     
  @ Lurker  
 
"There will be more right-wing lies over this. All they do is lie."

If lies are spread they should get to the source of it and charge them, it is the only way to stop scare mongering. If they are named and shamed enough they will give up.
 
  by: captainJane     10/28/2009 04:08 PM     
  Tara  
 
"They should have the vaccines at the schools on a certain day and whichever parent´s sign consent forms can have their child vaccinated."

I just got a letter from my kids school this week stating they will be doing something like this, supposedly sometime in November.
 
  by: NoTalentAssclown     10/28/2009 10:13 PM     
  really...  
 
did they get the same one that the rest of people get, OR do they fer the ones that most politicans worldwide get, the ones without the perservatives or adjuvant, in other words the `vaccines` that really are ONLY vaccines...

or did he knowingly poison his children... i assume him and-or his staff are aware that the mass produced vaccines are outright toxic, esspecially neurologically.

H1N1 = the democrat`s 9-11.


@captainjane
``If lies are spread they should get to the source of it and charge them, it is the only way to stop scare mongering. If they are named and shamed enough they will give up.``

don`t count on it, it hasn`t worked for limbaugh, palin, cheney or fox news yet.


@taraB
"They should have the vaccines at the schools on a certain day and whichever parent´s sign consent forms can have their child vaccinated."

consent forms... what consent forms:
http://abclocal.go.com/...

http://www.foxnews.com/...
(apologies for the source it was the the first unique entry iof this particular incident in google news)
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 07:13 PM     
  Havoc  
 
(apologies for the source it was the the first unique entry iof this particular incident in google news)

I actually laughed when I first saw you posted it, it says page not found right now. I know that some places had had incidents of students getting the vaccine without permission and I would be LIVID. This state is so screwed up that the county of the Capital is giving the children vaccinations at school, ours will not be doing it.

There is only one of my kids that would need it if I did say yes since my youngest has it.
 
  by: TaraB     11/04/2009 07:34 PM     
  @Havoc  
 
"H1N1 = the democrat`s 9-11."

Yep -- next thing we´ll see is the U.S.A. S.W.I.N.E. Act, and we´ll invade two countries -- one of which never had a reported case of H1N1. Then we´ll start sending H1N1-positive people to prisons like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib. Obama will go on TV and promise to "smoke out this virus, dead or alive," asking Americans to go about their lives as usual but to report anybody acting like they´ve got H1N1 to the authorities. GlaxoSmithKline will be given billions of dollars worth of government contracts, and most of that money will be spent wastefully. We´ll launch a Global War on Flu, and we won´t distinguish between the viruses and those who shelter them.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 09:06 PM     
  Ooh -- almost forgot  
 
We´ll have a color-coded H1N1 Alert System, letting people know how afraid they should be on any given day. And the government will strenuously defend the use of "harsh interrogation" on anyone suspected of H1N1 activity.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 09:08 PM     
  @ben reilly  
 
"Yep -- next thing we´ll see is the U.S.A. S.W.I.N.E. Act,"

you mean like when obama declared it a NATIONAL EMERGENCY:
http://news.yahoo.com/...

or this article which we DID see and comment in:
http://www.shortnews.com/...

"and we´ll invade two countries -- one of which never had a reported case of H1N1."

pharmasuetical companies HAVE invaded almost every country with their swine flu vaccine poison.

"Then we´ll start sending H1N1-positive people to prisons like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib."

under an epidemic/pandemic and national emergency staus YES people can be sent to FEMA camps.

"Obama will go on TV and promise to "smoke out this virus, dead or alive,""

like the government trying to vaccinate/poison half of america which is listed as "at risk".

"asking Americans to go about their lives as usual but to report anybody acting like they´ve got H1N1 to the authorities."

aside from propagandizing everyone to receive their swine flu vaccine.

"GlaxoSmithKline will be given billions of dollars worth of government contracts, and most of that money will be spent wastefully."

not necessarilly but close, annually these swine flu vaccines stand to make billions half a billion easily, up to 4.5 billion if they reach they´re target for the US alone... almost all of which will just sit under the a small portion of richest 0.5%... how are they making this money... they´re stealling it through tax dollars...

thinks about it ben.. what opbama become president and you stop questioning things?, you stopped seeing the obvious when "your guy" got in.

"We´ll launch a Global War on Flu, and we won´t distinguish between the viruses and those who shelter them."

as i´ve pointed out many times about the toxicology of vaccines in general this IS what happened whether as a side-effect or by design.

and there ALREADY IS a global war on flu... complete with the frills of propaganda which you´ve been fully inclined to spread, seemingly because "your guy" is behind it.

"We´ll have a color-coded H1N1 Alert System, letting people know how afraid they should be on any given day."

thats the media´s job, for war/terrorism as well.

"And the government will strenuously defend the use of "harsh interrogation" on anyone suspected of H1N1 activity."

or the biological equivilent, mandatory vaccinations... WHICH ARE UNDERWAY, largely in secret, though with thousands of people publically stating they have refused it, even at the threat of their jobs, it hasn´t really stayed a secret, nor has it about no less than 3 kids that were vaccinated without consent that actually have made it into the news..

and lets not forget that in many countries many vaccines are and have long since been mandatory, to the point that most people just accept the concept of mandatory vaccination as normal.

and again lets not forget that these vaccines ARE NEUROLOGICALLY (above and beyind simply biologically) TOXIC.

whats funny is that when the nazi`s did this most of th world was against it to the point of creating the nuremburg code... now most of the wst is DOING it... and it consider normal... when hitler did it got lumped in with his eugenics programs.

and people wonder why i`m so against the US and many western countries... we are almost everything we used to be against... and most are actually proud of it.

maybe its all the flouride in the water, and neuro-toxin in medicine and food (a very common neurological toxin in food, and beverages is asparatame), people seem to be for the most part dumber than even just 75 years ago... gee i wonder if neuro-toxins effect intelligence... lol

and wah-la the code is cracked, we are being made stupid, and sick for profit and control; both short term and long term profits... just follow the money, the answer is usually where the trail ends.

so basically... don`t be so naive.
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 09:55 PM     
  @Havoc  
 
How did I know you were going to turn this into something personal? : )
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 10:11 PM     
  AT: ben reilly  
 
usually ignorance is a personal thing... until it become public that is.

and yes you`ve had virtually a 180 spin on the government since `your guy` got elected... and i`m sure i`m not the only person that notices this.

if ignorance about swine flu, big business and governent as well as your obvious 180 stance on your government since the elections is personal, so beit.

if i made the observation that stephen hawking is a genius or palin is an inoramous, would that be making it personal too... lol
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 10:24 PM     
  @Havoc  
 
That´s not really fair, you know -- I´ve posted stories and comments critical of Obama and the Democrats, and you´re just choosing to ignore those. I´m not going to get into a personal slime-flinging match with you or anybody else, but I do have to point out that it is totally nuts to equate the U.S. government response to the H1N1 outbreak to the U.S. government response to the 9/11 attacks. I mean, if you can´t see that ...
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 10:32 PM     
  AT: ben reilly  
 
``I´ve posted stories and comments critical of Obama and the Democrats, and you´re just choosing to ignore those.``

like what them trying to be bipartisan with republicans despite republicans being completely uncooperative in governance when they aren`t in power (and they`ve been that way for a few decades atleast)... i must have missed anything from you that was actually critical of obama, i typically only ignore sports, entertainment and automotive articles, they pose no intrest to me for the most part, nor any relevence to anything that actually matters in the world.

i`m not slinging slime... i`m stating obvious observations.

and yes you can equate the government propaganda and repitition of swine flu fear mongering with 9-11 quite easily.... but of course you CAN`T see that because you can`t even see the propaganda-fermongering in the first place... and more-over have actually (whether knowingly or ignorantly) aided in such as your thread post entitle ``Just to add a little balance`` while contradictorally leaving out all semblance of balance... like the fact that thus fact the easonal flu is SEVERAL time more deadly AND widespread... but as i`ve said several time, why let facts get in the way...lol

if you want to make yourself look ignorant publically you can`t then say i`m making it personal by pointing it out...

ignorance doesn`t get a pass from me... again if you think thats personal or `slime-flinging`... so beit.
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 11:05 PM     
  Well  
 
I stand by what I said, Havoc. Then again, anyone who disagrees with anything you say is obviously ignorant ...
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 11:12 PM     
  AT: ben reilly  
 
``Then again, anyone who disagrees with anything you say is obviously ignorant ...``

no, but if your unaware of facts you are by defintion ignorant... i don`t call people ignorant as an insult, i use it as the observation of ignorance that it is.

again if you *THINK* thats making it personal, so beit. i can`t force anyone to be intelligent, logical or informed... i can only point out that they aren`t and correct them (if they think i`m worry they can try to correct me)... and if they think thats me insulting them... so beit.

you might as well just say its not nice to notice negative attributes of people and thats its not fair to correct people when they`re wrong or uninformed.

but by all means ignore my points and keep taking the observations personally as a mechanism to avoid the actual points... the reposnes to the points you brought up in the first place... again wouldn`t want facts to get in the way.
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 11:46 PM     
  @Havoc  
 
Then let me just say I don´t trust the sources of your facts, and we can leave it at that!
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     11/05/2009 01:19 AM     
  @havok666  
 
you do realise if they wanted to create a real scare, the government could just ´leak´ information that it was terrorists who created the flu or film stage sets with hundred of soldies severly ill and dieing from the flu which would cause a real panic and fear. Most people seem to be fairly apathetic after the over blown claims made in the media in the first 2 or so weeks after it was discovered.

And why would the government want to posin it´s citizens? And if it was toxic, then why have there been no major reported cases of illness or scientists releasing papers? I´m not sure if the government can censor peer reviewed journals, and every biochemist would love to make a name for themselves.
 
  by: tiggyfiggy   11/05/2009 02:21 AM     
  n/t  
 
 
  by: tiggyfiggy   11/05/2009 02:32 AM     
  Also  
 
if it was a global conspiracy to poison people then this would have to involve thousands of people, all keeping quiet.
I find it hard to believe in.

Lay off Alex Jones for a while. All those conspiracies are not healthy.
 
  by: Kaleid   11/05/2009 02:36 AM     
  ignorami galore...  
 
holy shit... if you don`t believe me look it up don`t stick your head`s in the sand... look up what in the vaccines, not just the swine flu but ALL vaccines aside from special made to order ones that some politicans get that lack these `perservatives` that are all coincidentally bio-logically and usally neuro-logically toxic.

why the hell would any of you prefer ignorance... this truely is idiocracy come true...

i swear, i can see people getting dumber by the day... lay off the tap water, vaccines, and aspartame, they`ve obviously done enough damage to your cerebral cortex`s

i don`t need alex jones to tell me vaccines are toxic, i`ve known this since highschool, before i even heard of him.


AT: tiggyfiggy

i would think even the average person would be smart enough to know that without the help of a major pharasuetical and-or bio-engineering lab, or government `terrorists` don`t have the means to do such, a lab creating it would would be far, far more likely than `terrorists` (especially as its a hybrid flu swine-avian-human), and some even think that they engineered this virus to sell vaccines... and before you go and say how unlikely that is keep in mind that even computer anti-virus companies have that practice.

but irreguardless of how it evolved (or was created) the vaccines for it, and all vaccines in general are toxic, ESSPECIALLY neuro-logically.

``And why would the government want to posin it´s citizens?``

they aren`t phamasuetical companies are, they like many big industries are the REAL governments of MOST countries, the government in general do what is most profitable for the people that got them in power and keep them in power, and its not the voters as most people like to think but rather than people that fiancance them... the government have long since created laws in favor of certian businesses and against the good of and liberty of the people

``And if it was toxic, then why have there been no major reported cases of illness or scientists releasing papers``

they`re have...

look up ``cancer in vaccines`` its dated but still contains alot of relavent information as most of the same perservatives and practices are uses.

and we just had an article on SN of a person contracting a neurological disorder from the vaccines, though in the same article they they back away from that being the actual cause.

and this is above and beyond the simple and common, getting sick from the flu shot `side effect`.

``I´m not sure if the government can censor peer reviewed journals, and every biochemist would love to make a name for themselves``

the governemnt doesn`t even have to anymore... just look what happened to steven jones when he discovered the patented compound of thermate in the WTC debris piece that was sent to him but a rescue worker volunteer while almost all the other evidence was promptly destroyed (recycled).

they just label those people and their work ``fridge`` or ``conspiracy theory`` and like sheep most people follow the lead and ridicule them despite the evidence clearly being in their favor.
 
  by: HAVOC666     11/05/2009 03:51 AM     
  Brief reply re: steven jones  
 
And he also found evidence for jesus having actually visited America.

Seems to be a standard pseudo-sciencist.
He also often before he found his "evidence" for controlled demolition said things similar to "must´ve used thermite".

If you wish to debate vaccines then do it here:
http://scienceblogs.com/...
Good luck..
 
  by: Kaleid   11/05/2009 04:00 AM     
  @HAVOC666  
 
" would think even the average person would be smart enough to know that without the help of a major pharasuetical and-or bio-engineering lab, or government `terrorists` don`t have the means to do such, a lab creating it would would be far, far more likely than `terrorists` (especially as its a hybrid flu swine-avian-human), and some even think that they engineered this virus to sell vaccines... and before you go and say how unlikely that is keep in mind that even computer anti-virus companies have that practice."

Epidemics far more sever have happened in the past, long before bioengineering. Viruses develope, mix and evolve, it´s just what happens.

"...think even the average person would be smart enough to know..."
Gee thanks.
The average person hasn´t studied microbiology, molecularbiology or hell even just biology, so No i don´t think the average person is educated enough.

"but irreguardless of how it evolved (or was created) the vaccines for it, and all vaccines in general are toxic, ESSPECIALLY neuro-logically"

How so? What ´toxins´ are these, compounds, proteins... neurotransmitters? And if they are, how do they overcome the brains substantial defence, and not severly effect everyone in a very obvious manner?

"(who´s doing it?)...phamasuetical companies are..."

You´re claiming major pharmasutical companies are releasing what is in effect, a weapon of mass destruction (biological warfare), on the public, which would be a crime against humanity? You´ll need real proof, real evidence, otherwise it would be like saying the US secretly nuked NYC but no one noticed.

Every non US friendly government would be trying to prove these claims, Iran, North Korea, hell even China Russia, would love to prove something, it would cause the collapse of the offending pharma companies which would assist Chinese Pharma companies, for instance.

And if the government just wanted more money, there are far more effective ways to get it. Just keep raising taxes claiming ballooning costs, bring in emergecy taxes to pay imaginary debt or i don´t know, nationalize Apple.

"look up ``cancer in vaccines`` its dated but still contains alot of relavent information as most of the same perservatives and practices are uses."
I searched for it on MedLine, the university medical journal search engine, but it found thousands of articles so unless you can give me authours, name and date of he journal it was in, i can´t find it. If it´s not peer reviewed it IS NOT SCIENTFIC, it could be any person with a computer writing up any old thing.

I also looked up Steve Jones on the engineering database, and other then articles on world trade, i couldn´t find any article published about the World trade centres collapse.

Appologies for grammer and spelling, i´ve had a long day and too much coffee.
 
  by: tiggyfiggy   11/05/2009 04:38 AM     
  I know i´m going to hell for this,  
 
but I have to mostly agree with Havoc on this. I don´t have all his facts but recent events through my employment lend me to believe something bad is coming by accident or by design.
I do tech support for a major hospital system where I live. 1 month ago I got off the staff elevators on the 1st floor to be greeted by a nurse at table with a cooler full of syringes. This was step 1 - the seasonal flu vaccine. I had to sign a waiver that clearly stated the vaccine could kill me. I had the option to decline the vaccine but I would have to go to the Occupational Health office and fill out a form stating i did not recieve the vaccine. I also would have to wear a surgical mask over my mouth while in the hospital. I regretably chose the vaccine. All my life I have suffered from vertigo. I get an attack roughly once every 2 to 3 months. The day after I got the seasonal shot I awoke to the worst vertigo attack I have had in years. 2 weeks later the H1N1 vaccine arrived in low supply. E.D., O.R. and ICU nurses and docs were the priority due to high exposure. 1 week after that a second shipment arrived and was readily available to all staff. I have yet to to go and get mine due to my firt experience. What happened the last Monday is what really made me agree with Havoc. i got off the same staff elevators to find the same nurse fitting all staff members with a full head mask like the CDC uses when it goes into a hot zone. That sight said GAME OVER to me. It´s time to thin the herd.
Call me crazy, paranoid, whatever you want but i just don´t trust what we are being told.
 
  by: snowztorm29     11/05/2009 05:18 AM     
  @snowztorm29  
 
My friend got sick from a flu vaccine, she was sick for maybe 2 week, but is fine again. Vaccines can make you sick or cause allergic reactions, your vertigo could be caused by damaged or malformed to vison, somatosensory or vestibular system or the integration f the consituent parts, and a reaction to any of these would exacerbate your problem. Because you feel strange after taking a vaccine does not mean pharma companies are posioning people.
 
  by: tiggyfiggy   11/05/2009 05:29 AM     
  @ Tiggy  
 
I´m not going to say that pharma co´s are necessarily wanting to poison people. However, in a mad rush to be the first to bring the vaccine to the public I believe shortcuts will be taken, safety will be suspect at best and mistakes will be made. I personally am not a big user of pharmacuticals. I don´t even like to take Tylenol for a headache. IMO if most of the drugs from these companies were safe and did exactly what they were intended to do they wouldn´t need a 20 something y.o. young woman with a short skirt and low cut top to peddle their products to doctors over an expensive comped lunch.
 
  by: snowztorm29     11/05/2009 05:51 AM     
  Hrmph  
 
People have all but forgotten that correlation does not equal causation. They get sick after taking the vaccine and decide the vaccine did it, when they may have just be pre-symptomatic when they got the damn thing. They see a scary government mobilization against something they can´t see, and turn against the thing they can. They assemble a load of anecdotal evidence and preconceived notions and latch onto a theory that ties it all up into a neat little package.

So, at what point did the pharmaceutical companies go from trying to eliminate diseases like measles (now experiencing a resurgence, thanks to this hysteria) and decide, "OK, enough of that, let´s start slowly poisoning people?"
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     11/05/2009 06:02 AM     
  @snow  
 
"IMO if most of the drugs from these companies were safe and did exactly what they were intended to do they wouldn´t need a 20 something y.o. young woman with a short skirt and low cut top to peddle their products to doctors over an expensive comped lunch."

Of course they do, they have competition in a multi-billion dollar industry. Example: Antipsychotics are all more or less effective. It´s seemingly random who will be helped by which one, at what dose, etc. Yet the Drug reps still come out to push the superiority of their product, even though it´s like a Morton Salt rep trying to tell Martha Stewart that she should consider salt for her cooking because some people like it better.
 
  by: MomentOfClarity     11/05/2009 06:08 AM     
  .  
 
MOC- You couldn´t have explained it better about the drug reps. I have been told that Drug reps are good for 3 things in particular. #1- feeding the Dr and his staff lunches that they would never get on their own. #2 Pens, don´t laugh but how many of you seen the funny, cool or different pens at a Dr´s office? With electronic charts become more popular I wonder what it will be next? and #3 Samples. There are Dr.´s that will get extra samples so they can set some aside for a patient that needs a certain med but can´t afford it.

I do know one thing that has been rumored or spread by some of the fear mongers and that is that all Dr.´s are getting one with "real vaccine" and have gotten the shots as soon as they were ready to go. My dad´s Dr. just got over it and he was telling my parents that most of the Dr.´s in town didn´t get the shots either because they were gone too fast. I have known him since I was 17 and he is an honest, genuine person so I have no doubt he is telling the truth. If the Dr.´s aren´t getting the vaccination before the patients who in the hell is supposed to take care of the sick?
 
  by: TaraB     11/05/2009 07:49 AM     
 
 
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