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Americans View Socialism More Favorably Than the Tea Party: Polls

 

Polling reveals that socialism is viewed positively by slightly more Americans than the Tea Party is. In a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, 35 percent of respondents say they view the Tea Party favorably.

A Gallup poll, however, found that 36 percent of Americans have a favorable view of socialism. The liberal blog Firedoglake noted that the Tea Party is about as popular among Americans as is the nation of Saudi Arabia.

"Kinda figures," noted the blog. "Both love do drill for oil, hate gays and believe in theocracy." 54 percent approve of how President Obama is doing his job, and 52 percent favor stricter gun control laws.

 
  Source: www.citybeat.com  
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  58 Comments
  
  A match made in heaven.  
 
"Both love do drill for oil, hate gays and believe in theocracy."
 
  by: MannyisHere     01/25/2011 05:43 PM     
  I have mentioned their popularity with the press..  
 
While the tea party is a minority they seem to garner the lions share of the press coverage. There was recently a tea party gathering in Iowa that hosted a whole 35 people yet they had major News Networks covering their actions. Why? Has the press become so right wing extremist that they will kowtow to the tea parties every whim? Are those in control of the media pushing this agenda for propaganda purposes? Is it the sensationalism factor like the Westbrough Baptists? Why is this extremist minority being given so much air time? I find it sad every time I see these trailer trash rednecks on TV being used as pawns to do the bidding of the corporate power elite. Such fools.
 
  by: Valkyrie123     01/25/2011 06:30 PM     
  Tea Party People  
 
I can only go by the Tea Party people I know personally, and I can tell you it´s not a group of people who spend too much time reading. Literacy isn´t one of their strong points.

Most people who react negatively to the term "Socialist" can´t define it. They let their choice of news channels do that for them.
 
  by: Jim8   01/25/2011 07:11 PM     
  see who is sponsoring the poll!  
 
want answers that fit your poll? make sure it is conducted in areas that favor what you want to hear. want socialisum? easy, go to areas where welefare is high or areas where polls have in the past given answers favoring socialisum views. polls are a way to sway people into believing what they want people to swing to in belief. are eggs bad? get teh egg industry to back a poll and see the results. eggs are great! same for coffee or any thing else! exit polls at elections... great polls released and watch those that want to be on the winning side jump on the band wagon or the person with the most support in the polls.polls are for the sheep!
 
  by: shannon853   01/25/2011 07:18 PM     
  @Jim8  
 
Literacy is communist to these people.
 
  by: Lurker     01/25/2011 07:20 PM     
  Shannon  
 
Just did a quick check, and shannon never replies to anyone who replies to his comments. He/she is just a troll.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 07:57 PM     
  I´ll respond  
 
Isn´t there a policy against using BLOGS as a news-source? Especially the misinformed ones you tend to cherry pick?

Per your blog:
"A new, wide-ranging Washington Post-ABC News poll reveals that 35 percent of respondents had a favorable view of the Tea Party..."

In the above quote, the words "Washington Post-ABC News" are hyperlinks that direct the reader to the Washington Post article that the blogger used as his source.

Funny thing is, nowhere in the article does it say, "...35 percent of respondents had a favorable view of the Tea Party..."

The ONLY reference it makes regarding polled favoribility is:
"Separately, 52 percent of Americans now hold unfavorable views of the tea party..."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...


More propoganda from the pathetically dishonest Ben. I´m very disappointed; even *this* is a new low for you.
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 08:11 PM     
  @Admin  
 
Are we now allowed to use BLOGS as "news" sources? Ben has shown, on multiple occasions, that there are many out there that are not accurate and often misrepresent the facts to conform to their political agendas.

This is the third article in the past couple of days in which Ben has used BLOGS for his sources. If this is indeed allowed, I´ve got a few BLOGS I´d love to create submissions for.
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 08:14 PM     
  It Is Time To Can The Whole Government  
 
We have advanced to the point of no longer needing a government or money. They no longer protect the people, in fact they enslave the people. Using technology we could live in a world of excess were everybody has everything that they need to survive & only those that want to work have to!
 
  by: ArchAngelMichael777   01/25/2011 08:17 PM     
  The Common Thread I Found In The Tea Partyers  
 
I have met is fear.

They have been whipped into a almost religious pan-phobia by the right wing media. The constant repeating of talking points, buzz words and phrases are like a chant. The ones I have met honestly believe the United States is going to destruction unless they regain control by "ANY" means available.


In the minds of the ones I have met it would almost be blasphemy to test any of the assumptions and media talking points that form the frame work of their driven party.

Most of the arguments I have seen and heard from the Tea Party are media driven and fear based.



[ edited by ichi ]
 
  by: ichi     01/25/2011 08:17 PM     
  Here Is Another Source.  
 
http://www.examiner.com/... And Ca it does.

[ edited by ichi ]
 
  by: ichi     01/25/2011 08:27 PM     
  @ichi  
 
Good point about the fear mongering. Any good Nazi knows that fear is a very useful weapon when trying to control the masses. Just tell the people they are being attacked and they will do whatever you want.
 
  by: slavefortheman     01/25/2011 08:30 PM     
  @CA  
 
good catch. I can´t find that 35% anywhere either. Although I don´t doubt it around that number
 
  by: syoware   01/25/2011 08:33 PM     
  @ichi  
 
Where in your source does it mention the Tea Party, much less say that "...35 percent of respondents say they view the Tea Party favorably."

Keep searching.
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 08:35 PM     
  @Syo  
 
Ben has been on quite a propaganda campaign, lately, that involves spreading misinformation.
What’s so ironic is that the people that flock to this made-up information and embrace it are the same ones that claim Fox News is spreading lies. Heh.

I, too, post blogs… but I post them in the Forum.

Ben’s credibility = FAIL!
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 08:38 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
This indeed is a blog source referring to an unscientific poll. I suggest everyone flag this news for blocking, as it is not even news.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     01/25/2011 08:57 PM     
  Support-a-Teabag  
 
Here is the support i found after a bit of googling, I know the numbers changed few month after the poll was taken when the tea party candidates started talking more often in public, but i don´t have the numbers.

http://www.gallup.com/...

"Thirty percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters, 28% are opponents, and 36% are neutral to the movement, according to combined data from three USA Today/Gallup polls conducted in March, May, and June 2010."
 
  by: kmazzawi     01/25/2011 09:17 PM     
  (contd)  
 
The link i poted above also has an interesting table about the parallel between what the teabaggers claim is important, and what the neutral americans and what the republicans claim is important.

You can pretty much immediately see that the tea-party is the rebrandnig of the republican party but a bit more on the right.
 
  by: kmazzawi     01/25/2011 09:19 PM     
  The Facts  
 
I finally found the poll that Ben’s blog was referring to. Between Ben and the blog’s author, we’ve just witnessed how creative Liberals can desperately be to bend and warp the truth.

From Ben’s summary:
“In a **new** Washington Post-ABC News poll, 35 percent of respondents say they view the Tea Party favorably.”

Notice my emphasis on the word, “new”.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News poll that reported a 35% favorability for the Tea Party was in this link:
http://abcnews.go.com/...

Look at the date: Feb. 11, 2010. Nearly a year old.
Seems that the Liberals will redefine “new” to make it fit their corrupt views and agendas.

In fact, the *new* Washington Post-ABC News poll was released just yesterday. This poll was centered on gun control and political discourse. Again, there is nothing in the poll that reports (much less questioned) support or favorability of the Tea Party. Have a look for yourself. It’s only 9 pages long and a quick read:
http://www.langerresearch.com/...

Ben’s summary and his source are frauds, concocted for the sole purposes of propagating misinformation and falsely promoting deceitful propaganda.


@Ben
“…never replies to anyone who replies to his comments. He/she is just a troll.”
You’ve got quite a bit of explaining to do to these readers. By your own definition and standard, neglecting to do so will classify you as a troll. A very dishonest one, at that.


@Lurker
“Literacy is communist to these people.”
I knew it was only a matter of time before you came out of the closet and admitted to being one.
Great literacy skills, there, Troll Boy.


Word of the day: PWNED!
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 09:51 PM     
  Carnold = RETARDED CRY-BABY!  
 
35 percent approve of the Teabagging Party: http://www.langerresearch.com/...

I wish you were at least smart enough to admit that you´re too stupid to find polling results on your own.

 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 10:04 PM     
  @Ben_Reilly  
 
Blogs are not NEWS. Read short news submission terms. A scientific poll requires at least 100,000 responders to be accurate to within 3 points. Your poll does not meet that criteria.

I checked both Zogby and Rasmussen and only 18% of Americans view socialism favorably. So you can go eat a donkey dong.

We all know that shitty non-scientific polls using a Frank Luntz style questioning and manipulate data any way they want. The point here is though you are posting OPINION pieces as news. They are NOT NEWs. Read the god damn site guidelines.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     01/25/2011 10:14 PM     
  @TU  
 
Ooh, you *scare* me with your big tough-man words!
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 10:15 PM     
  So, now libs quote Blogs as fact.  
 
nuff said.

 
  by: moxpearl   01/25/2011 10:22 PM     
  A little Maturity Problem ?  
 
You defeat any validity you have when you resort to name calling.


 
  by: ichi     01/25/2011 10:24 PM     
  Also @Carnold  
 
While we´re at it, I backed up the conclusions of recent blog-related links I posted with three other solid sources in this thread:

http://shortnews.com/...

... from which you promptly ran with your tail tucked between your legs! : )

P.S.: I love how you claim your poll above was the "newest" and then I come back with one from the same firm that came out the next day. You´re just so ... *on top* of things!

Carnold = POOR FACT CHECKER or LIAR (I´m thinking the latter)
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 10:25 PM     
  Now that we have your attention...  
 
Do you see the problem with using blogs as a source? Do you see the confusion that was spurred as a result of your flimsy blog?

Did you notice that not one of your supporters was able to find that information, themselves? Your blog didn´t contain correct links and people are justifiably skeptical of blogs.

I´m glad I could illustrate the point.

Next time use a *real* news article. This is "ShortNews". Not "ShortBlogs".
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 10:25 PM     
  @Carnold  
 
What was demonstrated is that performing a simple Google search is beyond you.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 10:29 PM     
  @Benny  
 
Don’t get too cocky, Benny.
The 35% poll number is but one picture in a larger collage of what’s wrong with your “source”.
The poll is totally unscientific and compares two polls that are totally unrelated.

Two hypothetical poll questions:

Question 1:
If you found out you had 4 days to live and it was going to cost your family $1-million per day for treatment to stay alive during those 4 days, would you:
A) Forgo treatment, die, and save your family the expense.
B) Undergo treatment and make the most of those 4 days.
C) Undecided.

Results:
A) 87%
B) 5%
C) 8%

Question 2:
Given the choice of the three, which do you more favorably support?
A) Socialism
B) Capitalism
C) Another political/societal system?

Results:
A) 10%
B) 85%
C) 5%


Note that they’re two totally unrelated polls and weren’t asked within the context of being relative to each other in the questions. Along comes your blogger and says, “Hmmm… More people favor dying than they favor Capitalism. I think I’ll spin this into some propaganda to support my twisted political agenda, and hopefully someone as unscrupulous as myself will spread my obvious deceit.”

Enter Ben.

You picked up a BLOG that no journalist with a bit of integrity would dare write. It’s manipulative and dishonest. This is why you can’t find a reputable news-outlet that would run such a story. Hence, why you were left with no choice but to use this BLOG as your source.

Google *that*.
 
  by: CArnold     01/25/2011 10:57 PM     
  @Carnold  
 
The article is what it is -- a comparison of two polling results. Wipe your eyes and get over it. Oh, and your little scenario above is completely retarded. Obviously you can conduct several polls that ask people if they like something or dislike like it and compare the results. Certainly, if someone compared a Rasmussen Poll that said 60 percent of Americans held an unfavorable view of Obama to a Gallup Poll that said 45 percent of Americans held a favorable view of Bush, you´d be on here talking about how more Americans favor Bush than Obama. The difference would be that you´d once again be relying upon a former Bush employee (Rassmussen) for your facts -- as is your obvious preference.

[ edited by Ben_Reilly ]
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/25/2011 11:00 PM     
  Yeah, I´m a lil´ dissapointed....  
 
"The Tea Party" began as a grassroots backlash against the two party system, fueled in great part by the transference of enthusiasm from Ron Paul´s campaign/movement. It began to threaten the status quo, who then co-opted it with various media spins. If it can still manage to reign in any kind of spending, it won´t be a total loss, but we´re definitely back to the unprincipled partisan mud-slinging.

Keep swinging that pendulum back and forth, stay rutted in the pop politics and reactionary reasoning. Every four years we can all be even more miserable as we go further left and right.

Way to work it through, enablers.

In a new poll, a joint production coordinated by Rupert Murdoch and David Rockefeller, only 11 percent of Americans are even able to accurately define socialism... while a staggering 88% believe paper backed by debt is actually wealth. Results are still pending as to which ideal is more popular - enforcing a state religion, or forcing the half of the populace to give the other half some money - with easy credit terms.
 
  by: jenkie     01/26/2011 12:14 AM     
  @Benny  
 
"The article is what it is..."

It´s not an article. It´s a BLOG. Let´s get that straight, first.

But you are right: It is what it is.
What “it is” is deceptive and misleading.

It took two numbers from two totally different polls and reported the unrelated results as if it were a question on a poll asking, “Which do you support more? Socialism or the Tea Party?”

Had such a pointed question been asked within a poll, the actual results would be significantly different than the fairy-tale comparison you and the blogger are pushing. 36% support Socialism? The other 64% would have said, “Screw socialism. I’ll back the Tea Party before I back a bunch of pinkos.”

Again, your credibility and that of your BLOGger have been undermined by your “at-any-cost” effort to prop up your malignant ideology.

This isn’t news. It’s wishful thinking.
 
  by: CArnold     01/26/2011 12:30 AM     
  @Carnold  
 
The fact that they were two separate polls in no way invalidates the comparison. Stop acting like a moron. Unless, of course, it isn´t an act ...
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/26/2011 12:42 AM     
  @Benny  
 
“The fact that they were two separate polls in no way invalidates the comparison.”

You might be right, Ben. I just took two separate polls in the office:

Poll 1:
Would you rather:
A) Eat Pelosi’s turds
B) Stick your head into crucible of molten steel
C) Be drawn and quartered by 4 Mack trucks.


Poll 2:
Who would you most likely believe?
A) Ben_Reilly
B) Barack Obama
D) Nancy Pelosi


Guess what, Ben?
Based on your logic, more people would rather eat turds and steel-plate their heads than believe a word you say.
Sadly enough, if I had combined the two polls, the results would probably have been the same.

Go to your nearest pharmacy and buy some Common Sense pills.
 
  by: CArnold     01/26/2011 12:58 AM     
  @Carnold  
 
Wow, you are being really, really think about this. Guess that´s easy enough to understand; you´re a conservative, after all.

It would be more like if I went out and asked SN users if they liked you or disliked you, and if Lurker went out and asked SN users if they like TU or disliked him.

Even if I only got 20 responses and he got 25, the percentages would make for a useful comparison.

Thus endeth the lesson, though I am going to archive this thread to demonstrate my skill at instructing Special Ed students ...
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/26/2011 01:16 AM     
  @Ben_Reilly  
 
This is the worst piece of trash I´ve ever seen on short news. You deserve prison time for submitting this garbage like it was accurate.
 
  by: EPICREPORTER   01/26/2011 03:21 AM     
  @EPIC  
 
If it makes you that mad, it was all worth it!
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/26/2011 03:23 AM     
  @Ben  
 
So you only post articles to make people mad?

Some reporter. ;)
 
  by: datsuncaptain1     01/26/2011 04:50 AM     
  @datsun  
 
so does fox news :) though it makes people mad on both sides for different reasons.

right mad at the left
left mad at fox news
 
  by: syoware   01/26/2011 05:54 AM     
  @Benny  
 
In response to your previous remark:

“…I backed up the conclusions of recent blog-related links I posted with three other solid sources…from which you promptly ran with your tail tucked between your legs!”

More wishful thinking, Benny. Your optimism and self-serving ego just makes you simply adorable.
[Reaches out and gently pinches Benny on his cute little chubby cheeks. Soooo precious!]

In the thread you linked, I said:

“Your PBS link goes to a blog. The person that wrote the blog made up that 25% figure.”
Then I provided you with a link to the referenced poll your BLOGger was referencing.

Your response?

“…while the link he provided did not cite the 25 percent in favor of total repeal, these reports, which are about the same poll, did…”

Your BLOGger’s link was broke, so of course it didn’t cite the 25%. Secondly, your 3 “solid” links gave 3 different interpretations of the poll.

Then, there’s this thread in which you were arguing that Reagan made a disputed quote in 1989, when he really made it in 1971.
http://www.shortnews.com/...

The source of your misinformation? Another BLOG.
I used a video documentary and *reputable* sources to show you that you were wrong… and you *still* refused to admit your error.

It would seem that you’ve become disenchanted with the truths of reality, so you’ve plugged your head into the proverbial sand by way of sealing yourself into the world of other make-believe bloggers. I suppose some people find the dream-world more comforting that the real one.

Wake up and realize that nobody wants to be fed your diet of misinformation and not everybody is so naive and dumb to believe the crap you attempt to label as fact.
 
  by: carnold     01/26/2011 07:29 AM     
  @Ben  
 
I wouldn´t give bad criticism much thought when:

http://regretfulmorning.com/...
 
  by: vhan     01/26/2011 09:14 AM     
  @Jenkie  
 
"The Tea Party" began as a grassroots backlash against the two party system, fueled in great part by the transference of enthusiasm from Ron Paul´s campaign/movement."

Looking at the history of the tea party now, it looks like it was more as a grassroot dissent by the republicans against their party. Here is a comparison as to what the tea party stands for, what the republicans stand for, and what the average american stand for. You will see that the tea party are just dissenting republicans.

I believe at first it was genuine upset republicans, and then it was taken by genuine upset lobbyist that were not getting what they wanted so easy anymore (tap running dry perhaps).

http://www.gallup.com/...

http://www.gallup.com/...


 
  by: kmazzawi     01/26/2011 02:51 PM     
  @Chucky  
 
"WAAAAAAA!!!!! Your BWOGger’s wink was bwoke, so of course it didn’t cite the 25%. Secondly, your 3 “solid” links gave 3 diffewent interpwetations of the poll!!!!!!!!!"

Oh, poor baby! Is your development so stunted that you can´t follow the logic of these simple statements?

"As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law." .... "1 in 4 back complete repeal" .... " 36 percent want to repeal it or reduce its scope, (with 26 percent favoring repeal and 10 percent wanting to scale it back)"

Is your helmet on too tight? Better loosen that up, and if you don´t try to bite me I´ll wipe the drool off your chin and give you a lollipop!

"Boo-hoo! I hafta changa subject ´cause I´m losin´ the awgument! So wook at this thwead in which you were awguing that Weagan made a disputed quote in 1989, when he really made it in 1971!!!!!!!!!
http://www.showtnews.com/...

Now, Chucky, didn´t I tell you about the difference between BLOGs and articles for the Los Angeles Times written by NPR Senior News Analysts? Here´s the link again: http://articles.latimes.com/...

Please look at it one more time and make a chart of all the ways it´s different from what you write with your crayons and have your Mommy type on here. I´ll give you a clue: Daniel Schorr didn´t pull what *he* wrote out of his hiney!
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     01/26/2011 05:41 PM     
  So cute  
 
I just love that baby-talk.

[Reaches out and gently squeezes little Benny on his cuddly cheeks.]
 
  by: CArnold     01/26/2011 06:15 PM     
  Imagine  
 
if Ben and CA are actually the same person.
 
  by: mrspike   01/27/2011 02:10 PM     
  @mrspike  
 
HAH that kind of reminds me of Enders Game how his bro and sis were creating online personalities to do exactly that.

Either that or maybe a case of split personalities. I wonder if people are always asking CArnold if he knows Tyler Durden?
 
  by: slavefortheman     01/27/2011 02:43 PM     
  @Lurker  
 
You are right about the attitude toward literacy.

I just finished the book, "Deer Hunting with Jesus," which does an excellent job of explaining the attitude towards "Fancy book learnin."

The politicians on the right know how to play this. The people they manipulate have yet to understand the manipulators are the same elites they dislike so much.

No better example than the college educated Sara Palin.
 
  by: Jim8   01/27/2011 06:01 PM     
  yep  
 
These ´puke-for-brains´ posters like CArnold have no idea. They are such simpletons.
"@Lurker
“Literacy is communist to these people.”
I knew it was only a matter of time before you came out of the closet and admitted to being one.
Great literacy skills, there, Troll Boy."

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever, nocon-loser boy. If you are going for an insult, at least consult your GOP liberal insult manual occasionally. Idiot!
 
  by: Lurker     01/27/2011 07:36 PM     
  @CA  
 
good job bastardizing my words. thats the last time I say anything even remotely supporting you
 
  by: syoware   01/27/2011 08:39 PM     
  @syo  
 
???
What are you talking about?
 
  by: CArnold     01/27/2011 09:24 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
Sorry for my late answer. I guess this might be of interest for all of you:

Blogs are allowed as sources on ShortNews if they

- have existed for at least 6 months

- provide valid publishing information somewhere on the site

- report objectively (esp. without expression of political opinions)

Ideally, there is also the source given the author of the blog uses for information.
 
  by: snik917     01/27/2011 09:50 PM     
  @snik  
 
Thanks for your response. That´s good to know.

Just for clarification, your first bullet-point says:

"have existed for at least 6 months"

A blog must be at *least* 6-mos old to use as a source? Or were you trying to say that it cannot be older than 6-mos? The latter would seem more appropriate.
 
  by: CArnold     01/27/2011 09:53 PM     
  @Lurker  
 
"That made absolutely no sense whatsoever..."
It´s not my fault you can´t read or understand plain English. I´d write it in the language you first learned, but I don´t know how to make hieroglyphics.

"If you are going for an insult, at least consult your GOP liberal insult manual occasionally."
If you find the truth insulting, that would explain why you don´t like hearing the truth.

BTW... You should apologize to those environmetalists that were protesting outside your home --- you know how they feel about "global warming".

Lurker had a birthday last week. His cake had so many candles, the Earth´s global temperature went up 3 degrees. They had to call the fire dept to put out his cake.
 
  by: CArnold     01/27/2011 10:29 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
The blog itself (= the website) must have been online - with regular updates - for at least 6 months. So it´s not allowed to use a blog website which was created 2 weeks ago.

As this is a news site, it´s of course required that the source you use (= the exact article from the blog) is up to date. Otherwise it wouldn´t be NEWs ;)
 
  by: snik917     01/27/2011 10:35 PM     
  LOL.  
 
Thanks for clearing that up.
 
  by: CArnold     01/27/2011 10:55 PM     
  did they understand the question?  
 
did they understand the question? most Americans don´t know the difference between Socialism and Fascism anyway. (as evidenced by so many comments on this site.)

@carnold the tea party doesn´t promote capitalism they promote fascism, I know they say its capitalism but they´re policies/ideals don´t fit the definitions of capitalism they fit the definitions of fascism. sometimes it gets referred to as ´radical capitalism´ but only buy those that don´t want to admit that it is the System used and support by the Nazis.

Also it shows how ignorant people are if they say they support capitalism since it doesn´t work and no economists say it does that´s why there is not a single example of pure capitalism as the economic system for a nation the closest thing to capitalism is the Black market and drug trade. the USA like Australia, the UK and most nations is a ´mixed-market´ economy.
 
  by: veya_victaous     01/28/2011 12:54 AM     
  Moonbat-alert: HIGH  
 
When I read this article, I had to sit there silently for a minute just to let it soak in. Is this what the left have been reduced to? To take two completely separate year-apart polls out of the sanctity of their original scope, and then cherry-pick figures in a hopeless attempt of one-upsmanship?

The separate WP-ABC and Gallup polls, taken nearly a year apart and with different samples, embody margins of error of 3.5% and 4% respectively. Yet to the original opinion article´s author, and local self-parody Ben_Reilly, this 1% higher figure unequivocally equates to "Americans View Socialism More Favorably Than the Tea Party".

Using the leftard´s own logic, the title of this article could´ve just as easily have read: "Americans View Socialism More Unfavorably Than the Tea Party: Polls", which would´ve held more weight, since not only is the margin bigger (52% for Tea Party vs 58% for socialism), but also almost outside the combined margins of error, which gives it more credibility than the inverse being demonstrated here could ever have. But of course, when you´re busy digging up year-old polls for selective data, you might overlook the other finds that accompany it. Like how more liberals disfavour socialism than conservatives favour; how moderates disfavour socialism 54-39%; how Tea Party tenets small business, free enterprise and entrepreneurs have a modest 95, 86 and 84% favourability rating respectively; and how Gallup reports "socialism had the lowest percentage positive rating and the highest negative rating of any term tested."

The article also uses the shaky phrase: "the Tea Party is about as popular among Americans as is the nation of Saudi Arabia." Well then, so is socialism, because if a 1% difference isn´t "about as popular", I don´t know what is. Using the exact same data, socialism is as unfavourable as Saudi Arabia. Kinda figures, both love Internet censorship, hate Western values and believe in outlawing criticism of government.

Take a shower Ben_Reilly, you reek of desperation.
 
  by: aussiemonarchist   01/31/2011 08:03 AM     
  Does anybody think for themselves anymore?  
 
Socialism is bad. America practices it everyday, Democrats and Republicans alike.
Is this not true?

The Tea-Partiers to me: appear to be angry but really I see that they are afraid. And fear makes a very dangerous person. I don´t like people that are scared: they usually have weapons and think violent thoughts in their imaginations trying to overcome their fears! They lash out in groups, never face you directly alone. Because they feel safe in the mob, they attack whomever the weaker. If the stranger is stronger, they must get bigger weapons to overcome the fear of the stranger.

I am not afraid: I say i want the option to the healthcare politicians have. An immigrant doesn´t scare me; neither do i think that he´s taking my job.

I believe that a business man who takes jobs overseas is evil. I believe that people who work for a living should be protected from such people. I think that politicians who gives my hard earned money to the poor, doesn´t have the right to. I want to do it myself. I also don´t want my money to be used to take jobs out of this country and given to people in china or india for pennies on the dollar. I don´t want businesses going overseas and leaving lawn cutting jobs for us to fight over.

Why can´t people see the truth? Because the lies benefit them or because they are too stupid?
 
  by: mexicanrevolution   02/01/2011 01:20 AM     
  CHILL OUT  
 
I seriously think:

YOU all need: A new hobby!!
Do you actually think your going to be able to accomplish something worthwhile here?

(slams door walks out)
 
  by: Klinger   02/04/2011 02:25 PM     
 
 
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