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02/01/2011 07:03 PM ID: 87753 Permalink   

Senators Seek to Strip Obama of Climate Powers

 

Republican Senators vowed Monday to strip President Barack Obama of the power to regulate greenhouse gases.

Senator John Barrasso stated "My bill will shrink Washington´s job-crushing agenda and grow America´s economy".

It is unlikely any such legislation will be passed with the President still holding veto power.

 
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  More Republican Theatrics  
 
So far it has been over two years of this from them.

They seem to be willing to do anything to avoid doing anything. From The Source "Last year was the hottest on record and one of the worst in decades for natural disasters, according to scientists."

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  by: ichi     02/01/2011 07:51 PM     
  depends if greenhouse gases...  
 
actually affect climate. If they don´t, or it´s to a much smaller degree than we´ve been lead to believe we shouldn´t restrict access to jobs in a time when 20% of the American people are jobless.

There´s not even any actual proof carbon emissions affect climate, there´s only correlation.

Correlation is not causation.

I´m reserving judgment for a time that there´s actual proof of causation. Until then I feel there´s not enough information to lean one way or the other (actually causation seems to be leaning more towards the earths natural cooling/warming cycles, but again before I say "this is what it is" i require actual proof)
 
  by: tizubythefizo   02/01/2011 09:26 PM     
  Er, well not really  
 
Greenhouse gases absorb heat. That heat goes somewhere. Say, the oceans. The oceans have a major major impact on world climate. There is no "if" in this matter, whether it´s snowing or you´re cold or whatever.
 
  by: H. W. Hutchins   02/01/2011 09:33 PM     
  @tizuby  
 
Could you please show me your source material stating that America is at 20% unemployment? That seems roughly twice the rate I´ve been seeing...
 
  by: Common_Tater   02/01/2011 10:54 PM     
  pfft  
 
its like that southpark episode where the protest by catapulting themselves into a wall, pointless all it shows is these senators don´t understand the system the President has veto powers.

how would this create job is the US? Chinese labour is still cheaper, and they can cut as much environmental protection as the US. More likely to create jobs if the US was a leader in clean industry and it fostered demand for green products.
 
  by: veya_victaous     02/01/2011 11:07 PM     
  Thank God  
 
Someone needs to take the wheel from this man/child.
This winter reminds me of when I was a child. This isn´t climate change, nor global warming. It is a weather pattern repeating itself every 50 years or so.

THOUGH that does not excuse us from polluting the plant because without a doubt and no study needed to know that is a fact. When you catch a fish and it´s glowing or your water eats through the glass, something is wrong.
Time to go "alternative" just not use BS studies and BS carbon credit crap to get there.
 
  by: hellblazer     02/02/2011 04:51 AM     
  @Common_Tater  
 
I found many links that give a 21 to 22 percent unemployment rate. Here is one. Do a search there are hundreds of site that are taking into consideration all the people who´s benefits ended not just those who are on it as many polls base their finding on. Cal alone is somewhere in the area of 18 percent.


http://www.nypost.com/...
 
  by: hellblazer     02/02/2011 04:59 AM     
  @ tizubythefizo  
 
They keyword is "pollution"...

...followed things like "poisoned rivers and lakes", "toxins", "respiratory diseases", "skin rashes", "accumulation of poisonous substances in the body"... .
 
  by: MouseJunkie     02/02/2011 11:43 AM     
  @ Hellraiser  
 
The unemployment rate is under 10%, even with the ´hopelessly unemployed´ factored in. The 18+% figures are including people who, in their own opinions, should be earning more money as well as people who are working 1 or more part-time jobs but want full-time employment.

My fiancée works 40+ hours a week but would be considered ´unemployed´ by those pollers because she makes around $10k/year less than the national average (she is looking for higher pay, but hardly unemployed). I would be considered unemployed by those sources too, since I am working a non-degreed position currently.

This is a case of confirmation biases run out of control. Some people are doomsdayers and want to see things worse than they are. Others are optimists and want to believe things are better than they are.

I guarantee that 1 in every 5 Americans are not currently sitting at home drawing unemployment or starving.
 
  by: Common_Tater   02/02/2011 05:38 PM     
  Would these be the same ones  
 
That proudly said they didn´t believe in evolution?
 
  by: Jim8   02/02/2011 06:30 PM     
  According To The CIA World Fact Book  
 
The unemployment rate in The U.S. was estimated at 9.7% n 2010.

From the Central Intelligence Agency :

https://www.cia.gov/...

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  by: ichi     02/02/2011 06:47 PM     
  @ common  
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/...

is one source.

You have to remember HOW we get the official rate.

We count the amount of people currently collecting unemployment. That´s our percentage. Not on unemployment pay == not counted in official numbers.

You got fired? Can´t collect UI? then you´re not counted in the numbers. Run out of UI, not counted in the numbers.

They figure only people able to collect unemployment are the ones that haven´t become depressed they stop looking so hard.

I was unemployed for over 2 years, ran out of unemployment a few times. There came a point where I ran out of places to apply at. I couldn´t look as hard as I once could for a job, and it was very discouraging (by this time I had also run out of UI benefits). And I´m a freakin army vet with an honorable discharge, you´d think I´d be first up for some of the jobs I applied for. That´s an indication of how bad it really is in some areas (detroit at the time)
 
  by: tizubythefizo   02/02/2011 08:45 PM     
  @Common_Tater  
 
Yours are not the numbers I am seeing. I wish it were. Throw some links out to show how you are coming up with those numbers. They are the ones I see who polls show only the ones collecting.
 
  by: hellblazer     02/03/2011 06:32 AM     
  or we can  
 
start looking into building a moon base to find a way to start mining helium 3 this way we can create jobs and have a clean energy source. will this ever happen? probably not in my lifetime why you say? cause its a GOOD idea
 
  by: Devil Duck     02/04/2011 08:33 PM     
 
 
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