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CIA Agent Caught Supplying Al-Qaeda with Nuclear and Bio Weapons

 

A black ops agent of the US´ feared undercover unit TF373 was captured by Indian security forces and was found to be in possession of documents proving that the CIA is supplying Al-Qaeda with nuclear and biological weapons materials.

The CIA is hoping to start an all out war in the Middle East and particularly with Pakistan in an attempt to re-establish global economic dominance over the area. One of the agents´ cell phones was traced to the Waziristan area near Afghanistan.

The agent was arrested after shooting two ISI agents sent to follow him. Russia says the situation in the area has become “grave” and that a war between the US and Pakistan is near. US global economic collapse could occur within months.

 
  Source: in.news.yahoo.com  
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  73 Comments
  
  Tyical!  
 
NT
 
  by: captainJane     02/23/2011 07:42 PM     
  Wow  
 
Real news made it on short news for a change.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     02/23/2011 07:45 PM     
  No doubt  
 
Good one Valk!
 
  by: caution2     02/23/2011 08:23 PM     
  well  
 
I think it´s safe to say, sh!t just hit the fan. Duck and cover boys
 
  by: theavenger8     02/23/2011 09:03 PM     
  Yeah  
 
That sounds about right.
 
  by: spiggy   02/23/2011 09:06 PM     
  Finally, a reason to hang out in my bomb shelter!  
 
Central Intelligence my ass.
 
  by: zirschky     02/23/2011 09:25 PM     
  hmmm  
 
I´m gonna reserve judgment on this for a while. I´m not saying it´s a setup yet but it sure smells funny.
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/23/2011 09:25 PM     
  4 days ago...  
 
"The New Yorker magazine reports this morning that the Obama administration has entered into direct secret talks with senior Taliban leaders in Afghanistan."
http://www.npr.org/...


http://www.powerlineblog.com/...
 
  by: CArnold     02/23/2011 09:30 PM     
  @ CArnold  
 
No we don´t miss him. 9/11 happened under his watch, he didn´t seem a bit alarmed when told and hung out reading "the Pet Goat" (I can understand that was an enthralling story and at his reading level), and so then he attacks Iraq for no reason.

But Obama is a secret Muslin soshlist so this makes sense, right?

Actually I blame the Masons. We´re all screwed.
 
  by: spiggy   02/23/2011 09:39 PM     
  @spig  
 
Per the source:

"Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents," according to a report."

Defend your mesiah all you want.
Bush would never have negotiated with terrorists, much less hand them nuclear and biological weapons.

Go ahead... let´s hear you defend that.

[ edited by CArnold ]
 
  by: CArnold     02/23/2011 10:00 PM     
  @Verm  
 
This was the first article I read about this two weeks ago…

http://www.counterpunch.org/...

vague and worrisome but no real meat to it yet.

Since then there have been dozens culminating with the one I just posted.

http://www.dawn.com/...

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/...

http://www.thenews.com.pk/...

http://www.counterpunch.org/...

http://news.antiwar.com/...

I could list 100 more easily. The ones I find most disturbing other than the bio and nuke post are these…

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/...

http://www.csmonitor.com/...

The people of Pakistan are threatening to overthrow the Government if Davis isn’t prosecuted.

An alternate reason for him being in Pakistan was given in this post.

http://www.dawn.com/...

but my guess is the US Government is just trying to cover up the truth.

Anyway you look at it, something big is happening and the CIA got caught with it´s hand in the cookie jar.
 
  by: Valkyrie123     02/23/2011 10:08 PM     
  @spig  
 
Nor would he have orchestrated an attack against his own country.

Again, per the source:

"The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan´s ISI stating that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis´s possession point to his, and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in order to re-establish the West´s hegemony over a Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added."
 
  by: CArnold     02/23/2011 10:08 PM     
  Well, if they´re Fox News employees  
   
  by: caution2     02/23/2011 10:09 PM     
  @c2  
 
Your source says that the group was unheard of, prior to that incident. Did the US have enough information to classify them as a terrorist organization? Are they classified as such? Wiki has very little on them and refers to them as a paramilitary group.
 
  by: CArnold     02/23/2011 10:28 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
First of all, Obama is not my Messiah. He was a good sight better decision than McCain and his sock puppet tart, and no one else but those 2 had a chance of winning so that´s what I went with. Anyway...

Yeah, I read the article, you don´t need to quote the whole damn thing.

"Bush would never have negotiated with terrorists"

Bullshit. His family has been in bed with the Bin-Laden´s for years. His daddy was in a meeting with them the day of the attacks and the only plane not grounded was getting the Bin-Laden´s out of there. Bush created the terrorists, well´ a hell of a lot of em anyway.

"Nor would he have orchestrated an attack against his own country."

I whole-heartedly disagree. Maybe it´s time for you to watch that Zeitgeist movie we talked about. The whole thing is relevant to this. Cheers.


 
  by: spiggy   02/23/2011 10:38 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
actually this sort of thing really shows how probable it is that 9/11 was a false flag operation.
It worked for a while but its effects are starting to wain, people want their rights back, another attack on the US and you will forget about your rights again.

Anyway I doubt either president had much control of the Clandestine CIA.
 
  by: veya_victaous     02/23/2011 10:39 PM     
  ^^^  
 
Plus it´s free to watch at the source. No pirating necessary. Take note of the section on false flag attacks and our monetary system.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/...

 
  by: spiggy   02/23/2011 10:40 PM     
  veya beat me to the punch  
 
 
  by: spiggy   02/23/2011 10:42 PM     
  Reality Check  
 
ISI are pro-taliban, the army is against talifucks. Musharaf is no longer in power and they have an islamist protaliban government in power. Of course ISI will talk shit to implicate the US. If anyone is giving nuclear and chemical shit to the taliban it would be the ISI.
 
  by: kmazzawi     02/23/2011 10:45 PM     
  Eh I doubt it  
 
Well, speaking from experience, the likelihood of US forces of any kind giving away fissile material or plans, or any legitimate information about the same, is very low. We don´t want *anyone* to have that stuff besides us. If anything it was bogus information, as we often give out to people under the guise of helping them do things we don´t like.

You can´t simultaneously blame things like Stuxnet on the US while also saying we´re GIVING away nuclear materials, lol.

I would be utterly shocked and amazed if anything that was ´handed over´ was legit.

 
  by: japh   02/23/2011 11:09 PM     
  Well,  
 
99% o Americans think 9/11 Truthers are idiots.

I disagree. I know it was an inside job. I have proof. This was the person that led the attacks:

http://i768.photobucket.com/...

[ edited by CArnold ]
 
  by: CArnold     02/23/2011 11:18 PM     
  Where is the original source?  
 
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[ edited by vhan ]
 
  by: vhan     02/24/2011 12:09 AM     
  @vhan  
 
Huh? Was that a stroke or auto-correct?
 
  by: zirschky     02/24/2011 12:31 AM     
  His posts  
 
have been reading like that all day. He even editted this one and it still makes no sense.

Reason #384 of why you shouldn´t post, text, or e-mail when you´re drunk.
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 12:36 AM     
  @zirschky  
 
Google the confusing part & enjoy


@CA using every chance to spread hate like always.
 
  by: vhan     02/24/2011 12:39 AM     
  @vhan  
 
gotchya. lulz
 
  by: zirschky     02/24/2011 12:53 AM     
  Anyone know?  
 
Can fissile material be tracked from a satellite?
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/24/2011 01:55 AM     
  Nothing new  
 
Look into P2OG

And LOL at the claim that Bush would never negotiate. His admin transferred 43 million dollars to the Taliban pre-9/11:
http://edition.cnn.com/...

Revealed: Bush and Blair discussed using American Spyplane in UN colours to lure Saddam into war.
http://www.channel4.com/...

US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/...

WikiLeaks: British government promised to ´protect US interests´ at Chilcot inquiry
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...
"British officials, while pretending to conduct a sweeping investigation into the Iraq War, were privately pledging to protect Bush officials from embarrassing disclosures." Gleen Greenwald

From documentary series power of nightmares, part 3 @ about 21 minutes in.
Rumsfeld: Oh yeah, this is serious business. And there´s not one of those, there are many those.
http://img114.imageshack.us/...
James Bond type of hideouts in Afghanistan according to Rumsfeld... A lot about the wars are pure fiction.

And yeah, we know where they are..

Middle-east dominance:
http://www.historycommons.org/...

Bolton wanted Iran to kick out Arms Inspectors, he tells AIPAC
"they have not done anything more dramatic, such as withdrawing from the nonproliferation treaty, or throwing out inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency, which I actually hoped they would do ? that that kind of reaction would produce a counter-reaction that actually would be more beneficial to us."
http://www.opednews.com/...

Fiction fiction fiction..

"We´re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you´re studying that reality--j­udiciously­, as you will--we´l­l act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that´s how things will sort out. We´re history´s actors...a­nd you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
 
  by: Kaleid   02/24/2011 02:22 AM     
  despicable  
 
wake up america! the cia is just as evil as the nazi ss. it´s time to over power them and throw them off this planet
 
  by: Devil Duck     02/24/2011 04:32 AM     
  hoax  
 
This story originated from known BSer "Sorcha Faal".
 
  by: o9k   02/24/2011 05:02 AM     
  @o9k  
 
Never heard of Sorcha Faal before now so I googled him/her. What on earth is the point in something like that? At least when the National Enquirer does it they´re doing it for profit.
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/24/2011 05:21 AM     
  @vhan  
 
You’ve got to be kidding me. I’ve been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It’s just common sense.
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     02/24/2011 05:23 AM     
  @Ben  
 
My thoughts exactly.
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/24/2011 05:26 AM     
  @everybody  
 
I wish people would stop acting like children and join together. Both sides are getting "fisted" by the so called elite

divide and conquer...thats in the "Art of War" somewhere
 
  by: t-bagger   02/24/2011 05:27 AM     
  @o9k  
 
Sorcha Faal via the European Union Times (same source that reported in ´09 that Obama was readying 1M U.S. troops for civil war) via Yahoo News India? If so, we can all stop frothing at the mouth and start feeling gullible ...
 
  by: Ben_Reilly     02/24/2011 05:35 AM     
  @VermiciousG  
 
It´s said to be a pseudonym of David Booth. Perhaps to sell more books or generate more interest. They "work together" quite a bit.

Usually in the articles he/she has written in the past there is shreds of truth wrapped in piles of BS. Disinformation, but I´m not sure of the motive.

Taken from her site where this story originated:


"Some events depicted in certain articles on this website are fictitious and any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental. Some other articles may be based on actual events but which in certain cases incidents, characters and timelines have been changed for dramatic purposes. Certain characters may be composites, or entirely fictitious."
 
  by: o9k   02/24/2011 05:36 AM     
  @o9k  
 
I knew of that site but didn´t realize how they´d been getting their baloney picked up by news outlets. At least they force us to question more of what we read, that can never be a bad thing, you never know what else you´ll learn in doing so.

Here´s that EUTimes link using Faal as a source http://www.eutimes.net/... Edit: As was probably the (successful) intention, this is distracting from a rather interesting development with Davis and the rift quickly widening between the US and Pakistan.

[ edited by caution2 ]
 
  by: caution2     02/24/2011 08:35 AM     
  Most secretive government  
 
ever. It helps us not.
 
  by: H. W. Hutchins   02/24/2011 09:26 AM     
  @CArnold  
 
>> Bush would never have negotiated with terrorists, much less hand them nuclear and biological weapons. Nor would he have orchestrated an attack against his own country.

Well, he orchestrated two unnecessary wars (one being an illegal war of aggression - the same type Hitler started against Poland), fixed his policy around getting those wars started no matter what, caused the death of more innocent iraqis in 5 years than Hussein did in 30, lied deliberately, specifically ordered torture, broke the UN Charta, broke the Geneva Conventions, created the biggest propaganda machinery the world has ever seen (27.000 employees. Goebbels had only 2000 people back when), and introduced the use of concentration camps as well as torture and illegal deportations as regular policy, broke the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and got the world to hate America even more.

If other leaders had done only one of these things, the US would take them out immediately - but if the US regime does worse things than even the most evil dictators it´s all peachy. Great christian moral made in USA.

Oh, by the way, the US State Department issued a report on 2005 proving that these policies of Bush caused global terrorism to quadruple.

So, Obama might negotiate with "terrorists" - but Bush created them. And he gave them money - before 9/11 he authorized the transfer of 245 million USD to the Taliban.

By the way, the Taliban are not terrorists. They are fundamental, religious radicals who were installed in power by the US government, equipped with money (like the above mentioned Bush money) as well as weapons. Without the US, the Taliban would have never ever been able to dominate so many people let alone oppress a whole country. Only the US made that happen - and therefore by all existing laws, the US is at least partially responsible for every single crime the Taliban committed.



[ edited by scrut999 ]
 
  by: scrut999   02/24/2011 11:25 AM     
  @CArnold  
 
>99% o Americans think 9/11 Truthers are idiots.

99% of Americans who believe in the official 9/11 story are idiots
 
  by: scrut999   02/24/2011 11:35 AM     
  just ignore  
 
cartard´s posts, he never makes any sense and his brain is so inferior to everyone else´s that he´ll never make any sense.

Should´ve been aborted? Yes.



In other news, this was written by "Sorcha Faal" on the 11th. Hoax until proven otherwise, imo.
 
  by: Dekar   02/24/2011 12:06 PM     
  @  
 
@Dekar
Sorry, I’m not fluent in idiot. Go talk to Lurker.

@scrut
You always address me in these threads with a laundry list of items intended to rebut my statements. Yet, not once (not a single time) have you ever included links or anything remotely resembling corroborative evidence to lend any sort of credence to the misinformation you lean on in your arguments.

I see that you’ve taken to kaleid’s links. That’s not a smart thing to do. If you read his statements and compare them to the link he provided, you can see that he’s grossly bending the truth in his posts… which I’ll address shortly.

I you expect someone to have a serious discussion with you, you need to drop the fiction and stick with the facts. As is, your arguments are little morsels of fiction begging to be torn apart. Revise your statements and come back.
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 03:22 PM     
  @Kaleid  
 
Fabricate much?

His admin transferred 43 million dollars to the Taliban pre-9/11
Per your own source:

Warning that Afghanistan is "on the verge of a widespread famine," Secretary of State Colin Powell Thursday announced a $43 million package in humanitarian assistance for the Afghan people.
...
Powell said the U.S. aid is administered by the United Nations and non-governmental organizations, and bypasses the Taliban, "who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it."

You should read your own links. You might learn something and it may save you the embarrassment of having to eat own your words.


Bush and Blair discussed using American Spyplane in UN colours to lure Saddam into war.
In the US, we have a show called Bait Car. Police equip cars with hidden cameras and a remote shut-down and then park these cars in crime-infested areas with the keys in the ignition& and then they wait. If a crook steals the car, they follow the perp until theyre in a safe area to remotely shut down the car and arrest the thief.
Is it the polices fault that the thief stole the car? Nope. The thief could have left it alone (just as he/she should have) and there wouldnt have been a problem.
Same thing applies, here. If they had flown the plane (which was never done, BTW) without incident, then there would be no problems. However, if Saddams forces had fired on it without provocation, he would have put himself in a bad situation.
Again, this was never done. It was discussed. Big difference.


US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower
Sucker. This hoax story was debunked 6 years ago.
The story originated from the Iranian Mehr News Agency. If you go to Google News, set it to look for news between 2000-2009 and type in Nelda Rogers wmds, this is what you get&
http://www.google.com/... Rogers wmds&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1&cad=b

As much as the Libs and MSM would like for this to be true, its not. If it were, you would have seen this all over CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, etc.
Alas, none of the networks carry that story because they found out that nobody by the name of Nelda Rogers ever worked for the Pentagon.

Trying to win an argument by using lies and fiction is an act of desperation, kaleid. You should know better than to try to pull that on me. And if you didnt know better, you do now.

Next!

[ edited by CArnold ]
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 04:06 PM     
  @Kaleid (easy to read version)  
 
That Edit button needs some work. It made a disaster out of my last post and screwed up my links. Let´s try that again...

Fabricate much?

“His admin transferred 43 million dollars to the Taliban pre-9/11”
Per your own source:

“Warning that Afghanistan is "on the verge of a widespread famine," Secretary of State Colin Powell Thursday announced a $43 million package in humanitarian assistance for the Afghan people.
...
Powell said the U.S. aid is administered by the United Nations and non-governmental organizations, and bypasses the Taliban, "who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it."”

You should read your own links. You might learn something and it may save you the embarrassment of having to eat own your words.


“Bush and Blair discussed using American Spyplane in UN colours to lure Saddam into war.”
In the US, we have a show called “Bait Car”. Police equip cars with hidden cameras and a remote shut-down and then park these cars in crime-infested areas with the keys in the ignition… and then they wait. If a crook steals the car, they follow the perp until they’re in a safe area to remotely shut down the car and arrest the thief.
Is it the police’s fault that the thief stole the car? Nope. The thief could have left it alone (just as he/she should have) and there wouldn’t have been a problem.
Same thing applies, here. If they had flown the plane (which was never done, BTW) without incident, then there would be no problems. However, if Saddam’s forces had fired on it without provocation, he would have put himself in a bad situation.
Again, this was never done. It was discussed. Big difference.


“US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower”
Sucker. This hoax story was debunked 6 years ago.
The story originated from the Iranian Mehr News Agency. If you go to Google News, set it to look for news between 2000-2009 and type in “Nelda Rogers wmds”, this is what you get…
http://www.google.com/...

As much as the Libs and MSM would like for this to be true, its not. If it were, you would have seen this all over CNN, MSNBC, PBS, CBS, etc.
Alas, none of the networks carry that story because they found out that nobody by the name of “Nelda Rogers” ever worked for the Pentagon.

Trying to win an argument by using lies and fiction is an act of desperation, kaleid. You should know better than to try to pull that on me. And if you didn’t know better, you do now.

Next!
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 04:10 PM     
  carnold  
 
"Trying to win an argument by using lies and fiction is an act of desperation, kaleid. You should know better than to try to pull that on me. And if you didn’t know better, you do now."

Yes, since you now seen to have become an "expert" in bending the truth in favor of right wing causes (which ironically is about the same thing, especially when involving the MIC).

I KNOW the plane was not shut down, but it shows just what kind of ideas are spread around to get the wars going (What if 45 minuter + mushroom cloud claims etc were not enough?). It shows their mentality. The neocons are after all one of the main benefactors of 9/11 and have made on many occasions talked about how the people should be reminded of the horrors of 9/11, and in case I haven´t missed any then the latest was from Bolton who joked about a nuke going of in Chicago.
Crazy imperialists (I kind of think Bush was fooled into it all..distancing himself more and more from Cheney on his second term).

These people are your protectors? BS, the death of you and some other compatriots is extremely convenient.

Did you notice when the downing street memos came? How much did it gain notice in the US MSM? Compare that to say British media.

Did you notice that during the run up to the Iraq war only very few actually voiced concern about all the bogus claims we heard?

Another Runaway General: Army Deploys Psy-Ops on U.S. Senators
http://www.rollingstone.com/...

We also know that Bush has paid retired generals to spoit war propaganda in media.

And through wikileaks we know that the CIA is involved in spreading propaganda in Europe:
http://www.politics.ie/...

We also know through wikileaks that USA has been involved in getting the Swedish government to set in place surveillance systems as well as running errands for media companies who have pushed for the piratebay trial.

Of course you Americans then are also targeted, to say that you aren´t is naive.

And look up MEK.

We know they worked at office of special plans to bend the truth in their favor. And we know that there are many who want to do the same thing with Iran. Bush for instance lied at least 2 years about the so called threat from Iran even though the NIE reports said that there were no WMD programs. He was caught with his pants down.

I´ll look into the planting of WMDs later...

Btw, when it comes to terrorism it certainly isn´t a good idea to use the military all too much:
http://www.rand.org/...

War is big business, so expect more lies, from both parties (but it is worse with the republicans).

Or btw, how about that BS that they attacked us for our freedom?
 
  by: Kaleid   02/24/2011 04:31 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
>>Yet, not once (not a single time) have you ever included links or anything remotely resembling corroborative evidence to lend any sort of credence to the misinformation you lean on in your arguments.

CArnold, that is entirely wrong. In countless threads I have provided links to sources such as the United Nations, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, European Union, US State Department to name a few.

You were the one who never - not even once - provided anything more than the recapitulation of baseless rightwing propaganda in response. You never ever provided one single piece of fact or backup for your claims. Never.

In other threads you did post links - almost always leading to extremely controversial biased "sources" that have absolutely no credibility such as FoxNews.

I however rely on information in sources such as the ones I listed above. If you think that reports by e.g. the United Nations or Amnesty International lack "any sort of credence to the misinformation you lean on", then I would like you to let me know which sources I should lean on - if not on internationally relevant bodies with a high reputation.
 
  by: scrut999   02/24/2011 04:42 PM     
  @  
 
@kaleid
Good luck with that.

@scrut
Fine. Post links to the statments you made in this thread. Let´s see how well you do.
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 05:02 PM     
  Anyone...  
 
Gunna take this "news" down?
 
  by: Garbasche   02/24/2011 05:21 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
no prob - just a tiny, tiny selection (I added a few news links that summarize events better than the original reports that are long and dry)

Well, he orchestrated two unnecessary wars (one being an illegal war of aggression - the same type Hitler started against Poland),
Doswald-Beck (Secretary International Commission of Jurists), MArch 18, 2003
Howard Friel and Richard Falk, “The Record of the Paper: How the New York Times Misreports Foreign Policy,” Chapter I, Without Law of Facts, The United States Invades Iraq,” pages 15-17
Annan, Kofi in September 2004
http://www.un.org/...
http://www.germanlawjournal.com/...


fixed his policy around getting those wars started no matter what,
Downing Street Memo (e.g. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/...
Cohen, R, Washington Post in March 2006


lied deliberately,
Tenet, George J. (director CIA), Senate hearing, September 2002
IAEA report, February 2003
El Baradei, M (IAEA), Speech at the United Nations, March 2003
Bush, G.W., in a speech in September 2003 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/...
Department of Enery http://www.webexhibits.org/...
US 9/11 commission report (rebuking Bushs claims of relationships between Hussein and Al Quaeda)
http://www.csmonitor.com/...
http://www.cnn.com/...
http://www.harpers.org/...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/...
Bush, G.W., in September 2004 http://www.guardian.co.uk/...


specifically ordered torture,
Bush, G.W., Decision Points
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...
Rice, Condoleeza
plus hundreds of documents released under the FOIA at the ACLU
http://www.amnesty.org/...


broke the UN Charta,
UN Charta (http://www.un.org/...
John Negroponte (US Embassador to the UN) in UN Security Council meeting 4644, November 2002
Greenstock, Sir Jeremy (UK Permanent Representative KCMG), Meeting of the UNSC, November 2002
National Lawyers´ Guild, 2007 Amendments and Resolutions, "Resolution on Impeachment of Bush and Cheney
International Commission of Jurists on several occasions


broke the Geneva Conventions,
Several federal judges in 2004
several reports and documents at Amnesty International, International Red Cross, Human Rights Watch - I think you can find them yourself.


created the biggest propaganda machinery the world has ever seen (27.000 employees. Goebbels had only 2000 people back when),
US House of representatives, e.g. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...
Rep. Henry A. Waxman on Bush Administration; concrete examples of disinformation. http://www.house.gov/...
Erika Check: "Bush accused of power abuse over science", Nature (August 2003):424:14, 715.
Editorial: "No way to run a superpower", Nature (August 2003):424:21, 861.
Geoff Brumfiel: "Scientists slam Bush record", Nature, 427, 663, 19 February 2004
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...


broke the nuclear non-proliferation treaty,
http://www.economist.com/...
http://rawstory.com/...


and got the world to hate America even more.
source: ask any non-american you meet and count the votes pro/anti
 
  by: scrut999   02/24/2011 06:01 PM     
  @CArnold  
 
So I have provided a few links and sources.

Now it´s up to you to provide credible links and sources that prove that "my" sources are dead wrong.

Let´s see how well you do.

[ edited by scrut999 ]
 
  by: scrut999   02/24/2011 06:04 PM     
  @scrut999  
 
He won´t read them. He never does. He just dismisses everything that isn´t according to CArnold.
 
  by: Lurker     02/24/2011 06:20 PM     
  @CA  
 
http://www.infowars.com/...

90% of Americans think that government is lying about 9/11. CNN deleted this old poll from their website, but info wars archived it.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     02/24/2011 09:25 PM     
  Online polls  
 
are not scientific.
 
  by: Kaleid   02/24/2011 09:27 PM     
  @Kaleid  
 
I don´t know anyone under 30 who doesn´t think the 9/11 official story is bogus, and most of those people even believe its an inside job by U.S. intelligence. I have seen scientific polls saying that about 61% disbelieve the official story, and around 25% think that it was an inside job. I just don´t have the links to those off the top of my head.
 
  by: Tetsuru Uzuki     02/24/2011 09:38 PM     
  See...  
 
The worst part about cartard is that none of his posts are actually "opinions" (or rather, HIS opinions) but instead are things that he has heard through the grapevine, be it Faux News, coworkers, family, and friends and he just regurgitates it to no end without actually verifying ANYTHING.

I mean... He actually "thinks" Faux News is NEWS. Lol!

The guy "thinks" Obama´s a muslim (hell, he "thinks" this matters in the first place!)

He "thinks" Glen Beck is intelligent.

He "thinks" Bill O´Reilly is intelligent.

He "thinks" Rush Limbaugh is intelligent.

Cartard is a nutcase, there´s no speaking reason with him because there IS no reason in his head. He is a brainwashed zombie tool for the right-wing political machine. I wouldn´t doubt that cartard is a pseudonym for the right-wing propaganda machine, and that he´s one of those 27,000 employees our friend scrut was so kind as to link.

Hell, I´m completely convinced that due to his views it MUST be so.



Why not just ban him? His views contribute nothing, his news submitted is propaganda and he constantly uses Faux News (a COMPLETELY UNTRUSTWORTHY NEWS SOURCE) as his source.

He is a bot, a troll, and a tool used by the right-wing propaganda machine.

Ban him, even if it means having to ban me due to my own views being extreme.

Consider it the one constructive contribution I gave to SN.
 
  by: dekar   02/24/2011 09:55 PM     
  ^--- So ghey  
 
Lurker, control your son.
 
  by: CArnold     02/24/2011 10:15 PM     
  I think the docs will hit WikiLeaks soon...  
 
.. and then we´ll wait for Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron and Zapatero to backpeddle.

I haven´t seen any mainstream/institutional news outlets promote this yet? Are they trying to bury it under news from Libya, budget cuts and earthquakes?

You have to dig deep into the international sections on most sites. If it was Russia or NK or China or someone outside the security council we´d have a serialized 2 page spread, Economist articl and syndicated TV series on every angle by now; terrorism, economy and religious.

 
  by: redstain   02/25/2011 01:13 AM     
  @Redstain  
 
Yes, you guessed it, good job. Now read the comments above made by o9k.
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/25/2011 01:37 AM     
  @all  
 
most of the media is now being controlled in somewhat way by interested parties (cia, etc), and its breeding fear like crazy, exactly putting people pins and needles just like after 911, and everybody went belly-up and gave up their rights. Well being on pins and needles someone will eventually over re-act when something happens, then sh*t spread like wild fire, the kindling is set, and everybody is jumping like fish .. dont be taking the bait so quickly ;)
 
  by: Key2000     02/25/2011 06:46 AM     
  Covered in ´Western´ Mainstream Press  
 
Raymond Davis
http://topics.cnn.com/...

Raymond Davis incident: What sort of diplomat carries a loaded gun?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

Raymond Davis, CIA Contractor, Appears Defiant Before Pakistani Judge
http://abcnews.go.com/...


Raymond Davis, Held in Pakistan Shootings, Worked With C.I.A.
http://www.nytimes.com/...
 
  by: redstain   02/25/2011 06:33 PM     
  And oh  
 
another flashback.

Let us not forget those two British SAS soldiers dressed as arabs planting bombs:
http://www.rawstory.com/...
 
  by: Kaleid   02/25/2011 08:10 PM     
  @Redstain  
 
Sorry, that did seem trite. But, diplomat, CIA or CIA contractor... Whatever he is the fissile material/nuke plans are B.S..
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/26/2011 01:39 AM     
  Head I win, Tails you lose. eh?  
 
So let me get the rules of this straight eh?

Not CIA/Merc(contractor)/Dimplomat.
===================================
[LOSE]


Is CIA
======
Documents are not in his possession. [LOSE]


Is naked CIA, covered in blood, knee-deep in docs, sheep shish-kebabed on his johnson.
=====================================================================================
It was a CIA double-cross/sting/ruse.
[LOSE]

Was NK
=======
[WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN]
 
  by: redstain   02/26/2011 03:08 PM     
  @redstain  
 
I´m just saying that of course we´ve got CIA everywhere in every country on earth. Undercover, pretending to be diplomats, cigar salesmen, plumbers, civil engineers... Collecting information. That´s kind of what they do.

This guy committed murder which is clearly outside the CIA´s charter and he gets what he´s got coming. If he did it under orders then his bosses need to be flushed out as well.

But, the idea that he was giving away nuke plans and plutonium to terrorists would really, if true, would really seem more like treason than a secret plot to start a pan middle east war.
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/26/2011 06:25 PM     
  Depends on the goal  
 
they won´t be able to do anything useful with the information anyway but if the receives press coverage that they have this type of information then the war-machinery can march on, it becomes jusfitied.
 
  by: Kaleid   02/26/2011 06:29 PM     
  have you forgot so soon  
 
have you forgot so soon all the tons of cocaine that the cia was caught in .. in the 80s and 90s .. hahahah :)

no one was punished except maybe the dude who blew the whistle ;)
 
  by: key2000     02/26/2011 07:30 PM     
  It´s like I always thought.  
 
USA is the evilist most dangerous nation on the planet. Period!

Just mind you own damn business, run your own country to your twisted ways and stop fucking up the world for everyone else.

You don´t see Iceland poking their noses into other countries and having military bases everywhere.
 
  by: MalcolmB   02/26/2011 11:18 PM     
  @VermG: this isn´t a ´rotten apple  
 
The CIA isn´t getting off with the RottenApple-card and ´look at the other justifiable evil we do´-chaff.

We weren´t born yesterday, we know they murder, sell drugs, in the name of the governement. But we´re talking about SELLING nuclear-fissable material and BioWeapons. This is on a par with setting charges under WTC;writing the Tonkin report; selling tickets to the Lusitania cruise. What do you do when a Taxpayer funded organization commits Treason?

Do I hear you say; it was a RottenApple? Let´s just see whose names are on the Docs in Wikileaks shall we?
 
  by: redstain   02/27/2011 12:38 PM     
  Hey CJ Long Time  
 
The worst thing about it is this is happening all over the world, The Muslim Frat are Infiltrating at a rate that you just cannot Imagine...Give it another 5-6 Years Tops and the Muslim Brotherhood will have The Technology through the Middle east as these ex/current Agents decide to trade it all for Cash. The Jihad Muslims will do anything to get their hands on Nuclear and Bio weapons as the most sought after weapons of mass destruction and to keep the terror threat at a higher and higher level.
The one thing that i Guarantee is that we will now start to see Crude and Nasty weapons coming out of Iran and north Korea for sale to the Bad asses like Al-qaeda and the Taliban, and don´t forget that the broken up USSR have thousands of these weapons scattered throughout the disassembled Country and even the disassembled silos that the weapons are stored in still have the Nuclear warheads attached to the rockets, the only thing that stops them Currently from being fired is that Countries like the US,UK,European states and the rest of the world is they don´t have the firing codes and target codes,Otherwise they would have already started world war 3 and Believe me it is a hell of a lot closer than anyone thinks.
While the UN is Stuffing around with sanctions and Distribution of wealth from Countries that have or are starting to impose Carbon Emission Taxes (that i Believe to be on absolutely un-proved and Un founded Science) the 2 previously mentioned Countries asshole Bastards are recruiting and training children aged 7-12 years of age to detonate the Dirty Bombs. So keep your eyes peeled, No doubt they will be coming to a Neighborhood near you soon. Mark My Words and that is to everybody in the so called free world
 
  by: rangi   02/27/2011 01:20 PM     
  Ah look  
 
Fox news entered into the discussion.
 
  by: Kaleid   02/27/2011 01:32 PM     
  OKAY  
 
I´m out
 
  by: VermiciousG     02/27/2011 05:27 PM     
  dep-loe-metik ee-mew-nitty  
 
Under-wraps? More like someone´s trying to smother it with a pillow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/...
It´s got links to CCTV footages.
Obama got involved recently, suggesting he be treated as a diplomat, then embarassingly, the CIA´s admitted it was one of their own.

- gunplay,
- presidents
- CIA threatening-overtures
- Mercenary Companies named and shamed
- Russian Secret Service
- nuclear materials
- bio weapons
- dep-loe-metik ee-mew-nitty
It´s got the lot.

F***** James Bond. This is more explosive.
 
  by: redstain   02/28/2011 01:13 AM     
  @Valk  
 
The link you posted (http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/... had an interesting perspective on this story, but kept thinking about if the author would be right about all hell breaking loose there if Davis was freed. I guess we get to find out.

Hillary Clinton says no money changed hands to make that happen.

Yeah. Right!

http://www.foxnews.com/...
 
  by: caution2     03/16/2011 11:38 PM     
 
 
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