Senate Narrowly Defeats Attempt to Block Civilian Trials for 9/11 Suspects

The Pledge of Allegiance:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and JUSTICE FOR ALL."

The test is justice for all, if you deny any justice then your oath is worthless, If you deny any justice you deny yourself the right to justice.

I am not surprised the right has issues with the tenets that the U.S. is based on when it disagrees with what they want. About the constitution "its just a damn piece of paper" to quote Bush. It looks like the oath they swore to the flag is just a "damn" bunch of words to them.

It will be good to see him put on trial, but I don´t know exactly what the opposition is about, he´s pleading guilty last I heard. He confessed to his role in 9/11 to Al Jazeera in 2002 before he was captured, so even if he used subsequent torture as a defense, unless Al Jazeera tortured him into a confession, he already admitted his crime.

also admitted to assassinating John Kennedy after his fifth waterboarding.

now they can be tried get convicted, go to our state and federal jails and have things done to them that will have them wishing they were at Gitmo and then killed. Everyone does relaize this is what will happen.


In the end they will be wishing for Gitmo

Do you *seriously* believe that? I mean, really? C´mon, you´ve got more sense than that. I know you do.

... in order to be abundantly clear: If regular old U.S. prisoners were facing harsher conditions than the Gitmo prisoners were, every single Republican and Bush supporter would have been crowing that non-stop for the last three years. The Fox News pundits would never stop talking about it. Fox News would do a special report on it.

There is *no way* the folks who had the unfortunate task of excusing the Bush torture program would have have missed the opportunity to point out that regular prisoners had it tougher.

The whole world knows that the attacks of 9/11 where not planed by KLM. But the American public still believes this fairy tale. They tortured his CHILDREN. Who would not confess to anything when he sees a stick with Battery acid put into his daughters vagina?! The US makes me sick! This was admitted by the CIA. This once great nation of liberty and freedom is now nothing but the 3rd Reich. The USA are the Nazis of the 21. Century. Why do you support this?! If the US will fall, all will be lost. Liberty will be a thing of the past world wide. Americans, please defend you nation while you still can! We count on you!

I have no doubt they will. If these guys aren´t put into protective custody bad things will happen to them. IMO worse then Gitmo. Gang Rapes, beatings, and knowing the prison population they won´t kill these guys but slowly torture them day after day.

I´d rather be waterboarded then gang raped by men anyday of the week. I´d rather be humilated by posing in dirty poses then be gangraped wouldnt you.

The punishment that will be inflicted upon these guys should make you sick Ben afterall you are against torture as most of us are but the same will happen just worse

Willy- You know as well as the rest of us that any Gitmo detainee that is found guilty will be put into a Super Max. There is no way they are going to let the "supposed" mastermind of 9/11 into gen pop.

He will spend the rest of his days in a cell 23 hours a day, let out to shower and possibly walk in one of the cages. No one will get their hands on him and if they do there will be some guards in deep shit. The worst thing they could try to do is have his cell on the opposite side that they say the Qiblahwould be, but you don´t have to face east or west it depends on where you are living, most agree that the US is a NE towards Mecca,not Allah.

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Question time for anyone that knows the answer. With these rules, especially the washing of the body before and during these prayers and the 5 times a day they must pray, How is he going to be able to do that if he is found guilty and sent to SuperMax?d

We should be holding trials for part of the CIA instead of this guy.

Child rape/torture is not excusable in any circumstance, but ESPECIALLY given the fact that so much evidence points out 9/11 as a false flag operation.

Come on. Tell us you didn´t really mean that you thought they´d put some of the worst terrorists in history into a prison´s general population. We all know you´re not that laughably stupid. Defend yourself, man!

shouldn´t they be in general pop? Why should they get special treeatment? I know you personaly don´t believe in the death penalty but shouldn´t they be subjected to that as well.


Why should he be in protective custody? Or anyone of them for that matter? I´d hate to say bleeding heart liberal but thats what it seems like IMHO. Why should they get special treatment? Don´t alot of people want these guys to have the same rights as Americans? Very few people are in protective custody they should be no different.

It´s just my opinion why give them protective custody? If they did wrong and are convicted Oh Well. If you don´t want to do the time don´t do the crime plain and simple

was tortured for years every day! Who would not have confessed to anything? His children have been tortured in front of him and he had to watch it. He even confessed to have planed attacks while he was already detained. How is this even possible? The whole 9/11 story is so unbelievable anyway. If it where a Hollywood movie it would get criticized for the logical errors and plot holes. How can hijackers with only a few hours of flight-training on small chesna planes suddenly fly these commercial airliners perfectly, and fly extremely complicated maneuvers that even expert pilots say are almost impossible flawlessly? Why does the offical report say the planes did fly 944 km/h at ground level which is not possible, they can do this only in 10 kilometers hight. There are so many holes and logical problems with the official story, it is simply impossible to believe for someone who thinks just a few hours about it.

they don´t put prisoners who will be targeted for murder in gen-pop.

that´s what I´m talkin bout