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11/18/2009 08:20 PM ID: 81756 Permalink   

10-Year-Old Girl Tased


According to a report filed by officer Dustin Bradshaw of the Ozark Police Department, the officer was forced to use a "very, very brief" stun with a Taser to subdue a combative 10-year-old girl.

In the police report, Officer Bradshaw was called to the girl's home when her mother called the police. The girl was refusing to follow her mother's instructions, and when officer Bradshaw arrived, he found the girl screaming and crying on the floor.

The mother asked Bradshaw to take the girl to jail, but the girl violently kicked at Bradshaw and planted one in his groin. At that point he used his Taser to put the girl in handcuffs. The Western Arkansas Youth Shelter in Cecil has taken her.

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  About the Use of Force...  
Maybe a little bit excessive? In my opinion developing bodies probably shouldn´t be subjected to high voltages.
  by: modom56k   11/18/2009 01:33 PM     
  Were all these adults abused as children?  
Did their daddies while away the nights applying spark jumpers them when they were children?

´Cos what they´re doing is breeding another child who´s going to grow up thinking Tasers are a substitute for parenting.
  by: redstain   11/18/2009 01:44 PM     
  I think they should have...  
tazed the mother first for raising such a brat and then tazed the kid full out for being such a brat. I have little sympathy for unruly kids or their idiot parents. Spare the rod, spoil the child.
  by: valkyrie123     11/18/2009 02:45 PM     
year old girl Tasered and handcuffed, this is ridiculous.
  by: vizhatlan     11/18/2009 03:23 PM     
  W T F  
If a cop can´t restrain a 10 year old girl without a taser he should retire from the force and take up knitting or something. I don´t care if the mom isn´t doing her job or how much of a brat the kid is, that´s effing ridiculous. The only reason he tazed her is because she clocked him in the junk, and he was like "that little bi...". If he can´t control his emotions he shouldn´t be aloud to wear a badge. His life was in no way being threatened, the was NO EXCUSE to use a taser on a little girl for ANY reason. Period. HE should be jailed and/or removed from the force immediately IMO. Disgusting.
  by: spiggy   11/18/2009 03:37 PM     
Ya a lot of cops now don´t even really try to follow procedure or do their jobs at all. The only thing that makes me feel a bit better about this is he will never be able to get away from it. "Ahhh it´s a ten year old, quick taz ´em!" ;p
  by: splicer   11/18/2009 05:53 PM     
Agreed. What a vagina, aren´t there some minimum strength and conditioning requirements to become a police officer? And this cop can´t handle a 10 year old girl?

What´s the deal with a mom asking the cops to arrest her child for throwing a tantrum?

You need a license to buy a dog...
  by: barryman9001   11/18/2009 07:27 PM     
Although you wouldn´t think it to be difficult, had he used excessive force such as grabbing her arm too hard or maybe even pulling her across the carpet then that would have been the story we were reading and not what we were given. It´s really a lose lose situation for the police.
  by: importfanaticr34   11/18/2009 07:50 PM     
  Who decides?  
We all hear 10 year old and think OMG what a cop can´t handle a 10 year old. Another thread we have 10 year olds that are 200+ pounds. A third thread is a 10 year old taking a gun to school. All of these things were news so far this year. I was going to say 10 year old pregnant, but I think that was 11 so doesn´t count.

A big part of the article is missing here since the officer was actually CARRYING the girl when she kicked him in the groin and the girl was then tased briefly.

So does the cop tase anyone if he is tagged in the tables or tase no one if he is? What if he used something else to subdue her? Or does he just let this girl kick him in the groin over and over? Does it matter if the girl is heavy or thin?
  by: TaraB     11/18/2009 09:01 PM     
  She needs a sharpe lesson...  
or she will land up in jail as soon as she in an adult.
Pain is pain and any kid can inflict it as and when they want and just walk free. This is why we are in such a mess in the UK.
  by: captainJane     11/18/2009 09:51 PM     
I actually thought about the Yob problem when I read this. I am sure there is a lot more than we even know. I´m also sure there will now be a lawsuit even though the mother called the police there in the first place.

Maybe the mom shouldn´t have called the police and should have instead got her own daughter to behave. Too many people think that the police needs to be called for every little thing. Spank your kid if they act up or whatever other punishment you use like standing in the corner etc.
  by: TaraB     11/18/2009 10:43 PM     
  Here´s the problem:  
Can´t discipline your kids without the cops being called. So, parent is forced to call cops on kid.
Cops exercise power of state on kid.
Everyone is happy because the kid may turn out to be a good citizen of the state.

What is sick about this whole thing is this: what the hell is the state doing in the family? It´s not like it´s a better parent (obviously : by tasing the child). Why is the parent not trying to parent: because the state has limited her ability to parent - using threats of violence and incarceration.

Tasing paralyzes a person - so if they are standing, they fall on their face without being able to put their hands up for protection. This usually leads to broken jaws, noses, knocked out teeth. When you get tased, you also end up biting your tongue, cheek, or break teeth and to add cops don´t ask if you have a heart condition before they zap you. Sometimes, they even pull out a gun and shoot you thinking they were tasing you (ref calif. subway shooting). oopsy!

This my friends: is insanity. Insert Franklin quote here.
  by: mexicanrevolution   11/18/2009 11:37 PM     
  What is the state doing in the family...  
good question.

If the family restrained the kid in any way they would be locked up! So what are people supposed to do in such a situation?
  by: captainJane     11/19/2009 12:19 AM     
  There is a lot of hysteria here  
This incident is the point of the taser. Yes, the child was 10, but the summary says that she was getting violent. So the police officer, AFTER being kicked in the jewels, subdued her in the least harmful way possible to cuff the kid and prevent injury to himself or her.

Had he not had a taser, he would have had several other options:

1. Wrestle with the kid while waiting for backup, possibly injuring the kid or being clawed or bitten himself
2. Subdue the kid with a billy club
3. Deadly force

After reviewing these options, the cop really had only one choice: tase the kid briefly, then put her in handcuffs. If the kid is behaviorally disturbed, this is the best option - incapacitate, then restrain. After that, get the kid the psych help needed.
  by: cranky_paranoid     11/19/2009 12:29 AM     
  So he did the best...  
under a rotten situation. @ Cranky.

If he wants a defense lawyer I am your man. or girl come to think of it. ;)
  by: captainJane     11/19/2009 12:57 AM     
  @cranky_paranoid: westle a 10 year old kid.  
Who was the officer?
. Christopher Reeve?
. Stephen Hawking?

What would the officer do when the child hits her 11th birthday? Call for SWAT backup?

[parents taking their kids to little league baseball - really]
  by: redstain   11/19/2009 01:37 AM     
In New Zealand they keep trying to tell us that tazers are good because the police will use them only in situations where they would otherwise have to use a gun.

I never believed that for a second.
  by: jamesmc   11/19/2009 03:02 AM     
You do raise an interesting question. I used to work closely with an inpatient psych hospital unit. Even though some of the patients were that age, when they got combative it would take several security guards to physically restrain the patient in such a way as to prevent the kid from hurting himself/herself or others. Yes, they´re smaller but when they get desparate or enraged and andrenaline starts flowing, they are capable of injuring people.
  by: cranky_paranoid     11/19/2009 03:51 AM     
If being electrocuted isn´t injury, I don´t know what is. When you need to impose pain to get people to comply, you´ve gone too far.
  by: H. W. Hutchins   11/19/2009 03:56 AM     
That is indeed a very brave man...
  by: konfucius   11/19/2009 04:35 AM     
  Yes you CAN spank your own kid  
"Can´t discipline your kids without the cops being called. So, parent is forced to call cops on kid."

Common misconception and silliness. You, in fact, may discipline your child and that means even spank them if you want, just not beat them. We have all heard stories saying "You can´t even spank your own kid these days" and "my friend that knows this woman who owned a bakery said <insert story>."
You even followed yourself up with a good whine about why we have to depend on police these days and that they are also in our lives too much.

"Why is the parent not trying to parent: because the state has limited her ability to parent - using threats of violence and incarceration."

Another load of it. The state never threatened her for punishing her daughter, unless there is a part of this story that isn´t being said. If you mean that in a general term it is still a load of it. Police do not want to waste their time to come into your house and be a parent for your kids. Half these dumbass parents call them up and then the whole time the officer is trying to talk to the kid the parent is yelling how they are going to take them to jail if they keep this or that up. Which not only will they not take a kid to juvie for not cleaning their room, it makes kids dislike police and in 10-15 years they will be parents doing the same thing that was done except with their own kids.

Police do not care that you punish your child, in fact they would be a lot happier if you actually did punish them instead of threatening them with the police taking them away or coddling their asses and never making them responsible for their actions. Spank your kid if you want, don´t beat your kid which is two different things.
  by: TaraB     11/19/2009 05:37 AM     
  I´m sorta with Cranky on this  
I touched on it in my first reply, but we really don´t know the specifics like height and weight, medical issues like all these DD disorders:ADD, ADHD, ODD, and whatever other DD they are creating these days.

Cranky also mentioned this:
"I used to work closely with an inpatient psych hospital unit. Even though some of the patients were that age, when they got combative it would take several security guards to physically restrain the patient in such a way as to prevent the kid from hurting himself/herself or others."

I totally believe that happening and was thinking we can even build off of that because we have all read news articles where someone had an adrenaline rush and picked a car off of someone or was able to get away from a dangerous situation by overpowering another person that any other time they wouldn´t be able to.

They are reporting that the cop briefly tased her and half the people are acting like it was a full on tase with a re-load. The cop had already been forced to pick her up while trying to get her out of the house, then she kicked him in the balls hell yes she got tased, I would have tased her it she kicked me in the muffin!

As for this people always stiffen up and fall and can´t move BS? There is one tape that shows a guy tased 2 times and up and beating a cop between the tases, there are many instances that have happened where the person doesnt freeze, fall and not move.
Shit this guy runs while being tased

This is the only link I could find on the one I was speaking about, they cut out the part that while waiting for back-up after the first tase and pulls the prongs out, he is on top of the cop beating her.

  by: TaraB     11/19/2009 06:04 AM     
  @cranky_paranoid: ten.,. years ... old  
You talk about super strong psychiatric patients. I´ve seen epileptics being super strong.

But dude, all you examples are of adults.
This is a ten year old!

A really strong 10 year old, A really strong baby. A really strong rabbit. They´re just about the same threat to an adult.

If he´s threatened by a 10 year old, what is he doing being an officer?
  by: redstain   11/19/2009 10:07 AM     
Is what happens when your not allowed to discipline your children with spanking. I got the belt when I acted like a dick. Guess what? I stopped acting like a dick! physical punishment works, If your a parent and can talk your kids into not misbehaving? good for you, if your kid is acting like a brat and not reasoning? bring the belt out or in this case the taser. She got what was coming to her for at least the past 5 years.
  by: Thorsblood   11/19/2009 10:08 AM     
  measured response  
Methods of corporal punishment for children.
(- just my opinion)
smack/cane across palm/posterior

not acceptable.
smack/cane across back
stress positions
half empty bottle of JD across room
when person administering it is drunk
when person administering it is not parent
when person administering it is not authorized in writing.
baseball bat
  by: redstain   11/19/2009 03:20 PM     
  This "spare the rod" bullshit...  
My parents never physically disciplined me as a kid. We were borderline poverty level when I was a kid too, so this isn´t some rich kid "time out" sort of a deal. They explained things to me, made me see things from other perspectives, a few guilt trips. Guess what? I never acted out in public, never assaulted them or anyone else, rarely got in trouble with them or at school for anything, and never even got into any real fights growing up other than yelling and a little pushing.

Have any of you advocating physical punishment ever wondered if the whole discipline through spanking, etc, was more for YOU and relieving of your stress and frustration than it is actually the most constructive way to solve a problem? Have you ever thoroughly explored other options? Chances are if you´ve already been physically punishing your child you have have already gone down the road to where you´ve established a pattern that can´t be broken.

Think of all the urban youth in gangs, and all of the gang violence that occurs, especially in impoverished areas... do you guys honestly think the majority of these violent killers, etc, were not spanked as kids? Really? My guess is that a lot of them were spanked just as much as anyone else and what good did it do?

I don´t care if we´re talking about yobs in the UK or 10 yr old brats in the US kicking police officers, the problem is with bad and/or lazy parenting skills, not lack of physical punishment. You´re teaching your kids that if someone does something that you don´t like/don´t agree with, that it´s OK to hurt them for it.

@Thorsblood: "She got what was coming to her for at least the past 5 years."

Oh yeah, you´re right - they should have started tazing her at 5 years old and this would never have happened right? Do you realize all of the psychological development that goes on between the ages of 5 and 10? This shit is how serial killers, etc, are made. Any of you think this little girl is going to be a better citizen when she grows up because of having her little nervous system fried by a "protector of the peace" at ten years old? If anything it´s going to make her even more of a little psycho. Her mom was clearly not qualified for the job.

Speaking of which, I can´t believe any of you are siding with the douchebag of a cop on this. It blows my mind. I´m afraid of heights, therefore I´m not going to apply to be a window washer of tall buildings, etc. Police officers join the force knowing they could be killed at any time, they could be shot, stabbed, punched, kicked, etc, and should accept this fact as part of the job. They should only use guns, batons, mace, or tasers if they are in direct danger of being killed or severely wounded. Caution should be used even when physically subduing violent criminals, so that it can be as nonviolent as possible - even for legal reasons if not ethical. So what, he took one in the balls from a little girl. He should have called for backup including a psychologist if he couldn´t nonviolently (carefully) subdue a 10 year old girl. How is tazing her any different from punching her in the face? Tazing her could have killed her via heart attack and it shot barbed spikes into her flesh. What if she had moved suddenly and been caught in the eye blinding her for life? If this cop was being surrounded by a mob of little girls beating the crap out of him, he should have called for backup. This was an underage child. He is pathetic for even considering using a taser on her. Pathetic. Any one of you otherwise seemingly rational people should be ashamed for taking up for him.
  by: spiggy   11/19/2009 04:04 PM     
Redstain: I agree with your beliefs in discipline.

My examples were actually kids. Psych patients or behaviorally disturbed kids will scratch, claw, and bite. They don´t see a problem with injuring people - that´s why it takes multiple people to restrain them. I´ve been on a behavioral emergency for a person who was no threat to me, but it took 5 of us to restrain her in such a way as to not pose risk of injury to ourselves or (worse) her.

Spiggy: you are right in that tasers are not appropriate discpline tools for kids. There are times when spanking is appropriate; I´ve done it to my kids a couple of times. There are times where a lesson absolutely has to be taught in such a way that it is not forgotten. In one case, it was running out into traffic. The value of spanking is not in the spanking but in the realization it can happen. So I was able to teach the kids not to touch my guns by both showing them the guns and by warning them that touching them without permission was an automatic spanking. Same for matches. I never had to; merely the possibility was enough. The kids are not well-adjusted kids and we have a good relationship.

And you are right in that cops are aware that they can be injured. But they don´t go to work hoping that will happen and they actively try to prevent that from happening.
  by: cranky_paranoid     11/20/2009 03:10 AM     
They are now well adjusted kids. I meant that, not "not". Stupid typing skills.
  by: cranky_paranoid     11/20/2009 03:11 AM     
For one wonderful moment I thought the headline might have been "Teased" misspelled...
  by: Framtonm   11/20/2009 05:25 AM     
Haha, man. Your lack of remorse always makes for an entertaining read. Don´t get me wrong though, I´m trying to work on my own insensitivity as I may be going too soft as I get older. That´s why I´m going to try this out.

YEAH, take that, punk kid. Guess you won´t be kicking any officers in the groin, aye?! Get´em Officer Shocky McShockerton, from Shockerville USA aka Dustin!
  by: Dayron   11/20/2009 03:05 PM     
I didn´t read all the comments, but I have to agree with spiggy that he should be able to handle a 10 year old or get off force.

Don´t cops have mace anymore? I really think it should be used before a taser. Even a baton. Farrrrrrrrrr less risk of killing them.
  by: PeddlerOfFlesh   11/20/2009 10:38 PM     
  Someone tell me, please  
How is using a taser on her any better than rendering her unconscious by socking her in the head?

If he had balled up his fist and punched her in the head as hard as he could, would you taser excuser´s be all right with that?
  by: jbloodthorn   11/21/2009 04:40 AM     
  Thorsblood isn´t a parent - or even close to one  
No parent would stand for that kind of abuse.
I wouldn´t even be able to use ´Second Degree´ as a plea.

As Spiggy says: This shit is how serial killers, etc, are made.

The mother obviously squeezed one out ´cos she was a tramp/drunk and too cheap buy protection. It´s apparent because she has no parental instinct hasn´t brought the child up right; a sorry path which has led to this incident.

And the officer ... it would be grotesquely interesting to see how he sees the world. Does he see crosshairs on every face he walks past? Because he´s obviously lost all judgement if his inhibitions didn´t kick in as he levelled his sidearm at a 10 year old child.
  by: redstain   11/21/2009 05:46 AM     
I use the term ´levelled´ loosely.
the girl-child would only come up to his waist line.

If he was aiming even at the torso, he wouldn´t have to raise the barrel before he fired.

  by: redstain   11/21/2009 05:54 AM     
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