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03/01/2010 08:21 AM ID: 83126 Permalink   

Smoking Marijuana May Increase Risk of Psychosis, Delusions and Hallucinations


A study in Australia in which some 3,100 young people took part has shown that prolonged marijuana use can increase the risk of psychosis, delusions and hallucinations. The average age of the participants was just 20 years old.

Study author Dr. John McGrath said: "Compared with those who had never used cannabis, young adults who had six or more years since first use of cannabis... were twice as likely to develop a non-affective psychosis..."

He added that, "There was a ´dose-response´ relationship between the variables of interest: the longer the duration since the first cannabis use, the higher the risk of psychosis-related outcomes."

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3,100 young people from Oz are the test group? The average participant was just 20 years old so how exactly is that an example of "prolonged" marijuana use? There are so many variables that can be calculated into the equation that it is not possible to say that psychosis, delusions, and hallucinations are increased with marijuana usage.
I think that some people are more attracted to it, and possible those with possible delusion and psychosis problems are more likely to be attracted to marijuana than those who suffer no "abnormalities"

"Among the participants, 65 had been diagnosed with a "non-affective psychosis" such as schizophrenia, and 233 had at least one positive item for hallucination on a diagnostic interview conducted for the study."

It is hard to believe that "scientists" would fall into the "post hoc ergo proctor hoc fallacy" but it seems they do (often).
I´ve been a heavy weed smoker for the last 10 years, before that I did lots of strong hallucinogenic drugs (like acid and mescaline) and I´ve been a drinker as well for the last 16 years. (Smoked cigarettes for 11 years as well)....So if one day I should fall into a delusional psychosis they would say it is because marijuana increased the chances of me developing a psychosis? (regardless of the other greater influences in my life)

And how many people out there have REALLY hallucinated because of weed? Do these people know what a hallucination is? Honestly, how many of you have smoked weed and then had a hallucination? How many times has weed caused the tree tops to morph into a leafy dragon and fly away over the city while farting bird feathers?
I´ve smoked lots and lots of stuff from every corner of the world and though some weed will knock me on my ass I´ve never seen something that wasn´t there because of weed and I´ve never spoken to anyone who has hallucinated because of weed.
  by: shaohu     03/01/2010 09:07 AM     
  From the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)  
"at this time, it is not clear whether marijuana use causes mental problems, exacerbates them, or is used in attempt to self-medicate symptoms already in existence."

"Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person’s existing problems worse." -uhhh how insightful[!].
ANYTHING in excess has the potential to cause problems or make existing problems worse. The computer games, Battlefield 1943 and later Battlefield Vietnam caused a lot more problems for me in my life than weed or acid ever did.
  by: shaohu     03/01/2010 09:25 AM     
I couldnt agree with you more!
  by: M4CRO_   03/01/2010 10:25 AM     
  And how many people died during this study???  
Oh, zero. I think this guy needs to stop smoking so much weed and get a life and stop writing grants for taxpayer money to do stupid studies. If you drink too much water it will kill you, many have already died. I have never heard of anyone dieing of an overdose of pot in the history of the world. So lets ban water, its very dangerous. Why do these people keep grasping at straws, are they that desperate for taxpayer funding to keep themselves busy and make a name for themselves? Of course you will get high if you smoke enough pot, you will get looped. And if you smoke a whole box of cigars in one sitting you will be on the floor, if you drink a quart of tequila you will be unconscious, did it really take a study to figure out that pot makes you high and a lot of pot will make you really high? It´s still the safest drug in existence.
  by: valkyrie123     03/01/2010 02:57 PM     
  Psychosis, Delusions and Hallucinations?  
Wow, I´m going to have to find a better supply. Did they mean salvia? That I could understand. Marijuana? Please.
  by: spiggy   03/01/2010 03:14 PM     
  Old news  
  by: caution2     03/01/2010 07:56 PM     
  some are more prone to hallucinations  
than others. If you have ever hallucinated in your life, and I have many many times, it doesn´t take much to set it off again. I was given beta blockers at one time and the hallucinations I had from those were just as real as anything I have ever seen. And they weren´t real pleasant.
  by: John E Angel     03/01/2010 08:37 PM     
Never hallucinated, and I´ve done quite a few drugs including some ´hallucinogens´...nope still nothing...if anything shrooms made everything really bright, but I never hallucinated.
  by: Illustro Malum   03/01/2010 09:42 PM     
I´ve been smoking the wrong stuff. Where can I get what they used for this study?
  by: Kolman   03/01/2010 09:57 PM     
  @Illustro Malum  
Increased your eye sight.

I have hallucinated off smoking when I first started. It was trippy, but nothing extreme like. I have a done a lot of hallucinogens & I know there are layers or levels to the hallucinations & if anything the cannabis flower is just a step up.

It can be mixed with hallucinogens too, but depending on what you take its good to smoke at certain times to boost it. For instance if you smoke while coming up on mushrooms it will lower the peak, yet if you smoke at or after the peak you will be pushed further.

The hallucinations when I had them where nothing special. I think the only one would have been when my firends cat became the center of my perspective so when the cat moved it didn´t move but the world moved around him. Very cool, but nothing spectacular. Couldn´t control it & it has only happened another time while on mushrooms when a balloon we where bouncing around became the center of my perspective & that was really interesting because the world moved around more energetically.

Oh & colors that are not there too. Rainbow like.
  by: vhan     03/01/2010 10:00 PM     
Vhan, how dare thee, call Havoc pot head.. LOL.

  by: skcusswentrohs     03/01/2010 10:47 PM     
  You know....  
....unripe mulberries are hallucinogenic? Damn mulberry tree. Spiny Apple too, damn wild plant. You know that bending over, breathing deeply for thirty breaths, then having a friend Lift you up with a reverse bear hug, you can have hallucinogenic episodes (at summer camp)? In the case that Mary Jane would cause such symptoms, maybe they should just stay away from it, or it could hint at deeper already existing problems. Pot gave my Mom a headache the one time she tried it, so she never smoked it again. Problem solved.
  by: tuogh     03/02/2010 01:06 AM     
  Dave´s not here man.  
I would like to add to this story, that lack of good marijuana can lead to depression.
You ever had some bad weed ?
Thats was like the worst feeling in the world.

You : " Hey, whats the matter ?"
Me: "Got some bad weed."
You: ´Aw man, really, aw man thats too bad."
Me : " Yeah I know"

Anybody else ever pick up that?

  by: MannyisHere     03/02/2010 05:07 AM     
  @shaohu that is the question. Would of you played Battlefield 1942 that many hours without the influence of weed? LOL. That is actually a serious question.

I have to agree that the government, DEA, and the ATF are using the old study papers as proof. The study was to use monkeys, and fill the room with so much THC (Weed, pot, ganja, marijuana) smoke that the monkeys almost die from suffocation. The monkeys turned out retarded because there were no oxygen left in the sealed room. They couldn´t find a good reason to out law marijuana, so they created false study.
  by: slayer06   03/02/2010 05:09 AM     
  hmm...interesting to see  
we are paying idiots to research and ´discover´ that which is already known.
  by: questworldz     03/02/2010 01:26 PM     
  To further the Logic (or lack of it)  
Lets just crunch some quick numbers.

The article says ~3,100 people were "studied". Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and do something dangerous and ASSUME they knew how to conduct a strong scientific test with subjects from varying ages and demographics.

"Among the participants, 65 had been diagnosed with a "non-affective psychosis"."

Okay, so 65/3100 = 0.0209677

So approximately 2% of the people studied developed what the TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE IS CALLED?

WOW. Nice fkin spin on that one. Well played right-winged media...well played.
  by: vex   03/02/2010 06:50 PM     
good question. The answer is yes, I would have played just as much. I went dry a couple of times and didn´t bother to get up from the computer to go buy more because I didn´t want to stop playing.
  by: shaohu     03/03/2010 02:54 AM     
  *shakes head*  
Halucination definition - Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality.

Everyone halucinates. Everyone. Ever thought you heard someone call your name but they didn´t? Your´re guilty. Ever thought you saw a flicker of movement out of the corner of your eye? You´re guilty. Ever caught a random scent for a second with no cause? You´re guilty.
Unless they were incredibly explicit in what they counted as a true halucination when they were asking the test subjects, which I doubt, then the error margin here is monumental. They might as well not have bothered.

Btw been a pot smoker for 10 years now and have no issues (that I know of).
Pretty sure my hard drinking days have done more damage.

  by: ThinkPeople   03/04/2010 04:47 PM     
Why else would one smoke it??
  by: Hytekhik   03/04/2010 08:06 PM     
Lol you actually want an answer to that? or you just being humorous?

  by: ThinkPeople   03/04/2010 08:54 PM     
  Ok somethings wrong  
with my SN. @the deeder, I got an email saying you replied to me but it´s not showing up on the thread. If you want me to read it I think you´re going to have to PM me.
  by: ThinkPeople   03/08/2010 11:28 AM     
Comments left with f bombs are removed.
  by: caution2     03/09/2010 10:14 PM     
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