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Anti-Net Neutrality Bill Introduced by John McCain

 

A new Senate bill called the Internet Freedom Act was recently introduced by John McCain and aims to allow the limitation of certain content by ISPs, contrary to a recent move by the FCC to prevent this very thing from occurring.

Streaming video and other bandwidth-intensive applications are off-limits under the new FCC rules, as well as charging users different rates. McCain says that the FCC's net neutrality policy represents "onerous federal regulation."

He says the rules will hurt the US job market and stifle innovation, calling it a "government takeover" of the Internet. The FCC chairman said that "reasonable and enforceable rules of the road" are necessary "to preserve a free and open Internet."

 
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  Does he even know what the internet is?  
 
I really think we should have a law that requires Senate and Congress to take a test each year to see if they can keep up with what is happening in the US & The rest of the world, to know what is new in technology, science, art etc. If they can not keep up with current events how can we expect them to truly represent us?

He is introducing this bill because the internet providers and it seems a lame attempt to cut down or stop illegal downloads. I pay a flat rate for my service and I should be able to run at the speeds they advertised when I signed up for it years ago if I want to download 24-7 it shouldn´t matter, hell we are lucky to get the average day as it is and I finally told them if they are giving me half of what they told me I´d have, I will start sending them in half the bill.

McCain, retire and enjoy the last few years you have. Take a kickass retirement + health insurance that´s a dream and go.
 
 by: TaraB     11/02/2009 09:02 AM     
  Amazing how they claim to protect the things they  
 
actually threaten.

Regulation: to preserve a free and open Internet.
War: to protect the freedom of the Iraqi people.
RIP: to protect the freedoms of the American people.
DHS: otherwise "then the terrorists win".

And turning full circle:
McCain says that the FCC´s net neutrality policy represents "onerous federal regulation."

As patriotic and ´mainstream fluffy´ as he makes himself out to be, he´s just a corporate shill:

http://edition.cnn.com/
Murdoch: Web sites to charge for content
 
 by: redstain   11/02/2009 09:40 AM     
  This story is nonsensical  
 
Maybe I´m just tired, but...

- McCain wants to limit freedom with his Freedom Act.
- FCC wants to protect neutrality
- McCain says the exclusion of regulation is regulation
- FCC says we need rules (we need regulations to avoid regulation?).
 
 by: H. W. Hutchins   11/02/2009 09:48 AM     
  First time John McCain has ever been right!  
 
The internet is enemy #1 of the super rich criminals that control this planet, and the only way that they are ever going to take it down, is if they can get FCC control over it, through "Net-Neutrality" regulations.

How many stories have we seen on Short News about out of control governments like China, and even AUSTRALIA using the power of regulation to totally censor the internet?

Big corporations obviously wanna monopolize the internet, but does anyone really believe that there is any way for them to accomplish this without big government power?

I truly suspect that John McCain has been chosen by the rich/greedy scumbags who own the government, to lead the charge against government controlling the internet, because they know that so many people hate John McCain for being the complete phony scumbag that he is.

The oligarchs who control the leadership of both the Republicans and the Democrats are definite masters of manipulative psychology, including reverse.

Please keep an open mind.
 
 by: Circuit_Monkey   11/02/2009 10:18 AM     
  McCain and the repubs  
 
Have no clue, they are dinosaurs. Why can´t they just die and turn into oil already, so they can actually have a purpose, I need to fill up my SUV.
 
 by: OrIgInAl_ThOuGhT   11/02/2009 11:30 AM     
  Without neutrality  
 
A New Scenerio Illustrating What Might Happen If Net Neutrality Disappears

http://www.dump.com/
 
 by: Kaleid   11/02/2009 01:04 PM     
  Bah  
 
Anyone who thinks McCain may be right on this needs to read his thoughts on it. He has no idea what he´s talking about. This is probably the reason the bill is called the "Internet Freedom Act"... it´s the only way anyone could support it.

http://arstechnica.com/
 
 by: erasedgod   11/02/2009 09:57 PM     
  @H.W Hutchins  
 
Maybe I´m just tired to, it has been a long day, but I think your right. I can´t make since of this story.
 
 by: JimmyD   11/02/2009 10:07 PM     
  So Who Owns McCain?  
 
If he hasn´t a clue what he is talking about , then Who wrote the bill for him?

John´s true self becomes more and more obvious.
 
 by: ichi     11/02/2009 10:14 PM     
  I´m missing something  
 
How does Anti-Net Neutrality help keep "businesses free from oppressive regulations" when the regulations will seemingly be "You ISP´s can´t set any regulations or restrictions on content."

Why is a 73 year old man trying to pass laws regarding the Internet? I´d bet money the dude can´t set the clock on his VCR...

"DVD what now? What type of new-fangled movie player is that?"
 
 by: barryman9001   11/03/2009 01:18 AM     
  Internets? What are Internets?  
 
LOL How would he know what net neutrality even is?

McCain Admits He Doesn´t Know How To Use A Computer (VIDEO)


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
 
 by: Lurker     11/03/2009 01:29 AM     
  McCain is a ludite jackass...  
 
The internet is the last bastion of free enterprise, and more importantly, free flow of information. That is what scares ‘the power that be’ the most. Internet news sites that can disseminate information at light speed to millions of readers, uncontrolled, uncensored, are the biggest threat the establishment has. “We the People” can remain informed, organize and act using this simple to access tool. This scares the hell out of them. Watch the Evening News on any network then go peruse the internet news channels and it is easy to see what is omitted completely and/or twisted into complete lies.

The Nazi’s had information control and propaganda down to a science, Corporate America and their lackeys, the US government, are following right in their footsteps. Spoon feed them pabulum, keep the sheeple under control, like mindless zombies. “Hey everybody, there’s a boy floating away in a balloon, a balloon boy, everybody look!” Never mind that your soul is being sold to the devil and your grandchildren are being sold into indebted servitude.

Why is this Bill called “Internet Freedom”??? It’s like “The Patriot Act”. It’s just the opposite of what it’s labeled. Another example of ‘twisted lies’ that they tell you on the Evening News. The internet ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.
 
 by: valkyrie123     11/03/2009 02:43 AM     
  @  
 
@Kaleid:

"Net-Neutrality" is a name for federal regulation over the internet, which currently does not exist.

The "scenario" that you are linking to is basically propaganda, which is encourages the myth that; unregulated, ISP´s will monopolize the internet.

Care to explain why some of the biggest corporations on this planet, such as Microsoft and Google are proponents of "net-neutrality" regulation?

Google has a monopoly working hand in hand with the Chinese government, in order to completely control the internet in China, and now you want them to do the same thing over here?

Shame on you for being so completely ignorant.

@barryman9001

Yes, you are missing something.

"Net-Neutrality" is supposed to keep the internet free, in the same way that the "Patriot Act" is supposed to protect America.

By giving government more and more power to control anything that it wants.

Government control is the only real threat to the internet, because big corporations cannot monopolize the internet on their own.

Google and Microsoft need government power, like they have in China, if the internet is ever going to be totally censored and monopolized.

@valkrie123

You are correct that the internet is the last bastion of freedom, but you are incorrect in believing that government regulation is not a direct assault on that freedom.

The "Patriot Act" gave the government more and more power to "protect our freedom" and now "Net-Neutrality" wants to giver the government more and more power to "protect our freedom on the internet"

This may be the only thing that John McCain has ever happened to do correctly, but nonetheless, "Net-Neutrality" must be defeated, if we are going to keep the internet free.
 
 by: circuit_monkey   11/03/2009 03:14 AM     
  If Net Neutrality happens..  
 
Old-school BBS´s will make a come back.
 
 by: CaveHermit   11/03/2009 03:31 AM     
  @Monkey & Hermit  
 
Monkey: Net Neutrality will make ISPs treat all traffic equally, the way they used to before they started showing preference and throttling traffic they don´t like. Why do you think ISPs gave John McCain almost a million dollars over the last several years? Net Neutrality isn´t something that the government cooked up. It´s something that experts and experienced users have been calling for for years. The only people who are against it are ISPs, people in the pockets of ISPs, and people who are clueless about how the internet works. Reading the "technical" arguments (the ones with the tin-foil hat conspiracies) is enough to make anyone who knows the slightest bit about networking realize that those arguments have no basis in fact.

Hermit: If Net Neutrality happens, no one will notice. Otherwise, BBSs will make a comeback.
 
 by: erasedgod   11/03/2009 04:47 AM     
  Edit Button  
 
"the ones with the tin-foil hat conspiracie)" should be "...without..."

Such great arguments as "The internet isn´t a big truck you can just dump something in... it´s a series of tubes."
 
 by: erasedgod   11/03/2009 04:50 AM     
  @ Lurker  
 
BAAHAAHAHAH!! THat´s awesome man

Spread that like wildfire. I can´t even count how many times mccain has been caught with his pants still on fire.. what a joke that old bastid has made of himself
 
 by: gman   11/03/2009 08:25 PM     
  Here´s my dime´s worth  
 
The internet is not the bastion of democracy nor the core pulse of intelligence in the universe. It´s a communication system - mostly used for porn, vain talking, and a pile of information that no one has to answer for.
But McCain´s bill deals with none of that. What he wants is to allow for companies to privatize the use of this communication highway. Kinda like the use of tax money to build tolls that charge the tax payer money that then are sold to private companies; thereby allowing the collection of both tax money to build private projects and the laundering of money to fill pockets under the table. Such as the senator/rep that allowed such a deal to go through. Same thing happened to hospitals - they were once built and run by charities - and then were taken over by private companies who then charged patient´s for services that once were provided freely.
There is no consequence to such a dirty deal... so therefore, we must not let this START to happen.
Neither one of these stupidly titled rules/laws is good for the internet as a communication highway. Both are being influenced by private interests that are competing to monopolize the internet´s use.
 
 by: mexicanrevolution   11/03/2009 08:44 PM     
  @ circuit  
 
What are your sources? Let me guess, libertarian conspiracy websites?

Sometimes protective laws are required. Like against child labor. That law too limits freedoms but its a damn fine law.
 
 by: Kaleid   11/03/2009 08:52 PM     
  @  
 
@erasedgod

"Net-Neutrality" will ensure that government gains more control over the internet.

Why don´t you compare the news you read about ISP´s screwing internet users, to the news you read about governments screwing internet users.

There is simply no comparison, government is the only real threat.

Competition between ISP´s is what will keep the internet free, and always improving also, unless the government completely kills the economy, but I digress...

ISP´s gave John McCain money, because ISP´s want to defend themselves from out of control government, it´s that simple.

Why are true leviathans like Google and Microsoft spending millions to promote government control of the internet?

Are you even aware of the fact that Google and the Chinese government work hand in hand to completely censor and monopolize the internet?

Do you know what the definition of fascism is?

"Net-Neutrality" is something that the biggest fascists on this planet have cooked up, and it is sad to say that many IT experts have swallowed the propaganda, hook like and sinker.

Please try using your brain.

@mexicanrevolution

You are wrong about the internet.

The internet is the continuation of the Enlightenment.

The Enlightenment started when the Gutenberg press was invented, and people started reading the Bible for themselves.

I am not a religious person, but this when the idea of individual thought, and a free society, really started to form, in relatively modern times.

Present day media is almost completely centralized by handful of oligarchs, and the internet is breaking this apart, despite the fact that it is also largely used for porn.

Also, you are completely wrong in how you characterize McCains bill.

"Taxpayer money to build tolls"?

What the hell are you talking about?

ISP´s use private money, to build private networks, and make private contracts, with private individuals.

Have you ever heard of free enterprise, or are you just some complete communist who thinks that the state should own/run everything?

At least you seem to acknowledge that "Net-Neutrality" is backed by mega giant corporations who are trying to monopolize the internet.

Also, I know that ISP´s would love to monopolize the internet if they could, but what you need to realize is that no one can monopolize the internet, unless government power is used to enable them.

All we really need to do is restore the free market, and everything will be ok for the most part.

@kaleid

Of course I am an obvious libertarian, and anyone with a brain knows that major conspiracies exist on this planet, but that is not really the focus of what I am talking about.

All I am really saying is that unless you want the US government to get together with Google, and censor/monopolize the internet the same way that they do in China, then you need to realize that "Net-Neutrality" is a very very bad idea.

Also, who said that all "protective law" should be abolished?

Of course child labor laws are necessary, but what the hell does child labor have to do with ISP´s throttling your service?

I know that the potential for abuse from an ISP exists, but why can´t it just be handled with a lawsuit if necessary?

Why do people like you feel the need to have government running everything, when the free market/civil courts could easily handle such things, without the same massive potential for government/corporatist abuse?
 
 by: Circuit_Monkey   11/04/2009 05:00 AM     
  This is great.  
 
I´m glad to see so many people against this. Other modern countries have at least twice the average bandwidth of the U.S. user, so this is utter crap.
 
 by: DoubleTake   11/04/2009 09:42 PM     
  AT: circuit monkey  
 
please make sure your head isn`t up your ass the next time you want to chip in your two cents about net neutrality since you seem to be FOR the restriction of the internet, rather than the freedom of the internet.

Net-Neutrality IS:
``Network neutrality (also net neutrality, Internet neutrality) is a principle proposed for user access networks participating in the Internet that advocates no restrictions on content, sites, or platforms, on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, and on the modes of communication allowed, as well as communication that is not unreasonably degraded by other traffic.[1][2][3]

The principle states that if a given user pays for a certain level of Internet access, and another user pays for a given level of access, that the two users should be able to connect to each other at the subscribed level of access.``
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/
and your against this... which logically means you support a more facist version of the internet, one where companies can litterally control entire segments of the internet WITHOUT without government authority, as you constantly say they would need, when infact thats EXACTLY what mccain`s bill does, gives the ISP`s the government authority to limit, restrict ``content, sites, or platforms, on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, and on the modes of communication allowed``

most of the people against net-netrality are the people that want to restict the flow in online information...

and you support this... you know that means you by definition are supporting facism right.

as opposed to net netrality which would mandate that people actually get what they pay for from their ISP... rather than a facists wet dream of the internet... which is what has started to occur without the net netruality bill which would make the practice of limiting bandwidth, or blocking site that would otherwise not be blocked illegal.

how anyone not seeking to control the internet wouldn`t support net-neutrality is beyond me.
 
 by: HAVOC666     11/04/2009 10:14 PM     
  @DT  
 
You bring up a good point, too -- we need to bring U.S. bandwidth up to the world standard. Sheez, we´ve got half our kids on food stamps at some point in their lives; we´ve got slow Internet -- we in the U.S. need to get our act together.

By the way, just my two cents -- McCain´s bill SUCKS. If you got Internet through, say, Time-Warner Cable, McCain´s bill would make it perfectly legal for Time-Warner, which owns CNN, to make access to CNN´s web content really, really fast and slow down the content of all CNN´s competitors. Same goes for any media company that provides Internet.

We wouldn´t accept it if cable companies owned some channels and made those channels come in razor-sharp, and had fuzzy pictures for channels they didn´t own. This is the same thing.
 
 by: Ben_Reilly     11/04/2009 10:27 PM     
 
 
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